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“Married Men – Post Here If You Hate Your Life”
Post by happyghost


Some of you may recall a few months back, either on the now-defunct DGM2 board or here, perhaps both, a plea was made for anyone who had archived the classic, huge thread from years ago that was entitled “Married Men – Post Here If You Hate Your Life”, from a forum on the old website f*** Apparently the thread is now “lost”, and seems to exist nowhere on the web anymore.

You may also recall that I said, at the time, that I had spent many hours reading portions of this thread out of the Google cache of it (the thread was gone from the website itself). That Google cache is now long gone, as well. I may have mentioned that, although at the time I read it the Google cache was missing a good amount of the enormous number of pages in the thread, I had read through all the available pages and had cut and pasted the best posts into a text file as I went. This eliminated all the crappy posts, and all the pointless bickering (some feminists really got into attack mode), and preserved only the BEST posts for posterity.

You may also recall that I said that I had this text file somewhere, in some old backups, but that I hadn’t located it.

Well, I just located it!

Below is that text file. As I said, all the “noise” was not included, leaving only the good stuff. In addition, whenever people made worthwhile replies to earlier posts, I appended those replies to the end of the post to which they referred, with a header like “REPLY”, “REPLY 2”, etc. separating the original post from the reply/replies. All posts (with their replies included) are separated from each other by a short line of dashes (“—————–“).

I am going to paste the entire text file that I compiled in a series of posts below this one.

Hopefully this thread can be “stickied”, or permanently archived somewhere, for the good of all young men visiting this site who are considering marriage.

Here we go!

Re: “Married Men – Post Here If You Hate Your Life
Post by happyghost on Yesterday at 4:19pm

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Best Comments from an Internet Discussion Thread Entitled:
“Married Men, Post Here If You Hate Your Life”
Original source: forum
This best-of document compiled: October 2006.


I think most women can’t help trying to control their husbands – the irony is that they are
increasingly miserable and insecure if they succeed. Deep down they don’t like being bitches,
start despising their husband’s weakness and feel insecure because it’s like they are their
husband’s mother while he is a child, leaving them the only adult in the house.
IMO women’s attempts to control their husbands are an instinctively motivated test of his
strength and character. Deep down they want the man to rise to their challenge, not give in.
Giving in to them all the time brings out their worst while standing up to them in a
fair-handed way brings out their best, IMO. Their negative tendencies are reined in instead
of encouraged.
They can’t help it. Women are naturally attracted to, and attach to, dominant men. So be
Modern marriage is nothing but relationship insurance for women. When they get married, they
can have their kids which further keep you in check.
the only chance a man has to be happy with his wife is if he does stand up to her. Over time
the nagging, moods, etc greatly lessen if you make sure those tactics are the one sure way
she never gets her way.
Most of us don’t “talk things out before” because things are ideal. You have a lot of sex,
and you do what we want. So what’s to talk about?
We were young and stupid, and didn’t realize the wedding cake was laced with Dr. Jekyll’s
secret formula.
[Marriage is] like serving time in prison with a big fat cellmate who DOESN’T want to have
sex with you.
let me be more to the point: there are plenty of men that are married, live like they did
when they were single, and still get head when they want…
The difference between us and your type: we control our wives, yours control you…
you = momma’s boy…
I know plenty of married guys who let their wives walk all over them. I also know married
guys who call the shots in almost everything in their marriage. I know a few guys who have a
very even and fair relationship with their wives.
With that said, I have no sympathy for the guys who let their wives walk all over them. They
let it happen and then bitch and moan about it like the pussies they are.
The guys who call the shots are the most confident men I know. Their wives like them being in
control and respect them for it. These guys will bitch and moan about stuff sometimes, but
it’s not too often
You just read my mind. My marriage is destroying me. I don’t know if I can ever regain my
happiness. Thinking back on my life the other day, I realized that I was actually a happy
person once. I loved life, I enjoyed other people’s company, I had hopes and dreams. It
almost startled me to realize that was me instead of another person I was jealous of.
So just start being that old you. She was attracted to that old you.
The bottom line is this: Women don’t know what the fuck they really want.
Guys are so fucking simple. We know EXACTLY what we want: Sex or blow jobs about 3 or 4 times
a week, a good pizza or burger every now and then, and about one day a week that we can go do
stuff that we like, whether it’s poker or golf or what have you. How hard is that to
Women, on the other hand, have NO CLUE what they want. They’ve been told they can have it
all, that they need to be this or that, that they need to do this or that. I don’t think may
of them honestly know what it is they want. They only know what it is they don’t have.
you hit it on the head. they don’t know, but they sure feel like whatever it is, it’s not
enough, life sucks, and they need to take their unhappiness out on you.
Marriage is for women, not men.
All married men who are sober are miserable to one degree or another. Successful marriages
are made by the man convincing himself he’s not as unhappy as he knows he is.
Question: Why do men die before their wives?
Answer: Because they want to.
Face it, women are selfish.
All the wedding and receptions I see know are really just a celebration by the woman for the
glorification of herself.
What guy would go spend $20 grand or more on a wedding. Fuck, we’d buy a monster big screen
TV and power tools for the basement.
American woman are so selfish they really don’t give a fuck about the man. To them its all
about me me me and you better work harder to give it to them.
Thank God I’m not married, but I look at friends who are and just go “You poor bastard”.
I know 2 guys. Both make good money, are good looking, and great dads. Their wives are
depressed, putting on weight, don’t work outside the home, want him to take the kids or start
working as soon as he walks in the door. One goes out and gets massages and her nails done,
also want a cleaning lady. Like WTF, is this some sort of full time vacation for her? Man,
the dudes are like perfect husbands and they treat them like dirt.
I feel sorry for you bastards. I know, it hurts I don’t have kids, but that can be a fantasy
gone bad too these days. Just go to any mall.
For 19 years I’ve been tracking married couples where I work, people I socialize with, etc.
85% or so – the women have become fat sexless hogs and the men are miserable.
If you have one of the 15%, be thankful on a daily basis.
I’ve been fucking other women for 13 years. I warned her she was not cutting me off, but
losing her place in line.
choose your mistresses very carefully and you will find there is plenty of sweet pussy out
there still eager to fuck you.
My wife was a complete off the wall fuck machine before we got married. Fun, energetic,
Now? Overweight, tired all the time, and forget a goddamn blowjob.
Counting down the days…oh yes indeed.
Early in my marriage I found that I got the best behavior from my wife immediately after a
fight in which I raised my voice and told her with authority that her behavior was not
She would start an argument usually by refusing to do something which we had previously
agreed was her responsibility, or sometimes by speaking to me inappropriately. At first, I
would try to address the subject reasonably, explaining the reasons why whatever she did was
Eventually, I figured out that she knew damn well whatever she did to start the fight was
wrong. She was just waiting for me to call her on it. A sort of test.
We get along much better now. I think part of the problem is that I was raised without a dad,
and my mom was a very strong figure who always told me that marriage was an equal
partnership, etc. I’ve found this to be true in a way, but not the way I thought.
Marriage is definitely a partnership, but both partners must acknowledge that gender roles
are absolutely necessary to make it work. You can’t have a marriage of two neuters, the
dynamic just doesn’t lend itself to a long-term happy couple. There has to be a man, and a
They eat while the man is at work. They’re like the Terminator going after food instead
of Sarah Conner. They never stop. They can’t be reasoned with!
in a similar thread a while back, some guy describes his obese, couch potato wife as “a piece
of furniture that talks and never shuts up”
This thread is great, I am not done with it yet – we are cleaning house from top to bottom –
but, I have to say, all the advice about standing up to your wife, even if you are wrong – is
100% wisdom.
However, if it turns out that you were wrong, say you are sorry.
That being said, women want you to stand up to them.
A comedian did a bit once about men and women.
Men are like dogs: You know EXACTLY what they like, what they want, and how they will react
to whatever you do.
Women are like cats: There is no fucking way to tell what they want, and if you do one thing
one day, there is no guarantee that they will react the same way the next time you do it.
I got lucky…but I cannot guarantee the 26y/o guys I work with that they will have the same
results. Most seem to be considering pampered bitches as wives. This is not good. I can’t
stand spending 5 minutes in a room with these women. They are very materialistic and
Most of my 40-ish buddies are very unhappy or divorced outright. The entire situation is
rather bleak.
I consider myself lucky. When I got married, I had no idea of what I was getting into. You
think you know… but NO ONE can predict 10..20 years into the future. It is a total crapshoot.
I got lucky. I admit that freely.
Handle your business and be calm and rational. Do not allow yourself to get fucked over to
avoid confrontation. If you can stay calm enough about disagreements to be a little playful
about them, this is ideal. Women *love* guys like that.
Your (everyone who has posted in this thread thus far) problem is that you unconsciously need
a female’s approval. That when she simply refuses to give you “approval” you give in.
Dump that need for approval and tell your unconscious Little Boy to go fuck himself.

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Re: “Married Men – Post Here If You Hate Your Life
Post by happyghost on Yesterday at 4:24pm

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OK, I’ve got problems with my wife, but the solution to this one is quite simple: DO IT
The reason you “can’t” is because you are afraid. Sorry, but it’s just that simple. Afraid of
her, afraid of the consequences, afraid of the disapproval of yet another strong woman – I
don’t know, but you have to get over it.
Here’s what you do:
Months ahead of your planed trip, you TELL her: “honey, I’m planning our yearly fishing trip
for June 7-14. Any conflicts I should know about, because I’m making reservations today.”
(using active language puts YOU in control. Getting the all clear from her gets you off the
hook from any “surprises” that might pop up.)
As the months go buy, she will no doubt bait you into arguments, give you guilt trips etc.
The BEST tactic is to simply IGNORE her. DO NOT get drawn into a battle. If she’s in a pissy
mood, and says nothing is wrong, well then act as if nothing is wrong, This is my #1
technique for staying in control.
When you leave on the trip, LEAVE HER BEHIND. Put all her pissing whining and guilt tripping
out of your head and have fun, It will be there when you get back, trust me.
Guys the only way a woman can control you is if you LET her. Truth.
I’ve been married for ten years, and it sucks, a lot. I love my kids, but my wife is a
control freak and a bitch, and her main mission in life seems to be to grind me down into
some sort of Stepford Hub. As an example, I went to pick up my daughter at a birthday party
over the weekend. For once, the people throwing the party didn’t have a lot of money, and it
was a smallish, sort of cheap house, with a few kids in the back yard swimming in an
above-ground pool, which was deep enough for them to swim, but not so deep they could get
into any trouble. For once, the party wasn’t some frantic, ubermommy running around trying to
outdo her friends. My daughter had spent two or three hours swimming in the pool, and had a
blast. So when I got home, I told my wife that it was a great party, the best I’d ever seen,
and she got all pissed because I apparently had implied that the party she was going to throw
in a week for my daughter wouldn’t be as good, and wasn’t that insensitive of me, and so on.
I wish I had not married her, except for the kids. The thing I learned is that power is a
really important thing in marriage. Once they realize you have the power, women are far, far
nicer to you. It’s fucked, but they are. As for those who are considering marriage, do it if
you want kids, but remain in control, and don’t let her even think about trying to change
A statistical impossibility for ALL the men in this thread to have married the “wrong woman”.
A simple truism is that you really can’t “tell” who the person is before you marry them. At
that point the green felt on the blackjack table is redone and the new hand dealt is one that
is unlikely to work in your favor.
Thus, for a man to get married simply because he friends are getting married or that he wants
to show his girlfriend that he truly loves her is a foolish man, indeed.
The main reason why men get married in the first place is because he is with the first woman
who excites him and gives him exclusive and consistent access to her overrated pussy. In a
moment of irrational, unclear thought he decides that marriage is for him and then he enters
into an agreement where the odds are stacked against him.
In most cases of marriage, the sizzle quickly subsides and normalcy sets. Predictability is a
killer for romance and a destroyer of sexual relations, and that’s what is likely to happen.
Once the divorce papers are filed (twice as likely for the woman to file than the man in the
U.S.) the man is likely to lose access to his children and will probably have to pay for
child support and alimony.
Thus, it is in a man’s best interest to put off marriage for as long as he can unless he
absolutely wants to have children.
Choosing the “wrong woman” is chick logic as it assumes that there is a soul mate or a male’s
anima in biological form waiting out there to be “found”. Such a thing is unlikely and to
presume it can happen is foolhardy.
Women will try to change you, it’s inevitable. What you can do at the minimum is look like
you are alpha. Speak loudly, stomp, make noise, don’t take any shit. If she yells, yell back
so she knows you won’t take that. At the same time, take care of responsibilities before she
thinks about them.
Only then will you have a ‘happy’ marriage.
Guys, you need to understand something. It’s very simple.
Women only love you to the extent that they need you. Once they don’t need you any more, you
are history.
So when I married, I used a very simple strategy: I married a very nice woman who I knew for
a fact could never build her own career. She wasn’t quite a “smart” as I wanted, but she was
sweet and a great artist. 10 years later, she depends on me, I’m the sole breadwinner. She
raises the kids. Very old-fashioned. Is is still difficult to be married? Hell yes. But she’s
not divorcing me any time soon, and when I stand my ground in a fight, she listens. Because,
frankly, she needs my earning ability.
That is the secret of a successful marriage. And that is why, over the centuries, societies
have discouraged women from having careers. Because women who are financially independent
turn into total fucking jerks who fuck over not only men, but everybody in their way. Women
are, by genetic design, totally and completely incapable of being trusted with independent
power. They are selfish to the core, designed that way my Mother nature to help them cope
with the stress of the insanely difficult job of raising children. Under certain conditions,
that selfishness works fine for everybody…for example, when they are dependant on a man for
Power corrupts, and in this is no different for women than for anybody else. Everybody needs
something to keep them in line. Everybody, without some controls on them, turns into a jerk.
So in our modern society, women have been relieved of essentially ALL social control. They
can do any fucking thing they want to the men in their lives, with no consequences. They can
even gun them down, claim it was self-protection, and get away free.
It’s no surprise then that women are such heartless, horrible swinish louts in today’s
society. They are allowed to let their selfishness, petulance, sexual power, and
self-absorption run WILD and you bet, this turns them into awful human beings.
So again, Men, what can you do? Whatever you do, avoid a woman who is “perfect”. Who makes a
lot of money. Who is extremely beautiful. Who is a fuck machine. All of those things will
make her seem desirable to you, but strangely, those are exactly the things that will make
her a lousy wife.
You aren’t marrying a woman because she is the BEST. You are marrying her because she will be
a good wife…to YOU. Think about that.
What I would do, if I could do it differently, is get a woman who is dependent on me. Men
understand the responsibilities of power, women do not, as you said. Get a woman who listens
to you and obeys you and you’ll do what nature intended – have a happy loving family.
When I first got married, and when I was younger, I spent a huge amount of time and effort
trying to do the right thing. I would listen patiently to some woman’s problems, I would try
to help my wife talk about her issues when she was pissed off at me, etc. It didn’t work.
Donald Rumsfeld said once that “Weakness is provocative” and he was absolutely right, at
least with respect to women. Women understand and respect power, when they see it, and will
then allow themselves to treat you reasonably. If they see a lack of it, they will abuse you.
Men aren’t like that, typically. If a man sees another man who’s weak, he’ll ignore him, but
he won’t abuse him. Women will. You have to be very careful about paying serious attentions
to the accusations your wife makes, putting up with bullshit, etc. Women are incredibly
skilled at allowing their own emotional state to be the only thing that matters in making a
decision — you know, “I cheated on you because I wasn’t getting my needs met, which makes it
okay.” They’re a lot less likely to do this if they know you can leave them, and bankrupt
them. Woman are also not too rational — they’re not big on thinking about consequences. Men
Best advice I ever got, from Stanley Bing actually. When you have a fight with your
wife…FIGHT HARD. DON’T back down. You are doing her, yourself, and the world a disservice
if you do.
[In response to a 36-year-old man considering marriage]: Never get married. You’re finally at
the age where life starts getting really good: You can date a girl half your age and it’s
From my experience, the 10-15 years age difference in a “more sophisticated” woman hasn’t made
any difference in anything. Women are now perpetual teenagers who never grow up, so you may
as well get the body that matches the mind.
Would you want to live with a retard for ten years? Because that’s what a kid is, a really
stupid person who doesn’t know shit.
That’s just luck. A lot of men do everything “right” and when they marry are sure their SO is
rational, loving, into sex, etc. Whether the woman stays like that is down to luck – all a
man’s judgment and actions do is maximize his chances of success. A lot of women put on their
best face before marriage at the subconscious level and stop making the effort afterward.
They don’t even do this consciously, so they seem to actually BE better women beforehand,
rather than putting on an act. It can be almost impossible to see this kind of thing coming.
If a woman, for whatever reason, changes or decides she is no longer satisfied in marriage,
the man is screwed. He doesn’t need to actually do anything wrong.
So you call their bluff. You’d think going without sex for a while was some kind of
intolerable torture. Pop in a porn. Rub one out. You’ll survive and you’ll have cut off that
source of power she has over you.
Freedom always comes at a price – pay it willingly.
The irony is that if withholding sex gets her what she wants with you, she’ll only do it more
often. Make it irrelevant to her getting what she wants and she’ll stop using that tactic.
You’re just creating a rod for your own back with your short-sightedness. Think with the big
head for a change.
Marriage for a man these days is handing a woman an axe, then putting his head on a chopping
block in the trust that she won’t cut it off. She doesn’t do the same for him.
Women have no idea what they want, they need to be told and controlled. If you are too nice or
become apathetic, you are fucking doomed. Either way, if you get married, you are doomed.
Women are cunts, and they are absolute masters of mental torture and abuse. If we simply
hired bitches to interrogate and torture all captured terrorists, the war on terror would be
over in less than a year.
this part bears repeating a million times. The ideal marriage promoted by educated women, the
partnership of ‘equals’, is a recipe for misery.
As a man you must have the upper hand. Marry an equal and your sex drive will give her the
edge since she can do without sex longer than you can.
A dependent woman is a good woman.
Just wanted to reiterate how, after my recent divorce (check a few pages back), fucking
inspired I am by all you tards. I never thought I’d say it, but this is really a great forum
for shit like this.
My advice for all you beaten down, miserable guys stuck with some fucking twinkie-eatin’,
american-idol/extreme-makeover-watchin’, annoying bitchy cunt is GET THE FUCK OUT.
Take your life back. I’m not tooting my own shit, but since I’ve gotten divorced, I’ve gotten
into 2 MBA schools (haven’t picked yet), played in 7 beach volleyball tournaments, and about
3 months into a fucking marathon training program. Yes, I miss the easy, consistent quality
sex. No, I do not miss just about anything else.
This is YOUR life tards. One shot, no “do-overs,” are you *REALLY* gonna spend it with some
unhappy fucking cunt? FUCK THAT. Reclaim it. Do all the shit you always wanted to do. The
pussy will COME to you. Make your move.
I’m tired of fucking by a script. We’re allowed to fuck in certain positions that are to come
in a certain order. There are to be no deviations from the script. Ever. (It goes without
saying there are no blowjobs in the script.) It bores me to tears.
I’d way rather jack off, which is pretty much what I do these days. If I jack off I can at
least fantasize about some fucking variety.
I showed the thread page to a friend at work, and he laughed his ass off.
Number of postings on a thread about Rove: 12.
Number of postings on a thread about Iraq: 22
Number of postings on a thread about movies: 7
Number of postings on a thread asking how many married guys hate their life: 500.
[Note: I believe it eventually went up to about 7,000!]
No sex is worth putting up with a fucking cunt who uses it to grind you down.
Clarify what you mean by “grind you down.”
Reply to reply:
It’s a long term grind. Putdowns. Undermining your every move. Taking cheap little shots to
humiliate you in front of your friends.
I just wanted to re-iterate something. It’s not that women love you because they need you.
Their love IS their need. They are the same thing. That is all their love is. They invented
the word “love” and replaced it over the more honest fact of their need, and surrounded it
with all this fictional bullshit, a hundred years back, to better trick men like you into
committing to things without knowing what you’re getting into.
They don’t love “you” at all. They love the image of you, what you provide to them that they
want or need, what fantasy number you can help them check off of their internal list.
If you look at a women’s life…her series of lovers that she takes…the high-school
boyfriend, the college professor fling, the Harley-driving boyfriend, the rich stock broker
boyfriend, the solid child-raising husband…
All of the guys she “loves” are just a set of internal fantasy men that she has in her head
from adolescence. When she finds a convenient guy who happens to fit a fantasy, she acquires
him, experiences him, fucks him, whatever, so she can check off one row of her mental list of
fantasy conquest boyfriends. In most cases if you ask her what the guy was actually LIKE,
what he thought, what he cared about, etc, it’s unlikely she even noticed. His actual
thoughts were irrelevant. His wants and needs, his dreams, weren’t something she was even
conscious of, except to the extent that his dreams were part of her fantasy of him. He wasn’t
really a human being at all, in her view.
Many women really view men as horses, and they are the riders. High-strung, maybe beautiful
horses yes, but in the end, just animals to help them achieve their goals.

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Re: “Married Men – Post Here If You Hate Your Life
Post by happyghost on Yesterday at 4:28pm

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Semonides of Amorgos, The Types of Women, c. 550 B.C.:
Zeus made this supreme evil—woman: even though she seem to be a blessing, when a man has
wedded one she becomes a plague.
A woman is like a vampire. She will suck the joy out of your and leave you a shriveled husk
of a man. But she must; that’s how she survives. Getting married is like agreeing to live in
a vampire’s coffin for all eternity.
I was driving back from a meeting this morning, thinking about my wife, and I really wanted
to go home, and simply beat the living shit out of her. I have been supporting everyone for
years, working my ass off, and my wife has not done one single fucking thing to make my life
easier, to encourage me, or to help me with anything that’s bugging me. She’s on the PTA, the
board of her preschool, she teaches art at the elementary school, is involved in a book club,
and on and on and on. Her calendar is ridiculous. But I am some kind of fucking afterthought.
I’m the engine that powers this entire thing, and I haven’t gotten laid in months. She takes
care of the children during the week, fine. But we have a housecleaner, because actually
cleaning the fucking house is beneath her. We take shirts to the dry cleaner, because she
couldn’t possibly iron them. Clean laundry is in piles in the garage, because she can’t be
expected to fold it. On weekends, I’m apparently her assistant. I can’t wait for Sunday night
to come, when I can get out and head back to the office. And every day there’s some new
example of truly shitty behavior — a bad attitude for any human. For example, last night she
was at her fucking PTA meeting, which ran from 7 until 11. I went to bed, and had just turned
the light out when she shows up at the front door, and starts ringing the fucking doorbell.
She didn’t have her keys. She then informed me that she never does. I pointed out that having
keys to your own house might be a smart thing to do. And she acts like that’s some kind of
major insult, and then launches into a description of what happened at this meeting. I
stopped her, and said something like “You know, I was in bed and almost asleep, and you got
me up.” It didn’t even occur to her that a) I would actually mind being jerked out of bed by
the doorbell; b) I wasn’t interested in a blow-by-blow at that moment.
Finally, after years of this, the truth is starting to sink in, and I’m devolving into this
serious, angry person to be around. All the normal, considerate stuff I used to do I don’t. I
don’t talk to her unless I have to, and not any longer than necessary. She catches me looking
at her sometimes, and the expression she sees on my face frightens her, I think. Somewhere
along in here, she’s going to ask me if something’s wrong, and I’m going to start screaming
at her. I’ve tried marriage counseling. I’ve tried listening, and giving, and being nice.
Now, I’m going to try fear and intimidation.
She refuses to work. She always has some excuse. She’s depressed, she won’t make a lot of
money, I make enough for both of us, she takes care of the house (not really). It’s one
fucking thing after another. So I just save myself the trouble and don’t bring it up anymore.
Fucking bloodsucking cunt.
My life sucks but my wife certainly doesn’t.
11 years. My wife is currently out a Wal Mart buying worthless plastic shit. She’s 70 lbs
overweight. If it wasn’t for the kids I would kick her fat ass to the curb.
Do it now you stupid fuck!
Save yourself!
I have been married 38 years, two years ago I checked with an attorney and if we split up you
know what she gets?
Know what I get?
Yeah, you will have child support but you will also be bying the 27 years I fucking
Pleasssssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeee do it!
Save yourself and you will thank me later.
I also agree the best way to reduce the bullshit from a wife is to stand up to her the first
time and every time. Love her or not, it’s important to demonstrate that you could live
without her.
I used to have friends. Till I got married.
I used to have fun. Till I got married.
I used to have money. Till I got married.
Someone get me a gun. I’d rather be buried.
The biggest problem I see is men getting married “because she wants to”. That is automatic
disaster, no exceptions.
Only get married if it’s YOUR DECISION and if you’re over 25 years old and it’s NOT just
because she’s good in bed (that’s a terrible reason)
I make it work, but only within the context of the shittiest existence I can imagine in terms
of what I expected in marriage versus what I got.
What I expected: laughter, doing everything together (from boring bill-paying to swing dance
lessons to movies on the couch to Sunday morning papers to buying tampons to medical problems
when they arose to whispered sweet nothings to deciding on a new sink for the kitchen to…),
great sex for life, growing old together, dying while looking into her eyes.
What I got: a woman who after marriage instantly turned into a shrewish whining nagging
sexless frigid materialistic petty manipulative cunt who only cares about how much money I
make, constantly upgrading her fucking wedding diamond (it’s now 3.67 carats), and spending
my cash on clothes from N-M, goddamn fucking window treatments from some specialty shop, and
endless fucking shit from Pottery Barn that has nothing to do with my life or our life.
Biggest mistake? Should’ve spent more than 4 years getting to know her. Should’ve not let the
great sex cloud my mind. Goddamn it all to hell.
To those who aren’t married, one key thing: Take a good look at the girl’s mother. She will,
invariably, become just like her mother. You’ll want to believe this isn’t the case for your
sweet little thing. You’re wrong. Completely wrong. Bank on it.
What a bunch of whiny pussy whipped shitheads. I’ve been married for over 25 years and I have
full control of everything. How did I do it? Easy, just adopt an attitude of, “hey, if you
don’t like it, there’s the fucking door”.
This attitude has served my marriage well. My wife thinks I’m one step away from walking out,
and she treats me like a king. Of course I treat her with respect and don’t rub it in her
face, but she knows that in the end, I run the show. We get along just fine.
Get a grip you fucking pussies.
I’ve spent a couple of years studying this and thinking about it. I am not going to spend my
life like this. Here are a few things I’ve learned:
1) Women respect power. They will never admit it or even know it, but that’s what they
respond to. Period.
2) Women don’t know what they want.
3) A lot of women aren’t actually very smart.
4) We are living in a culture that systematically degrades men. If there was a female Homer
Simpson character, there’d be a civil war.
5) Read the following books:
“No More Mr. Nice Guy”
“What Men Know and Women Don’t”
“The Manipulated Man”
The whole society has, at this point, devolved to the point that you accept that you’re
supposed to be this kind of infantilized miserable wife-assistant. It’s actually not funny.
Fix it.
this is the big problem: WOMEN ALWAYS CHANGE post marriage — men generally DO NOT
TRUE!!! And the funniest part is that we men get married thinking that the woman WON’T change
and they get married thinking how they WILL change the man!
My plan is to live with a woman to see what it’s like. If she’s intolerable, then I’m outta
She won’t be intolerable until you’re married. Take it to the bank. Tattoo it to your arm.
Link to this thread. Whatever, just don’t fucking forget it and if you choose to ignore this
statement then remember that we told you so.
she changed after marriage. I guess once they have that claim on half your stuff they lose
the incentive to hold back from grinding you down into a pulp of misery
In addition to scoping out the mom, there are 2 more VERY STRONG indicators of what type of
person your gf is going to be.
Her job: if she has a real job, works hard, is independent and makes money she’s more likely
to be a better wife. One common theme I see in this thread is that most of these women sound
like stay-at-home moms. What the fuck do you think’s going to happen if she just sits at home
all day?
#2: What does she watch? Does she watch shows that are challenging? exciting? movies and
series as opposed to soap operas?
Bottom line: if she likes to watch soaps and talk shows she is learning how to be an
attention whore and how to want and expect an unrealistic lifestyle.
Take it to the bank.
One excellent approach — sexual moratorium. Let her know that you are putting her on
probation, and that you are not going to have sex with her for at least six months. I know, I
know, but really. Buy a lot of porn, spank, whatever you need to do, but when you take pussy
off the table, a lot of her emotional leverage vanishes. You would be amazed at what you
do/put up with/believe because you think that it might get you laid. Translation: if you’re a
good boy, you’ll get some. Take that away, and you will begin to get your balls and dignity
back, and it will amaze you how you were willing to degrade yourself for it.
Once it sinks in that you don’t care whether or not you get laid, she realizes that she has a
lot less power than she thought. And it scares the shit out of her.
About 85% of women will be ***relieved*** you stop begging for sex. Other than that, a dandy
They think they’ll be relieved. Actually, they’ll freak. Sex and power are very closely
connected with women, and once they realize you’re not kidding, and you’re not playing, and
they’re suddenly reduced to the status of Jeeves with tits, it will rock their world. Trust
September 5, O.S. 1748.
“As women are a considerable, or at least a pretty numerous part of company; and as their
suffrages go a great way toward establishing a man’s character in the fashionable part of the
world (which is of great importance to the fortune and figure he proposes to make in it), it
is necessary to please them.
I will therefore, upon this subject, let you into certain Arcana that will be very useful for
you to know, but which you must, with the utmost care, conceal and never seem to know. Women,
then, are only children of a larger growth; they have an entertaining tattle, and sometimes
wit; but for solid reasoning, good sense, I never knew in my life one that had it, or who
reasoned or acted consequentially for four-and-twenty hours together. Some little passion or
humor always breaks upon their best resolutions. Their beauty neglected or controverted,
their age increased, or their supposed understandings depreciated, instantly kindles their
little passions, and overturns any system of consequential conduct, that in their most
reasonable moments they might have been capable of forming.
A man of sense only trifles with them, plays with them, humors and flatters them, as he does
with a sprightly forward child; but he neither consults them about, nor trusts them with
serious matters; though he often makes them believe that he does both; which is the thing in
the world that they are proud of; for they love mightily to be dabbling in business (which by
the way they always spoil); and being justly distrustful that men in general look upon them
in a trifling light, they almost adore that man who talks more seriously to them, and who
seems to consult and trust them; I say, who seems; for weak men really do, but wise ones only
seem to do it.”
Women are essentially a depreciating asset. Like a car, they go down in value. And even
worst, there is a 50% chance they will take your assets. Would you own a car that has a 50%
chance of reducing your net worth 50%? Think of a car like a Lexus. Get a new one every three
years. Or 36,000 miles. Which ever comes first.
This thread should be bookmarked forever. Dr. Phil and Oprah can choke on this shit.
I divorced my wife 4 years ago. The best move I ever made in my life. I worked an engineering
job and worked retail at night so she could stay at home with the kids. Did not matter, was
not enough. I said enough, see you later.
Women will always test men’s boundaries. You kid yourself if you think you can avoid this by
giving in – that just makes the behavior worse while causing her to lose respect for you.
It’s what creates the nagging harpy that makes the whipped man’s life a hell.
If you really have no energy or heart to stand up to a woman you should stay single.
And it’s not a constant struggle. The man who stands up to his wife goes through short, but
sharp conflicts without caving in order to get the respect from the woman that allows her to
see him as her equal so that most of the time their time together is pleasant. The more
consistent the man is in standing up to the woman the less she feels the need to test him.
The whipped man on the other hand goes through a daily low-level hell of control, nagging and
belittlement from the woman in order to avoid any larger conflicts. It’s a very poor trade

END of SECTION 3 of 9.

Re: “Married Men – Post Here If You Hate Your Life
Post by happyghost on Yesterday at 4:31pm

START of SECTION 4 of 9:

[My wife’s great]
Talk to me in 5 more years.
Too fucking true. First couple of years of marriage were OK but then her inner bitch
surfaced. Now it’s just one long monologue of pain.
“Bob and Cindy just got a new minivan. Cindy thought they needed it because she wants to have
three kids soon. When are we going to have kids? Do you like silver minivans? I think
silver’s a great color for a family car. I want two girls and one boy. Do you think we’ll be
able to afford private school or are you going to have to get a better job? Silver goes with
all my black outfits. Have you fixed the door squeak yet?”
and on and on and on.
[Quoting a guy’s wife] “Do you think we’ll be able to afford private school or are you going
to have to get a better job?”
This illustrates the root of the problem perfectly. Women’s perceptions are all distorted.
Note how this issue, to the woman, is a false dichotomy–can we afford private school or do
you need a better job. This is the extent of their ability to reason. This causes all of the
an earlier poster said to look at the mother to see what the GF will end up being. That’s
true enough, but look at the father as well. If he appears worn down and henpecked then take
a good look at your own future.
Education, region, status, and income.
The more educated a woman is the more feminist lies she will believe.
Urban women have impossible expectations unless you are Donald Trump, and even he’s been
divorced a few times.
High status women need a man far above them in status. The more money a woman makes the more
likely she is to divorce you.
Marry an uneducated, poor, nice girl from the country.
It was when I started standing up to my wife rather that pussy-footing around and trying to
appease her that things changed for the better. I don’t mean being abrasive or abusive, just
not backing down from my honest judgment and only compromising when convinced, not when
It all comes down to evolution.
Physically, women are smaller, weaker, slower and more vulnerable. If they’re saddled with
children, without a male around to defend them, everyone dies. Therefore, they’re hard-wired
to seek the strongest, most powerful male they can, and to seek out power, because their
lives depended on it. Things haven’t changed — modern society is just a recent blip in
evolutionary time. Women are hard-wired to understand pure power, because they have none.
That’s why they’re constantly testing. That’s why they’re so compassionless. That’s why
they’re not especially spiritual, or creative, relative to men. They’re too concerned about
staying alive to dream or invent. That’s why they’re so shitty at working in teams with other
women — they’re always seeking to develop their own power, and don’t really understand what
a team is, or how it works. That’s why infidelity drives them so nuts — they need one male
they can control, who will stay around and protect them. Women are created by nature to be
Machiavellian, and materialistic — store up supplies for the drought/famine/winter — and
this thread proves it.
There’s too much raw truth in this (although women are more than this too) for the PC crowd
to admit to any of it.
I’ve found (at least with my wife) that anything I say to her in a logical way will be
reprocessed thru her head to mean something other than what I’ve actually meant to say. I
think that sometimes she does this on purpose, but I’m not sure.
So, here’s my story. Tough day at work. Arrive home to find wife allegedly had tough day at
home with kids. She says she’s tired, and obviously she’s in a bad mood. I offer to do the
dishes, and she refuses. So, as I do most nights, I put the two youngest to bed, then spend
an hour playing chess with the older one, before putting her to bed. Right before this, my
wife asked me if I was going to do the dishes. I said, “sure” and she went out to Blockbuster
to get a DVD. At the end of the whole process of putting the kids in bed, I emerge, and find
my wife finishing the dishes, angry. She begins to ream me out for not doing the dishes, and
I say something like, look, I just finished putting the kids to bed. She then goes over and
tries to put a DVD in the player. It jams — we’ve been having trouble with it lately — and
she smashes her fist into it, breaking it, and the VCR, and begins ranting about how she’s
sick of living in the house we live in, and so on. Basically, abusive. I respond by saying,
literally, “Go abuse someone else, bitch.” She then responds with a string of four letter
words, and stomps out. I leave the house, and go to the gym. When I return two hours later,
she’s in bed and asleep, and my pillows are on the living room floor — sleep out here,
tonight, buddy. That’s fine with me — I was planning to sleep in the living room anyway.
We haven’t had sex in two months. We have three young children — a divorce would be a
disaster. I own my own business, and after three years of ass-busting effort, with absolutely
no support from her, it’s finally taking off. I’m past the point of wondering why this
happened to me, but I’m kind of amazed. Someone has to have a shitty marriage. Someone has to
marry the bitch. Someone has to be trapped. Look, it’s me! I mean, I’m a grown man, and I
have someone in my house who repeatedly has these psychodramas, and now it’s part of my life,
It’s a weird situation. On the one hand, you don’t want to be a beta and put up with this
shit. On the other, you also don’t want three little kids to grow up in an atmosphere of
constant warfare, fighting and so on.
And she’s almost completely incapable of rationally discussing an issue, and working together
to arrive at some kind of workable solution. It’s all demands, irrational rage, and pouting.
If there were no children, I’d simply leave. But I can’t. So you begin to develop this really
bizarre relationship where you emotionally isolate her, acting sort of semi-normal, but not
letting her know anything about what you really feel or want because she’ll use it against
you. I lie constantly.
You know, as I type this, about fifteen feet away is a DVD player with the spindle, or
whatever you call it, open and the shelf sticking out, jammed, broken and useless. The VCR
slot where the tape goes is gaping open, too, broken and useless. And this kind of stuff is
part of the fabric of my life, like my jeans, and my car keys. It’s like having someone
spray-paint obscenities on the living-room wall, and just pretending it isn’t there. But you
have to. I don’t know where this hate-filled child came from, but I can’t just make her stop.
The sad thing is that there are 10 of these stories for every one that has some crap about
“my wife is my best friend blah blah blah”.
Gentlemen, the above is the norm. It isn’t any better for your neighbor than it is for you.
This is life for those of us men who marry.
Let’s put it this way. Brad Pitt was married to Jenifer Aniston. A big time celebrity who
brought home tens of millions of dollars and even he couldn’t stand being married.
only boneheads marry
Speaking as someone married for 23 years, I AGREE WITH YOU!
Stupidest fucking thing I ever did. I seem to remember thinking I was going to get lots of
pussy from her or something equally inane.
The one-dimensional zero-experience assholes who say “suck it up and be an alpha” have no
idea how fucked up women can get.
the poster who said you never *really* let them in your head or heart any more is exactly
of all the people i *wanted* to be able to relax and let my guard down around, it was her.
now she has no clue what i am *ever* thinking.
cunts can remember and produce during the next argument shit you told them from 15 years ago.
That’s what they do all day – memorize what you’ve told them. guys do it baseball stats –
cunts do it with your own words, readying them like ammo for the next round of torture.
Truthfully i don’t have the best marriage, and what i found that helped when i saw i was
being taken advantage of was to communicate my feelings and if needed leave him for a day or
two, so he can appreciate what i do. This does work for me, but unfortunately he goes back to
being his old self. So i don’t have a long term solution. I think what we see after a
marriage in ones SO is their character, which was masked over with the personality and looks
that we fell in love with.
i knew everyone in her family before i knew her.
we dated for 4 years before getting married.
she was smart, funny, kind, thoughtful, witty.
THE DAY OF THE WEDDING, right after she got that fucking ring, she changed. I should’ve
walked out but I had been telling myself for months that marriage is for keeps so at first
you rationalize her fucked up cunt behavior, thinking ‘oh she’s geeked over the wedding.’
then the sex stops, then the bitching and nagging and pestering and arguing start.
to hell with her. i will not divorce her now because there’s too much at stake.
i thought i was marrying my very best friend, lover, confidante, and intellectual and
emotional peer. she changed gears and never looked back, concentrating on spending my money
and having party after stupid mind-numbingly boring party and buying the next house and
redecorating and getting more jewelry and… anything but pal-ing around with me and fucking
my brains out and laughing with me and walking hand-in-hand with me.
in other words all the shit she SAID she would love to do ’til the day we died.
fuck her. to her “credit”, she falls into the manipulative sex as a weapon cunt category i
have observed that about 85% of all women do (as I am sure 85% of all men have some equally
annoying habit in the eyes of women – like cheating on their cunt wives)
my passive-aggressive payback is to selectively and very discreetly fuck good looking,
intelligent, eager strong-libido women on the side. the sex is intensely gratifying,
especially given it’s not her pussy i’m drilling.
and yes i do close up emotionally around her since she will use any tiny thing i say for the
next 3 years in future bitch sessions.
The last time my wife and I had sex (two weeks ago) during the humping phase she comments
“when you get done, can you take a sock and clean the cobwebs off the ceiling?”
That is one of the most depressing things I have read. And I have read this entire thread.
Over 50% of marriages in this country end in divorce. Sometimes “taking responsibility” means
getting the hell out of a fucked up situation.
Regardless of that, it is a certainty that women will change after you get married. It is
rarely for the better, which is why this thread exists in the first place.
I’m so sorry that you are going through a hard time in your life. I would suggest you sit
down and talk to her and tell her how you feel. If that does not work i would suggest
*laugh* All grounds for another fierce fit of temper on her part…
This thread is highly enlightening in a way only possible through the recent existence of
the public internet. Ten years ago, this conversation would never have existed. Thanks
people. Thanks.
American women deserve every bad thing that has happened to them.
I married and Indian girl. Except that she’s educated, earns good coin, and is frugal, it’s
all the same shit [otherwise].
but men change for the worse too. are you really such a martyr when you’re as fucked up as
she is?
Please. You fucking cunt. All a guy wants is a girl that will take care of him, be a good
mother to his kids and be his partner in life. You show me a little love, affection and
appreciation and I’ll be your happy faithful little lap dog till death due us part. It’s that
fucking simple.
Just finished reading this thread. Fuck I am depressed. My GF wants to get married and I am
thinking, “No Way”.
Trade her in for a new girl. Let the new girl seduce you away from the old one, string her
along for a few years, then move on to a new girl.
Women are like coal rich mountains. Great for strip mining, but fucking ugly once you’re done
with them.
I am really fucking stupid. I didn’t marry because I thought I’d get pussy all the time or
anything like that. I married because we were “best friends” and we could talk about
anything. Actually all we can talk about now is how I need to make more money to buy more
shit I don’t want and nobody in the world needs. We need a new house. We need a new car. we
need new furniture. Fuckin ay, I need a new life.
Whilst marriage sucks, having American kids with a dumb American wife is the absolute worst.
What the young hens of today don’t realize is that “popular culture” systematically poisons
them against appreciating all the _stuff_ that men do…
The problem is too much self-esteem. These days, if you have a cunt, you think the world owes
you pretty much anything you want, whenever you want it.
Applies to women from European countries as well.

END of SECTION 4 of 9.

Re: “Married Men – Post Here If You Hate Your Life
Post by happyghost on Yesterday at 4:38pm

START of SECTION 5 of 9:

Sex and The City is like a show about what not to do, but young hens eat it up and believe
(as has been written many times here) that they can party like guttersluts until their late
30s and still be attractive, witty and desirable to rich, handsome dudes.
Women seem to be easily swayed by shows that are aimed at them.
Because we always fight with each other. You ever see women really supporting other women
(apart from the lesbian underground, of course)? It’s just a big catfight, so we ignore our
older sisters’ good advice (which is rarely there, really) and take whatever
glitzily-packaged piece of tripe that comes our way.
Women have been taught that it’s “clever” to be rude & unappreciative of men, and to
“funnily” snipe at them.
Women are great at goading each other into thinking they need more and more and more, to the
point that they are rarely if ever satisfied with life.
“You’re just afraid of________.”
I love how every time men make a rational argument about the misery of their condition, the
number-one comeback is to accuse the guy of being “afraid” of something. Some cheezy 1970s
female playbook they all receive secretly upon puberty must have a chapter about “exploiting
your man’s fragile self esteem.” So we are accused of being “afraid” of committment, “afraid”
of “strong powerful women,” etc. etc. etc.
“If you accuse a man of being afraid, he’ll do what you want to prove he is fearless, just
like a cute little boy.”
No more, bitch. Shaming tactics have been overused and are no longer effective.
Life cycle of a typical American woman:
– Fucks like a crazy slut in college. Gangbangs at frat parties on weekends. Destroys her
body by drinking, smoking and lying in the sun to get a nice tan.
– Gets a power corporate job, pumps her fist in the air over grrl power, and fucks more men.
One night stands during business trips are normal.
– Suddenly “oh no, I’m turning 30 and must land a husband”.
– Contacts every guy from her past, including that guy she rejected in high school, and that
Mexican guy she fucked during spring break.
– Wonders why no one wants her bitter, angry, wrinkled ass. Watches “Sex and the City” and
reads Cosmopolitan magazine for enlightenment.
– Eventually gives up, and orders 20 cats. Spends the next 50 years listening to the same old
sad songs every night as her cats wail in agony. Keeps pictures of herself from her high
school and college days to show people that she was once an attractive, young girl.
– Finally dies. Cats rejoice.
You forgot this part:
– Cats eat half her corpse after not being fed for a week. Landlord pukes his/her guts out
after finding her remains. 10 people attend the funeral.
Marriage to a modern American woman will inevitably result in complete emasculation.
I just broke up with my fiancee too!!
I took her out and said I felt we should put our wedding plans on hold, and she went CRAZY on
me. I ended up breaking it off with her completely…
Mine made the mistake of entering wife mode before she was my wife…I have a house and a
trust fund, and could not risk marrying someone who showed signs of being a wife as described
by this thread.
Three days now, and she is spamming my phone 10 times a day, alternating between rage and
If you are a married guy, the chances are that you’re only reading this during a brief pause
in listening to your wife’s whining. “That toilet needs unblocking, help me with dinner,
hurry up laying that patio, kiss my rosy asshole, etc.”
Being a bachelor, my Sunday is very, very relaxing compared to that of a married man.
Thanks to going to bed at 5:30AM after a relaxing night of surfing the internet and watching
porn, I slept in a little bit late this morning. It was actually the afternoon – 12:25PM to
be exact – when I finally sat up in bed, yawning and scratching my big bachelor nuts. There’s
no woman next to me to tell me to shift out of bed at 7:00AM and mow the fucking lawn.
Admittedly I don’t have a woman in bed with me to have sex with, but given that about 1-in-5
marriages are sexless and the rest involve sex only on her terms (i.e. when you’ve just
bought her a new dress) the chances are that many married men reading this have had to
satisfy themselves like I do, with a quick meeting with Madam Palm and her Five Lovely
Daughters. Except, as a bachelor, I can indulge in the pleasures of onanism in the living
room without having to worry about some Nagmonster barging in and shrieking “OMG! WTF! You
disgusting pervert!”
So, anyway, I’m up at half-twelve. I had a nice cigarette whilst checking my e-mails. Then I
had a coffee and another cigarette whilst playing a bit of Soldier of Fortune II until I got
bored of shooting virtual people’s virtual brains out. A nice big fry-up followed.
Mmmm…sausages and bacon. Are women more likely to be vegetarians? I’ve heard they are. I’ve
known guys who pitifully give up meat just because their ‘missus’ is a veggie. Meat is good.
Meat is tasty! Yes, I know full well that an animal died to provide the juicy slabs of bacon
on my toast this morning, and I salute that dead animal for its brave sacrifice in the
service of providing nice breakfasts. I’ll salute its sacrifice again tomorrow when I fry and
eat the bastard’s other ass cheek.
Come two o’clock and I’m down at the local supermarket. I bought some booze, hamburgers,
potatoes, bacon and waffles. I also bought some pizza that, right at this moment in time, I’m
currently stuffing into my mouth. Munch munch. I’m also currently watching Beavis & Butthead.
I downloaded a few episodes via BitTorrent the other day. It’s not even six and I’m
pleasantly drunk, eating pizza and watching some great comedy. What’s planned for this
evening? I’ll probably have a nice relaxing bath and read Viz whilst I’m soaking in the tub.
Then I’ll probably have a few more glasses of wine and watch some of the many South Park and
The Simpsons episodes that are lying around the Hard Drives of my five computers. Also, I’ve
just reinstalled Deus Ex and I’d like to play some of that too. Who knows what the future may
bring? Whatever I want it to, that’s what.
If I was married I would probably be standing in a stupid department store right now, looking
at my watch and tutting whilst the wife decides which dress she’s only going to wear once she
wants to buy with my fucking money!
But I’m not married. I’m an eternal bachelor. To put it another way, I’m eternally happy and
Christ I wish I’d never married.
The only downside to not marrying is that one misses out on the chance to have and raise
kids, watch them grow, help them and love them.
The upsides though…jesus fucking christ…they far outweigh the downside. No having to
listen to the wife bitch that you didn’t do this, didn’t take care of that, that she wants /
needs / deserves a new whatever. No having to put up with a cow who just keeps growing and
now wants to move her goddamn mother in… Oh fuck it, if I start listing all the negatives
of my wife and my life I’ll end up hanging myself.
I don’t try to split or evenly balance the blame.
Some is mine for not listening to my heat and getting married at 21.
Another portion is mine for not dumping her ass when she changed instantly after getting the
ring and the ceremony.
But the majority of the blame is hers (not that that fact makes things any better), for
dating me for 4 years and never letting me see the real her and doing such a convincing job
of lying to me that I believed it and of changing the second she got her precious fucking 4
fucking carat diamond motherfucking ring.
She has resisted years of efforts to attend counseling, talk about our dysfunctional
relationship in private, try new ideas, you name it. She is a conniving cunt after nothing
but my money who I will hate or expend effort ignoring until the day one of us dies.
After 23 years of marriage, my wife has filed for divorce. I was committed to a lifetime, not
because there was any excitement to it, and certainly not because there was any great
outpouring of sex, but because I bought into the idea that vows met something, and the kids
would be healthier with a stable home.
I will never marry again, as there is nothing in women worth making a commitment to. As a
rule, they are shallow princesses who have bought into the notion that they should drive
Mercedes, turn in the original wedding ring for a flashier one, and be provided for in a
fashion that allows them to have a nanny raise kids while they shop for shoes. My wife read
Bon Appetit only. She would have tea with girlfriends that totally trashed their husbands,
and they compared lifestyles so that they could all envy the ones with bigger, better more.
Life is all about pleasure for themselves.
Mine has no concept of work, and no concept of what it takes to make a living in the world.
Of course, she wants her freedom and support from me at the same time. Judges are not made to
account, and they condone the actions of unscrupulous ball crunching lawyers that make a
mockery of the law and the rules of discovery. In most states, the woman can give out sex to
everyone but her husband, and on divorce the husband is supposed to be her ATM forever.
As a result, women will bring down society. They offer nothing to it. Sure, some of them can
bake a decent muffin, but I can get a nice one at the local bakery for a buck fifty. Some can
pump out babies if they don’t decide to murder them first with an abortion. Their sense of
entitlement rather than of work and commitment means that children they elect to keep will
grow up with fucked up expectations.
On the dating side, they are whores. Give them a nice dinner and share a nice bottle of wine,
and you can get more sex on a weekend with a date than you can get in a year with a wife with
a sense of entitlement.
I think a lot of the dissatisfaction for we married men comes down to expectations that
society shovels on to us.
We support the household, but that is expected of us so that doesn’t “count”. After you work
your 60 hour week at a job you loathe, so you can pay the mortgage, the car payments, the
food bill, etc. it is a zero-sum game. What else have you done for me, she will say. Its no
longer enough that we support her fat ass, now we have to be in tune with her feminine side,
anticipate her mood swings and always be on the ready like a ninja to leap into action and
provide for her latest whim.
Men are just not appreciated for what they do best, that is earn a living.
I’m married and I hate my life.
Gents, most of the worst negatives about marriage posted in this thread are true. Not all of
them, but probably over 90%.
I’m 35. I’ve become a closet alcoholic because of my marriage and my spineless self. Vodka,
usually with OJ but sometimes straight. Keeps me just numb enough to handle the day.
But if I can keep one man from throwing his life down the shitter by convincing them not to
get married I will have redeemed myself.
My wife was up at 6 this morning, reading. I got up around seven, and spent the entire day
with the kids. As usual, she sat down around 9, and fell asleep in her chair, and went to
bed. I am absolutely last on her priority list. She’s on every committee in the world,
involved in the kids’ schools up to her ass, and has basically checked out of the marriage.
I’m starting to research how to conceal assets. This is ridiculous. I have to get out. Don’t
get married.
The men who get fucked the worst in divorce are the ones who took feminists at their word and
thought marriage was an equal partnership.
Men who know what useless lying whores women are don’t make as many mistakes.
For me the ownage is year round. She doesn’t work. I pay for everything. No matter how much
money I make she rachets up the spending so we’re still living paycheck to paycheck. Kill me
This is one of the MAIN reasons for conflict in marriage right here: women promise men sex on
demand for life in exchange for the ring. The second they get the ring, they begin their
indoctrination of “idiot! i lied! no sex for you – come back – 20 years!!!”
Most women actually enjoy picking out new window treatments and stainless kitchen appliances
more than having the wild sex they used to enjoy with their men before they got married.
Their main desire is to control the male orgasm, because they disdain masturbation, hate
porn, and will crush your balls if you fuck someone else.
This is only 85% of women – 1 in 7 are decent and enjoy sex forever and are good women. The
rest of you frigid cunts are worthless liars.
I feel so bad for my friends that have cunts for wives. All they care about is the new
kitchen, trips, and the diamonds they “deserve” to get for xmas (two of my friends gave their
wives expensive gifts. What did they get? A new dress shirt and tie.). These guys are 39 and
their lives are over. They’re nothing but walking ATMS.
That’s me. I can listen to that harpy shriek about how she “deserves” (they love that word,
don’t they?) this or that and how I’m so mean, or I can just buy the damn thing and get some
peace and quiet, but at the cost of a little bit of my soul. Women are like zombies, except
they don’t want brains, just lots of stuff. “More stuff….”
most women keep the lie (“I’ll keep up my appearance, stay employed and support my kids from
previous relationships, and stay sexy sane and sober”) until they get married then the truth
(“I’ll get repeatedly fired for failing drug tests, drink excessively, periodically go crazy,
balloon to a size 18, and loose all interest in lovemaking”).

END of SECTION 5 of 9.

Re: “Married Men – Post Here If You Hate Your Life
Post by happyghost on Yesterday at 4:43pm

START of SECTION 6 of 9:

I was a witness of a marriage gone bad (saw it from the outside) of a missy who was by
herself (living with Mr’s family) while he was away. She just couldnt control herself or
stand being alone and ended up cheating. One of her friends informed Mr. about it and she was
kicked to the curb, literally. Lost everything: roof over head, money, CC’s, all the security
was gone in a INSTANT.
the saddest part of it all? This cunt doesn’t think she did anything bloody wrong. She “needed
someone” for a long time, and that’s how they justify it. They don’t care about breaking their
marriage vows, they only care about themselves. They only care about THEIR feelings and don’t
give a fuck about the consequences of their actions.
She lives in a fake reality where everything is O.K. She feels completely justified in what
happened, and has NO REMORSE.
As someone young and unmarried, this really bothers the shit out of me, as I (or any decent
man) could have been the poor bloke she did that to.
It’s like they wear a fucking mask their entire lives and then one day “POOF”, she’s a whore
I agree that the worst wives are the American ones. I am 40 and love my kids to death. But my
wife is a fucking bitch. Period. I have no illusions of a good marriage anymore. My
expectations are so friggin low. All i want is her to be a decent human being. Nice. Polite.
You’d think I’d asked if i could fuck her asshole. She lives in a $400,000 house, doesn’t
work, and has a bottomless checkbook. She doesn’t cook, and pathetic sex is about once a
month. My only sanity is I work in Istanbul 3 months of the year. And I’ve had a great woman
over there for over 3 years. Really, if I didn’t love my kids so much, I’d walk out and give
her everything, just to get her out of my life. I’m at a turning point. I really feel like if
I don’t get out now, I’ll regret it the rest of my life. Honest to God, I pray for the day
that she cheats on me and serves me papers. I never thought I could be the kind of man that
would leave his family, but its on my mind 24/7. God help me…
My god, Machiavelli was right.
Control or be controlled, its that simple.
Marriage is like a boring dinner that lasts your whole life and had dessert at the beginning.
The main concern for most women is to address their wants and desires, without thinking about
what it take to achieve those wants and desires. A husband, to most women, is simply a tool
to use in order to achieve said wants and desires.
Yep. Here is my wife:
We need a new house… blah blah blah… I need a bigger diamond in my wedding ring.. blah
blah… I want a new car… blah blah blah… If you loved me you wouldn’t be so cheap…
sure, I don’t work but that doesn’t mean I have time for cooking or cleaning house… blah
blah blah
It seems that your wives don’t respect you guys. They have what they want, and they take it
for granted. You are a money-making doormat to them.
My current girlfriend is almost 23. What I like most about her is the fact that she
doesn’t like to spend money. She’s ultra cheap. And to be honest, I am ultracheap because I
have to be. The two of us look at saving money as a fun challenge, and I think that is the
root of our relationship.
Sometimes, we get into fights and occasionally call each other names. But in a way, we
are both pathetic, and we know it, and at least we have each other’s company.
I think she is worthy of marriage at some point because I believe she will be loyal to me
to the end. We both have a lot in common, like to take small trips (especially to
disneyland), visit ghost towns, hike around new places, etc.
She’s a complete pain in the ass but so am I. When I compare her to the Mercedes of women
at school, I’d rather have her, the reliable ford pickup, because odds are it will be on the
road far longer than the mercedes.
And this, gentlemen, is how it begins. Some in this thread have wondered how we married fools
got in this state. Well there you go. Did we see it coming? From our perspective, back then,
this is exactly what it looked like. So different from all the sorry ass married fucks of our
day! And yet, Fate’s cruel joke on us, is that we became those men we laughed at. And now a
new generation of lambs arise, primed for slaughter as the last.
I honestly suggest that especially today women present themselves as sex objects to be used.
Their heroes are britney spears and other sluts. The media has presented to most women aged
thirty or less that “heroin chic”, or “short-skirt school girl chic”, etc.. is a viable way
to sell your goods.
Now, women are conditioned from a very early age that dressing provocatively will get you
attention. The moment the hormones kick in, or perhaps even earlier, the thongs are purchased
and worn.
Expensive makeup, trashy clothes, and trendy purses are now demanded by 12 year old girls.
It is the media that convinces women they need all that shit. NOT men.
The core of our relationship is that we both like to save money. I doubt that this will
We are simple people with simple needs. We don’t need much to be happy. I don’t need giant
television sets and the latest computers or sports cars to be happy, and she doesn’t need $700
purses or $100 MAC lipstick applicators.
I doubt that this will change unless she reconditions herself to have a very expensive taste.
Trust me, she will. Before you know it, you’ll HAVE to buy a house, and you’ll HAVE to fill
it with all sorts of expensive furniture and knick knacks to make it a “home”. And no, YOUR
knicknacks don’t count
Then one fine Saturday morning, you’ll find yourself wandering through your umpteenth
furniture store of the day looking for that perfect “banquet” (whatever that is), or finding
the perfect chaise (ditto) for the guest bedroom that hasn’t been used in over a year.
Then it his you – you used to spend this time playing golf, sleeping, or having a great
morning fuck with the same woman who’s calling you an “idiot” because you don’t know sangria
from ecru.
And something inside of you dies.
Getting married was the WORST decision I have ever made in my life. Of course, I married an
AMERICAN JAP wannabee — thinking that the woman she PRESENTED before marriage was the woman
she would be right after I do.
(1) We agree on love, respect, honesty, money and career.
(2) We get married. All bets are off.
(3) She quits job, refuse to work for duration, let’s her credit go to hell, leans on me to
pay for her mortgage, credit cards, misc bills, car payment. Meanwhile, I pay for our house,
all associated bills, medical insurance, utilities and incidentals. Side note, her credit was
so shot (of course she never revealed this until after the deal was set) that I carried the
loan in my name only for the new house we were to purchase together.
(3) I cut her off by refusing to pay for her bills (as listed above) — after 6 months – she
becomes indignant. She becomes further in debt and creditors start their agenda. Oh well…
(4) She starts emailing and calling all of her old boyfriends while I am away slaving at the
(5) I give her an ultimatum to cut the shenanigans out. She denies, denies, denies. I call
her bluff.
(6) Move her out to West Coast.
(7) Plan on buying her out of the equity accrued EVEN though she has not paid one single dime
into any type of investment INCLUDING the house mortgage.
Bottom line — DO NOT MARRY an American Woman
The truth is that there is nothing we really want. We aren’t materialistic. If I supply her
with knitting material she’ll be happy. Truth!
That’s what I said too, sonny. You put that ring on her finger though, and all bets are off.
That’s my girlfriend. She’s a granola chick. Likes camping, hiking, etc.
Unfortunately, she won’t be like this after you get married. Tale of Jekyll and Hyde.
Obviously your self respect if you don’t leave right then. At that point you are collusive
with your treatment.
No, At that point all her babbling/nagging has become so much white noise. And it’s much
easier to waste an afternoon in a furniture store than it is to put up with a month of
passive/aggressive BS.
I’m just agreeing with her so she will a) shut up b) get out of there as quickly as possible
so I can salvage something of my weekend.
Anything you do or say is twisted by them into playing their fucked up game. These people are
not real. They’re not human. They are just a bunch of insecurities and neuroses which
manifest themselves as egotism and bullying. They will never become good. They’re doomed, and
will doom you too, by association. That is the reality. You need to get out. Now.
Marriage is mostly a female ideal. Why should a man get married if he is of sound mind?
That’s what my wife did. In retrospect she lied to me more often than she told the truth, and
she manipulated me and my calendar constantly. All the while I was loyal to her and to the
Slowly, they suck all of the life out of you until one day you discover that the whole
relationship is lifeless. I’m finding, oddly enough, that it is the woman that discovers the
relationship is lifeless before the man does. I think it’s because all the while, she was
searching for wealth, shoes, and comparison shopping with her friends … and the logical end
of all of that is that it leads to no where. The husband buries himself in his career and
defines himself not as happy, but as provider and achiever. It is lifeless for him before it
is lifeless for her, but she is the first to discover it. The male just resigns himself to
the situation.
Then, the divorce comes. In 2/3 of the cases, it is the woman that files it. The husband
feels used, betrayed, lied to, manipulated, and disconnected. She gets the children, he is
booted from the house, the friends back off out of confusion, and he gets an apartment, bed,
television and toaster. Her life continues without him. She gets support. He gets to pay it.
Then the day comes when the divorce is final, and he discovers that he’s free. He’s not sure
what he’s free for, but he knows that he is then enslaved to nothing but child support and
Look, the problem starts with girls playing with Barbie. They think everything should
glitter. Even at age 4 they are vicariously trying to control Ken even while they fantasize
about their own wedding.
When women reach the mid or upper thirties or so, they realize they will not really glitter
like Barbie any more. But they all have a friend that does, who drives the flashy Mercedes,
and who seems to have a real life Ken that replaces the initial wedding ring with the bigger
and sparkly one. So, they get dissatisfied with their husbands, because they are no longer
Ken-like, and they blame their situation on him. To make the pain easier they spend him into
oblivion until they decide to divorce him altogether.
Men, on the other hand, grow up knowing that they will support the family. Barbie only knows
that she will be kept. Men are raised to be men, but women are raised to be Barbie; the first
can be sustained, the latter cannot.
I’ve been divorced for two whole days now. I was ambushed and surprised by an end to a 20+
year marriage.
I provided the income; she stayed home. I worked long hours; she became bored with lonely
evenings. She read fiction and romance novels; I read books about business, economics, and
theology. She wanted more out of life, but she had no clue as to the sacrifices I made to
support the family. I wanted more out of life, but she was totally uninteresting. I asked her
to work part time so that I could work less, and we could spend more time together; work was
beneath her, and would get in the way of outside activities. But I was loyal to our marriage
and to my vows, and I love my kids completely; her search for more out of life led her to
disloyalty and betrayal. I also became boring, I admit it. I would have stayed married to her
forever because a commitment is a commitment, and especially because the kids do not deserve
a broken home.
She justified her actions by demonizing me. It was the only justification her mind could make
to allow her to do what she wanted to do. But she was also scared — she had steadfastly
refused to enter the workplace. She wanted to continue her dependence upon me in the form of
support even while she declared her independence from me in matters of togetherness. Her fear
of the real world, and her desire to continue a unsustainable lifestyle proved to be a deadly
combination once she learned to demonize me. The breakup became mean and evil, and any lie
could be justified against the fear of the unknown.
I’m no expert on divorce, as I don’t have the perspective of time. But I don’t know how to
raise sons and daughters for the type of relationships we have today. 50% of all first
marriages fail; 70% of all second marriages fail. Daughters need to be raised to be
independent, but to do so means that you are not raising them to be good wives. To raise them
to be good wives, means they are vulnerable to a bad choice. I want my sons to live in trust,
but how can they trust the type of women that America produces today?
In the meantime, this sick situation is played out in a system that is horribly broken. The
Family Law section of the bar does not police its own. Judges award custody to any woman who
isn’t running both a meth lab and a prostitution ring. Judges don’t punish women for their
faults, but any fault by men results in huge inequities in division. And good and decent men
end up supporting ex-wives who simply want a change, but who are afraid of facing the world
with the full consequences of their own decision. The Rambo-style system of modern divorce
irreparably rips families apart.
Thank you for your time.
Women make decisions that make them feel good in the short run. They want to get rid of their
husband. They don’t consider the fact that after the rush of getting half his stuff they will
have to get by on less than half his income, and whatever they can earn while raising the
Society used to protect women from their poor decisions by making divorce difficult to
obtain, and providing no support for disloyalty.
Before the dark times. Before feminism.

END of SECTION 6 of 9.

Re: “Married Men – Post Here If You Hate Your Life
Post by happyghost on Yesterday at 4:49pm

START of SECTION 7 of 9:

I was happy but now I’m starting to wonder why I’m married.
Me; MBA, career job, low 6 figure income, workout at the gym 3 days/week, cook meals on
weekends, do major chores (i.e., heavy lifting)
Her: At home mom – but our kid is in 3rd grade so she has all day home alone – she claims she
cleans but it doesn’t take 6 hours per day 5 days per week to do the shitty job she does.
She says she’s going to go back to work but she keeps finding reasons why she can’t work.
Sex? None in 2 months (“urinary tract infection is cleared up but I’m afraid I’ll get
Fit? Not really
So she has no ambition, provides nominal home value, is sexless.
I’m not seeing the benefit of this marriage for me.
What I have now for a wife is not what or who I married.
I married an active, energetic woman.
And now? She is pure couch potato. She talks a good game but when I get home, things are the
same as before except she has moved on to the next book she wants to read.
Meanwhile, I blow through my income buying her the house she wants, the vacations she wants,
and so on.
Two years of Marriage. I’m depressed and turning to pot and alcohol. I’m not allowed to DO
anything without “permission”. I used to live life to the full, now I just exist to pay the
mortgage and fill the shelves full of worthless crap we don’t need. Thanks to the joyless fat
whore I’m forced to spend the rest of my life with.
Women evolved to care for children and be cared for by men. They are sensitive to emotion,
but not too good at math. If you want a miserable relationship try treating your woman as a
rational adult.
I love this thread.
Men: Women are unable to form a rational thought or argument and are constantly hampered by
Women: Are not! You’re just being mean! Waaah!
Women still think it’s cool to argue any point, no matter how trivial, to the point of making
their husbands dream of suicide, no matter what age they are.
There is nothing on this Earth that can be worse than a life-long power struggle with an
infantile woman.
It’s no wonder so many men are happily letting their wives leave.
The only way a man will ever find happiness, when he’s truly unhappy at home is to treat
his wife with complete and total indifference. Come and go as you please. Never, in a million
years, think of ever asking her permission for anything. Do what you want, when you want, how
you want, and with WHOM you want.
Once she (finally) gets the message that she really doesn’t matter to him anymore, she’ll do
anything on earth to keep him. The older a woman gets, the better this technique works.
Every woman who reads this will think I’m crazy, but every man who reads it will know in
their hearts that it’s 100% gospel truth.
[Men] thought that marriage was the deal that the vows and written contract said it was.
Little did they know that the vows had nothing to do with it and that the REAL contract was
the one festering in the pea brain of the evil sow they were tying the knot to. You know the
one that changes from moment to moment on the whim of the ill-tempered fatass cunt.
Not just the vows and written contract – no woman in history ever got married by saying
“after awhile – no more sex for you”. In fact, they state quite the opposite.
I think when we look at how so many of these marriages end up, we’ll find that its the male
who continues to strive to meet his end of his promise long after she has merely changed her
mind about hers.
I tried everything I could think of, read about, and hear of. Nothing worked. Whenever I
would bring up the fact that I wish we could have sex more than once every six weeks – she
would write up a laundry list of demands that she promised would improve things. Most of
these things on the list had to do with buying her shit and doing things for her. Like many –
I fell for it a few times and scrambled to make things better. That, of course, resulted in
very little changing except that not only did I have to support my family with a 50 hour a
week job, but I also had to cater to her B.S. and help her with the housework (she has no
other job).
I’m finally tired of what my wife is doing to herself physically. I feel my choices are leave
or have an affair. I think I’d prefer the affair – then if she finds out, we will have broken
up because I had an affair which somehow seems more palatable than saying we had a divorce
because she GOT FAT!
Just a quick question, have any of you men spoken to your wives and really sat down and told
her how you feel?
I did. Once every 60-90 days or so … for years.
It didn’t matter. My feelings were dismissed as being out of line. It always became twisted
that there was still another way I could provide for her (as though 60-70 hour work weeks,
remainder of the time helping around the house and yard, while she had a maid and no job was
not enough). There was always something else that needed to be better or newer. Her happiness
did not derive from me, nor did it derive from what she had internally. Her barometer of
happiness was completely tied up in adequately keeping up with all the perks her girlfriends
were getting.
She didn’t love me. She only loved what I could provide. And though I was loyal to the vows
until the end, she dumped me finally and gave me one ball busting of a divorce.
Ever see the old Twilight Zone where the little boy has psychic powers and he can torture and
kill anyone with a thought?
That’s the power no fault divorce gives to any woman you are foolish enough to marry.
How many people can be trusted with that kind of power?
A father leaves work a little late one night and, while on his way home, he remembers that he
has not yet purchased a christmas gift for his young daughter. He quickly parks his car in
front of a toy store and asks the salesperson:
“How much is the Barbie in the window?”
With a convincing voice, the salesperson replies, “Well, we have ‘Barbie goes to the gym’ for
$19.95, ‘Barbie plays Volleyball’ for $19.95, ‘Barbie goes Shopping’ for $19.95, ‘Barbie goes
to the Beach’ for $19.95, and ‘Divorced Barbie’ for $265.95.”
The surprised man asks, “What? Why does the divorced Barbie cost $265.95 when the rest are
only $19.95?”
The salesperson responds, “Sir, the ‘Divorced Barbie’ comes with Ken’s car, Ken’s house,
Ken’s boat, Ken’s furniture, Ken’s computer, and one of Ken’s friends.”
And also…remember that you cannot argue with an emotional women. Never. if she is in that
crazy mood. DO NOT TRY AND REASON. Say something like “I’m sorry you feel that way.” If it
continues then say, I’m not discussing thus further right now and walk away or make a phone
call or pick up your copy of GQ and start reading it. Eventually she’ll calm down and maybe
you can discuss it. maybe not. But at least you are not expending all that energy. Its a
waste. You need to view your wife in that state like your 7 or 8 year old tantrumming child.
You cannot reason with them. Don’t try. Don’t be manipulated. Just be the man. Have a
backbone. Stay calm.
This thread may outlast 50% of marriages. Men should join the marriage strike, otherwise you
may end up broke and indebted to the cupcake you thought was going to keep the wedding vows.
Cupcake loves child support and alimony plus your house and everything else you give.
Marriage is a business now run by the government to steal your money and redistribute to the
women that are too irrational to control or take care care of themselves.
Marriage strike? I thought I was the only one. Divorce changed my life in many ways (5 years
now). Not only have I staged my own marriage strike, I made and inventory of my life as
regards to female influence all together. As a result, I have reduced my overall relations
with women. I still fuck with them ever now and again when the biological needs arise, but
not much else. I lost all respect for women once I came to understand them. All you really
need to do is compare them to the standards of good behavior towards our fellow man/woman
that we apply to each other as men. Once you understand their motivations and values in life
(as a whole, not the few individuals we all know) then your motherly-protectionist
perspective kind of falls apart.
The irony is that I have 5 year old daughter from that marriage. I watch her become more like
her mother more and more every week.
Amen brother. Once you truly realize the motivations behind your average woman (materialism,
self-entitlement, self-righteousness, etc.), the reality that they serve little purpose beyond
sexual satisfaction becomes 100% clear.
After watching the Vermont Teddy Bear Company ad for Valentine’s Day on TV last night, I had
a religious experience! I thanked my Lord and my God that I was saved from being one of the
pathetic males in an office cubicle who succumbs to female pressure for that kind of gift
just to get the annual lay.
I’m very glad to be single again.
You’re gonna have to keep having affair after affair after affair for the rest of your life
because passion normally runs it’s course in humans and ends after a year or two. That’s
precisely why marriage, a long-term proposition, feels like it sucks.
Last night the wife asks me on a scale of 1-10 if I wanted to have another child. Unfucking
She then spouts off a littany of reasons why she hated being pregnant, hated delivery, hated
post partum, and especially the fact that she could not shit for 5 days. It was horrible,
horrible, horrible.
She then goes on and on about how she feels sorry for our daughter because she does not want
her to be an only child and have old parents that she will have to deal with all by herself –
like she does.
Somehow she gets to the point where she remembers when I called her a bitch because she was
such a huge fucking bitch. “Yes, I was a bitch when I was pregnant and after the baby was
born. I do not apologize for that.” Well hello! I am not apologizing for calling you a bitch.
Of course the conversation, oh, what am I saying, her ranting, led to nowhere. As I pointed
out to her, this is a useless conversation. It has nothing to do with me. My opinion in the
matter is baseless as I have never squeezed a watermelon from between my legs, so there is no
way in heaven or hell I could ever understand what she is talking about – as she sooo clearly
reminds me whenever this comes up.
Oh, yea, about having another child – she is going to be 40 and her time is running out. She
is terrified that by the time she decides that, yes, she can stand having another child, it
will be too late. Wake-up call!!! It already is too late.
Save your ass. Stay single.
Once when I brought up the possibility of having sex, yes a weak moment, she again complained
about how she is always exhausted (not tired). So being the problem solver I am, I respond by
saying we can have sex in the morning.
“I don’t like sex in the morning.” she says.
She might as well have just said she didn’t like sex (with me, period, whatever) and
left it at that.
“I never knew how happy I was until I got married, then it was too late !!”
I was googling something for my husband and this board popped up so I started reading it. I
have to say this has been the most horrible thing I have ever read.. and totally on the mark.
There are a few decent women out there.. and I consider myself one.. but we are few and far
between. You guys in bad marriages.. get divorced. SO you lose some stuff and pay child
support. Isn’t it worth some peace? If you have kids a shitty marriage isn’t doing them any
good, so the staying for the kids is a lame excuse.
It seems men at the core just want to be loved, appreciated, and fucked regularly. I don’t
know why it cant be found among women other than their crappy families raising harpy bitches
who have no clue how to be a wife. I was lucky enough to have some great examples for the
wife role and that made me a good wife. Check out the woman’s family.. if they are fucked up
run like hell. Women are too caught up in trying to prove something, a power struggle, and
trying NOT to be a woman that they die dried up old bags. You guys go out and find someone
decent.. be picky..
You’ve come very close to the truth here; and the truth is that most guys start getting
kicked in the butt around their 7th birthday by their families; you either perform or you’re
a piece of shit. Most girls though are just relentlessly spoiled; they can do no wrong and
everything they produced is regarded as a marvel. That is how it was in my family growing up
and the daughters ruled the roost. They are spoiled rotten, with the predictable results.
The problem is spoiled children growing into monstrous adults without consciences. In our
society it tends to be women, particularly good looking women that get spoiled the most.
Go rent Whatever Happened to Baby Jane. This is what most American women are…horrible
spoiled monster brats that grow up to be very crazy old ladies.
My grandfather ( a hardcore marine and later a cop) said everything went to shit when women
got to vote.. LMAO! Considering the poll that reports women vote for political offices on
looks more than any other quality, I tend to agree..
For thousands of years, yes thousands, women worked just as hard as men but at different
tasks. Most of the tasks were agricultural – taking care of the chickens, collecting
eggs, milking the cows, tending the garden, herding sheep. Indoor work was also
labor-intensive just to maintain a semblance of cleanliness, cooking, canning, sewing,
beating carpets. Women who were able produced products at home for sale.
The stupid, spoiled, modern housewife ornament with every electronic gizmo and an unlimited
budget is a part of the problem, not the solution.

END of SECTION 7 of 9.

Re: “Married Men – Post Here If You Hate Your Life
Post by happyghost on Yesterday at 4:55pm

START of SECTION 8 of 9:

Smart is good. Educated is bad. Higher education will turn a nice girl into a man hating
This is part of the consensus.
Truth. Was involved with some woman awhile ago who had an MBA and she attributed every
conflict she had a work with a man to the fact that she was a woman. Totally delusional and
bitchy about everything, nothing but attitude. Very much part of the spoiled “I can do no
wrong because I’m a woman” Gen-Y crowd.
Holy smokes women plan their divorce almost 30 months before they actually do it? Everyday
you learn more about how devious the female mind can be. The internet may just save a lot of
men grief from the biggest mistake of their lives, marrying a cupcake. Keep the thread going
save the men! Marriage strike!
Women are not capable of moral reasoning. The things that come naturally to sane men – fair
play, honor, teamwork, loyalty – are alien to the female mind.
A woman without children seeks the hottest or wealthiest man she can get to knock her up, and
to marry the wealthiest man she can. If a better deal comes along she will instantly and
without remorse dump the less wealthy or attractive man, and she will have the full backing
of the modern totalitarian police state to take half the money and possessions of the man she
Give a creature with no conscience that kind of power and you have modern society, a culture
in freefall, and soon afterwards the end of civilization.
Came home last night after working 15 hours, 9 am to midnight. Climb into bed, about three
minutes later, the first thing she says, “are you mad at me?”
I ask her, “Is it too much to expect to ask me how my day was and whether I’m doing all right
after working for fifteen hours?”
I got yelled at for the next 45 minutes. I love marriage.
I string girls along, hinting at marriage. I get lots of pussy, let them clean my place,
cooking and all that. Then I create a reason for the breakup. Rinse and repeat.
I never quite figured out why the sexual urge of men & women differ so much. And I never have
figured out the whole Venus and Mars thing. I have never figured out why men think with their
head and women with their heart. I have never figured out why the sexual desire gene gets
thrown into a state of turmoil, when it hears the words ‘I do.’
Here’s an example of what I mean. One evening last week, my wife and I were getting into bed.
Well, the passion starts to heat up, and she eventually says ‘I don’t feel like it, I just
want you to hold me.’ I said ‘WHAT????!!! What was that?!
So she says the words that every husband on the planet dreads hearing…’You’re just not in
touch with my emotional needs as a woman enough for me to satisfy your physical needs as a
She then responded to my puzzled look by saying, “Can’t you just love me for who I am and not
what I do for you in the bedroom?” Realizing that nothing was going to happen that night I
went to sleep.
The very next day I opted to take the day off from work to spend time with her. We went out
to a nice lunch and then went shopping at a big, unnamed department store. I walked around
with her while she tried on several different very expensive outfits. She couldn’t decide
which one to take so I told her we’ll just buy them all. She wanted new shoes to compliment
her new clothes, so I said lets get a pair for each outfit. We went on to the jewelry
department where she picked out a pair of diamond earrings.
Let me tell you…she was so excited. She must have thought I was one wave short of a
shipwreck. I started to think she was testing me because she asked for a tennis bracelet when
she doesn’t even know how to play tennis. I think I threw her for a loop when I said, ”
That’s fine, honey.”
Smiling with excited anticipation she finally said, ‘I think this is all dear, let’s go to
the cashier’. I could hardly contain myself when I blurted out, ‘No honey, I don’t feel like
Her face just went completely blank as her jaw dropped with a baffled ‘WHAT???!!!’ I then
said, ‘Really honey! I just want you to HOLD this stuff for awhile. You’re just not in touch
with my financial needs as a man enough for me to satisfy your shopping needs as a woman.’
And just when she had this look like she was going to kill me, I added, ‘Why can’t you just
love me for who I am and not for the things I buy you?’
Apparently I’m not having sex tonight either, but at least that bitch knows I’m smarter than
Give the worthless cunts a taste of their own medicine for a change.
How can my wife tell me that she’s “in love” with me and still leave me without sex for five
years? How can I cope with this without resorting to divorce, affairs, or castration!!!
There is something that can be done. Men should just go their own way without women. No need
for divorce if you never marry. No need to put up with crap if you never step in it. Keep the
money we work hard for. Do what makes us happy.
I’m the one who works, but she can’t keep up her end of the bargain either sexually or in
terms of housework. I run 4x a week, and she inhales Dove bars.
Men, as proven by their overwhelming superiority to women in every field requiring teamwork
and/or rational thought, are more moral than women, more self sacrificing than women, and
more interested in the real world than women.
I know of several successful, older businessmen who married foreign women that didn’t speak
much English at all. They seem happier than most men. My ex was Korean and we were quite
happy until she started mingling with ameriskanks. I knew there was trouble when she told me,
‘They asked me why are you with him; why do you cook for him,..’. I should have seen the red
flags go off by that and corrected it before it got too late. For only that i am at fault,
otherwise everything was going well: good income, going out, raising a child together, etc.
i don’t think all american and western women are bad but a huge majority are (we have ears
and we have eyes so don’t tell me otherwise). Reminds me of the saying ‘Misery Loves
Company’. There are a lot of miserable women out there (like feminists) that can’t stand to
see another woman happy in a marriage and will do anything to jeopardize the marriage.
So what has become with my ex? She has joined the ranks of the single mother/divorced DPs
that get f*cked and chucked by the 7% of men that 93% of women go for. Does it bother me? Not
any longer, much happier just being a man going my own way.
“In the Anglosphere (US, UK, Canada, etc.), the media often reports of millionaires losing
half or more of their fortunes to their predatory female ex-wives via the divorce courts.
These millionaires are stupid. Just because you got millions, does not mean you got brains.
Smart millionaires, such as one of my best friends, controls his assets, and does not own
them. I have mentioned him on here before about his nasty divorce with a woman he found in
Mexico. To recap, things were great for about 3 years, then this woman from Mexico turned
into a total predatory female, just like the Anglosphere women are. Anyway, he gave me the
final report of his divorce settlement. Since everything he owns and his profits from his
real estate endeavors legally goes through his mom, and not him, he owns nothing, so there is
nothing for the divorce court to award to his predatory female ex-wife. His predatory female
ex-wife even tried to go after the assets that legally belonged to his mom, but this was
laughed at by his attorney, who shredded the demand letter, and then she experienced the
harsh reality that the divorce court was totally ineffective at “protecting her rights” since
she was legally married to a man that legally owned nothing. She was not married to his mom,
who owned everything. Furthermore, since he legally had no job, child support was very small,
and since he will legally never have a job in the future, his child support payments will
stay at a minimum. I believe the saying “By deception we will conquer” holds true for men in
protecting their assets from predatory females in the Anglosphere. As my friend said, “The
biatch actually thought I owned millions of dollars worth of property”, as he laughed his way
out of the divorce court. Hence, by controlling assets in the Anglosphere, and not owning
them, and becoming legally invisible in the labor market, a man can protect his millions
whether by the scenario described above with good and loyal family members owning them or
using trusts or corporations to protect them. Every man must prepare for the worse, hope for
the best.”
Let’s translate “loser” from women-speak into English.
“Loser” in woman-speak simply means a man who is smart enough to do things that are in HIS
best interest.
You don’t spend your hard-earned money on women – you are a loser
You expect regular sex – you are a loser
You are not interested in marriage – you are a loser
You don’t want to slave away 60 hours a week so a woman can buy a new SUV every year – you
are a loser
You prefer South American women who treat you better – you are a HUUGE LOOOSER
The alternative to “loser” is a pussyfied man, or simply a pussy. A pussyfied man does what a
woman wants – he is a docile schmuck who slaves away at work and pays her bills and not
pesters her for sex. Another words, he is an ideal husband.
So the next time an ameriskank calls you a loser, just smile and thank ‘it’ for the
A man was walking along a California beach and stumbled across an old
lamp. He picked it up and rubbed it and out popped a genie.
The genie said,
‘OK. You released me from the lamp, blah, blah, blah. This is the
fourth time this month and I’m getting a little sick of these wishes,
so you can forget about three. You only get one wish.’
The man sat and thought about it for a while and said,
‘I’ve always wanted to go to Hawaii but I’m scared to fly and I get
very seasick. Could you build me a bridge to Hawaii so I can drive
over there to visit?’
The genie laughed and said, ‘That’s impossible. Think of the
logistics of that! How would the supports ever reach the bottom of
the Pacific? Think of how much concrete… how much steel! No, think
of another wish
The man said OK and tried to think of a really good wish. Finally, he
‘I’ve been married and divorced four times. My wives always said that
I don’t care and that I’m insensitive. So, I wish that I could
understand women… know how they feel inside and what they’re
thinking when they give me the silent treatment… know why they’re
crying, know what they really want when they say “nothing”… know
how to make them truly happy. .’
The genie said,
‘You want that bridge two lanes or four?’
Q: If your dog is barking at the back door and your wife is yelling at
the front door, who do you let in first?
A: The dog of course…at least he’ll shut up after you let him in.
Bigamy is having one wife too many. Some say monogamy is the same.
The day before I got married I *knew* in my heart it was not right. Married friends clapped
me on the back saying, “we all felt that way. It’s just nerves.”
No, it isn’t. They wanted me in miserable Hell with them is all. Sure enough she’s a whining
insufferable sexless cunt who hid that side of her personality from me until she got the
“Tie yourself up with a woman, and like a chained convict, you lose all freedom . . . If you
only know what women in general are! Egotism, vanity, silliness, triviality in everything.
That’s what women are when they show themselves as they really are…No, don’t marry, my dear
friend. Don’t marry!”
— Leo Tolstoy, “War and Peace”
“Women are generally stupid, but the devil lends her brains when she works for him. Then she
accomplishes miracles of thinking, farsightedness, constancy, in order to do something
— Leo Tolstoy 1898
to all men of all ages…..NEVER, and I mean NEVER EVER EVER NEVER get married or even
engaged! String her along a little. If she stops putting out…dump her on the spot…it’s
only a prelude to what’s coming (or not if you know what I mean!) Your life will
suck…bitching….complaining……as soon as she mentions looking at rings….RUN!!!!
Sometimes, like right now, I wish that this thread existed before I was married. I might have
been convinced that marriage isn’t the way to go.
Again – after over 2 decades of anecdotal quasi-scientific research, about 6 out of 7
marriages suck warm chunky shit through a straw for the man. 1 in 7 are good.
Those are pretty much your odds. 6 out 7 for a lifetime of sexless hell, illogical bitching
and nagging, and furtive stolen adulterous moments leading to her getting half your shit.
Scientists have discovered a food that diminishes
a woman’s sex drive by 90%.
It’s called a Wedding Cake.
Why do men die before their wives?
They want to.
A man who compromises when he’s wrong is wise; a man who compromises when he’s right is

END of SECTION 8 of 9.

Re: “Married Men – Post Here If You Hate Your Life
Post by happyghost on Yesterday at 5:02pm

START of SECTION 9 of 9:

A young lady came home from a date, rather sad. She told her
mother, “Jeff proposed to me an hour ago.”
“Then why are you so sad?” her mother asked.
“Because he also told me he was an atheist. Mom, he doesn’t
even believe there’s a hell.”
Her mother replied, “Marry him anyway. Between the two of
us, we’ll show him how wrong he is.”
A woman and a man wanted to have a baby, so they went to the
doctor to see if there was a way. When the doctor came in,
told them about a new study that transfers all the pain from
the mother to the father during delivery. hey both agreed to
take part in the study.
Later, when the woman went into labor, her husband was
hooked up to the device to transfer the pain. After it was
hooked up the doctor turned on the power. The man didn’t feel
anything so he told the doctor to turn the power up. After
the power was turned up the man still couldn’t feel anything.
The doctor turned it up more. The man still couldn’t feel it.
Finally, the doctor turned it up the whole way. The woman
delivered a beautiful baby, and neither of them felt any
When they got home, the mailman was dead on the doorstep.
The Gen X Ameriskanks (or western skanks) seem to want to fit the mold of the Sex and the
City skank. There is one thing that they seem to disregard though….CONSEQUENCES. Playing
the victim will only get you so far until everyone wakes up to the bullshit.
For example, my sister was a skank. Her sons grew up and left (they were tired of raising the
divorced skank) and never even so much as call her now. No one else in the family wants to
talk to her and everyone is tired of helping her out. Now she is just medicated(wow, I see
that a lot these days) and living with the parents at 48 (and they want her out bad). And no
one could give a rats ass, including me.
I say let the Ameriskanks wallow in their misery. They have nothing to offer men. There are
women in many countries who treat men really good (and I have lived in Asia for most of my
adult life so I should know). If you need a woman, move there. But there is one good thing
about this though…since women never think of the consequences of their actions, men can
reap huge benefits ($) in the stock market and such by investing in small medical companies
(that specialize in anti-depressants and such) and in cat food companies (the future skanks
sole companion).
Generation X women are garbage. They have worthless attitudes and expect men to cowtow to
their unrealistic demands. I truly feel sorry for any man that married these things.
Honestly there are few women I can stand to listen to for more than 5 minutes. The level of
self-absorption in American women is profound.
It is really scary how men that were once married tell me that they were always alone, only
now they are divorced.
Women are never satisfied, no matter what you do, and marrying a being like this is a
disaster waiting to happen.
Best thread ever. Read it all and save yourselves.
Arthur Schopenhauer’s essay “On Women.”
“The fundamental defect of the female character is a lack of a sense of justice. This
originates first and foremost in their want of rationality and capacity for reflection but it
is strengthened by the fact that, as the weaker sex, they are driven to rely not on force but
on cunning: hence their instinctive subtlety and their ineradicable tendency to tell lies:
for as nature has equipped the lion with claws and teeth, the elephant with tusks, the wild
boar with fangs, the bull with horns and the cuttlefish with ink, so it has equipped woman
with the power of dissimulation as her means of attack and defense, and has transformed into
this gift all the strength it has bestowed on man in the form of physical strength and the
power of reasoning.”
Day 485 without sex.
No, I’m not fat or ugly.
Yes, I’ve declined opportunities with other women in that time.
No, I would not recommend that any man get married.
My wife was great. She was hot and funny and nice. When we had our first child she replaced
me with the child. She used to be frugal, but then she charged up the credit cards so much
that it was like using drugs. Now 18 years later we are fucked beyond belief. She also does
not have sex with me for two weeks at a time and thinks it’s normal. So I cracked and got a
mistress. I should have divorced her long ago for my own survival, but I did not have the
heart and still don’t.
Long ago, I had friends tell me to never get married and never buy a house with a pool. They
were so very right about the pool. It is a major complication in my life and a money pit. If
they were so very right about the pool, I can’t but wonder about the rest.
Women, especially those career chick American women, hate men that live well without them.
American career chick women that I know, seem to constantly devise schemes and such to draw
me into their miserable lives, but I just ignore them and continue about doing the things I
want to in life and living well. I am sure I am not the exception to this, with American
career chick women trying to sucker some other man into their miserable world of cats,
television, and awful attitudes that don’t attract men – and they wonder why they are single?
By living well, you will also find that certain men will hate you too (this is called
jealousy), but who cares, they have crap jobs as some type of salary man at big corporation X
or what not, to support some nagging, abusive, demeaning wife under threat of divorce and
losing it all or some ex-wife via alimony and child support, or have to put up with some
biatch American girlfriend, but you go home to peace and quiet, enjoying a fine cigar and
cognac, contemplating what country to visit next in your pursuit of being a world traveler
and connaisseur extraordinaire. You might entertain thoughts of having a family or kids, but
then you look around at those that do here in the US, and realize, you won’t be getting off
at that stop. Wait for it, plenty of women in world, plenty of countries, pick a place you
find that has good laws supporting men’s rights and family and such, and pitch your tent
there if you so desire a family. In the meantime, live well, for every second you do such,
you are giving the middle finger to countless people around you caught up in the system as
well as the system itself, and you remain free. Indeed, as they say, living well is the best
Being unmarried does not equal being alone. That’s nothing but a made up scare tactic to
trick someone in to signing over their freedom in some state endorsed contract. If its a
person’s religion and they feel like making that commitment out of love, then that’s fine but
why the hell the state has to come into it is beyond me. I think each and every individual
should be able to provide for themselves. Why we have to lock one or the other into a binding
contract is preposterous. The idea that I was too blind to see this 11 years ago makes me
wanna kick my own ass. Now, its not all about what I want, its about hurting a child and
making him feel like I rejected him… which is what he would be told and I know it. I have no
issue with child support or giving her everything we own. I could start over naked and
sleeping on a park bench and be in better financial shape in a month than I am now. Its that
one act of knowing she will hurt your child. Its that one act that I cannot let happen.
I may be the loser now but if there are different levels of hell, she’ll get a boiler room
Another miserable fuck here.
My wife found herself depressed after my son was born.
So she has sacrificed sex almost completely so she can be a fucking Zoloft zombie.
Dr. Feminazi is only to happy to deal them out (3 years’ worth) because “sex is not important”
fuck ’em all, i am going to continue hiding money; plot the escape.
My wife changed almost the day after the wedding ceremony. She began behaving as if she was a
child at home with me paying ALL the bills and her not contributing a penny and she did
nothing but go out drinking with her friends and sleep all day.
Anytime I questioned her she had a teenage fit (She was 30) exactly like a daughter arguing
with her father.
I think basically she didn’t want to be an adult and as soon as she thought I was as stuck to
her as her father had been she went immediately back to behaving like the stroppy teenager
she really wanted to be with no responsibilities.
And the amazing thing was how she had behaved like an adult woman in the six years we’d been
together before the marriage.
We’re in the middle of a divorce right now and she doesn’t believe its actually happening and
calls me saying the room she’s staying in is so awful and the people are so terrible exactly
like a student calling her dad with a sob story trying to get him to send a check.
She’s in for a shock when the divorce is final and I stop being polite and pretending the
divorce is just some paperwork we need to do as a family and she realizes she is on her OWN
and that I’m no longer going to fix things she’s fucked up or pay her bills.
She must be smokin’ hot, admit it, you were hypnotized by her looks…and thought she would
Yeah, let’s just ignore him saying:
“And the amazing thing was how she had behaved like an adult woman in the six years we’d been
together before the marriage.”
You are either a hen or a naive guy who has no idea how drastically some women are capable of
changing after marriage.
The best fakers are those women who don’t just put on a shallow pretense, but actually ARE
better people before marriage, yet once they get the ring they slide the bar from the best to
the worst of their personality spectrum, because whether they have realized it at the
conscious or subconscious level, they know they’ve caught the fish and no longer need to go
to the effort of baiting the hook.
I’ve tried like hell to talk things out with my wife. All she does is Bitch and complain and
say it is all my fault. Screw her. I dream of the day when we drop our youngest off at
college. As we turn to get in the car I will be making a mad dash for the nearest taxi and
head directly for the airport with a one way flight to the Caribbean. See YA Bitch
You’d be surprised at how many women turn into asexual porkers after marriage.
marriage is stupid. it’s the fantasy of a woman.
any man that gets married is simply a weenie.
Nope, just naive. This thread is designed to educate.
Many, MANY women promise free pussy on demand for life.
Then the second they get that ring everything changes. Dump your friends and adopt hers, dump
sports, dump beer, dump mellow weekends, dump sex.
6 out of 7 are fucking control freak shrews. Them’s the odds.
Still, about 6 out of 7 women believe it is their right to trap a man and then gain 75-100
pounds – “Why should I be sexy? Sexy takes work and I already made him say he loves me no matter
Don’t believe my figures – do your own count at the mall.
Marriage is society’s way to harness a male to provide shelter and nice surroundings for the
offspring and their mother. It is not meant for the well-being of the man.
A bachelor is a man who didn’t make the same mistake once.

END of SECTION 9 of 9.

Re: “Married Men – Post Here If You Hate Your Life
Post by happyghost on Yesterday at 5:03pm

And that’s all of it, gentlemen.

Please enjoy reading it, and feel free to comment on it, here.

Also, feel free to direct your young, naive male friends here, if they’re about to get married.

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  1. I am ready to walk…no RUN


    July 22, 2016 at 3:42 pm

    • So do it ….. Leave ! All I see here are a bunch of cowards ! Not happy ? Then chances are she’s not happy with YOU either . Get a divorce so she can be happy with someone that appreciates her , and all her sacrifice . Your kids will hate your guts , and you’ll deserve their scorn !
      I bet you’re all real Prince Charmings ! LMAO


      July 23, 2016 at 12:38 am

  2. Grow a fucking spine and appreciate your life. If your marriage was always about sex have a fucking word with yourself


    July 22, 2016 at 3:45 pm

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