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Worried about future regrets of not marrying?

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Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by Older Bachelor on Jul 4, 2005, 1:07pm

Well, I know many men over 40 with no kids, no wife, and none of them have ever said to me “Man I am sorry I never did the family thing”. Most are happy to be free and unencumbered, not to mention the lack of a trip to divorce court. I think it unlikely you will wake up one day and want to shoot yourself for not having kids. Are you stressing over it now? If you aren’t, chances are you won’t. You should hear the whining and moaning from my “Family Guy” co-workers in our division. The whole thing is being moved to India in August and 258 of us are getting fired. The Family Men and facing a bitching wife, economic doom, and possible divorces if they don’t find good-paying work soon. You should hear the whining! For myself, I have years worth of cash and no wife to bitch me out for being unemployed. I am actually looking forward to this, as I am going to Manila to hang with my Half-Brother (He is from our Father’s 2nd Marriage, I am from his 3rd) He is a 62 year old never married old Navy sea dog and can still whore with the best of them. We will be zipping around on his boat with young Filipino babes while the family guys back in Sacramento are having unpleasant encounters with their angry wives. It’s times like this that I literally thank whatever gods there might be that I never married.

We are living in a time were being single has never been better, and being married has never been worse. Plus, I don’t mean to scare anyone, but to paraphrase John Conner, “The life you know . . . it’s not going to last” The American way of life depends on massive amounts of cheap oil, to the tune of about 25 million barrels a day (That’s over a BILLION gallons a day). World oil production is very likely to start declining soon, and what might happen after that is anyone’s guess. Economic Meltdown? Gas at $20 a Gallon? Higher costs for everything? Another depression? More wars over oil? The end of the US as a world power? (Don’t laugh. Look what happened to the USSR) Got me. If the Peak Oil people are right (And sooner or later they will be) We are in for a rough ride. Are you sure you want to drag kids along?
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by khankrumthebulgar on Jul 7, 2005, 5:02pm

Reality is that it is irresponsible to bring kids into this culture of debasement. Our judicial system has allowed it to be open season on children in this country. Our system is wheels off and unless you live in a cave Family life is going to hell in a hand basket. The only reason I am staying here is I have children and Grandchildren. Otherwise I would go expat. It just does not make sense here anymore.

Fred Reed is right about our Women. It is the chip on the Shoulder the attitude that is such a turn off. I have met young Women raised overseas not here who have come here and think totally differently. Our culture will eventually change their thinking and pollute their minds as well.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by Willie Molson on Jul 8, 2005, 7:26pm

Older Bachelor, I couldn’t agree with you more. I am about to be 54, and I’ve never been married either. Right about now, I am feeling mighty good about that.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by The Author on Jul 9, 2005, 1:28am

To be fair, not all wives will revolt at the first sign of unemployment. Many of these wives are working, etc.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by HappilySingle on Jul 9, 2005, 12:24pm

Jul 8, 2005, 7:26pm, Willie Molson wrote:Older Bachelor, I couldn’t agree with you more. I am about to be 54, and I’ve never been married either. Right about now, I am feeling mighty good about that.

I agree, Willie. I’ll be 50 in a few months; while I have regrets about not being a father, I have none about not being a husband. Even if marriage weren’t such a raw deal for men, the joys and freedoms of being single far outweigh any purported downside there might be to bachelorhood.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by A Man on Jul 9, 2005, 12:58pm

Now is the worst time in our history (imo) to be married. There’s just no way I’m gonna sign a piece of paper that allows someone to hold all the cards.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by sevens1997 on Jul 9, 2005, 7:48pm

Regrets? The only thing I regret is not realizing this sooner.
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Post by dale35 on Feb 9, 2006, 10:31am

No regrets so far but still young yet. Although I’ve had several older guys tell me wait until I’m 50 to get married.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by King Karan on Feb 9, 2006, 10:40am

How to break the feeling of depression in younger men which come from social pressures (family and relatives), “friends”, colleagues, etc. from not being married?!?

That seems to be the question, how to break the feelings of inadequacy when pressed by the collective expectation to marry.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by Willie Molson on Feb 9, 2006, 11:01am

Karan, that’s a good point about the feelings of inadequacy that can be imposed by the collective on older bachelors. There is no singular way to address this.

However, we live in a time and in a culture of unparalleled intellectual and economic dynamism. If Mathematics was something that you were interested in when you were younger, and the lock step educational process inhibited your natural curiosity, teach yourself Mathematics, or Astronomy, or Philosophy, etc. Travel. Read the literary greats like Dickens, Hesse, Mann, Baldwin, Wright, Hemingway, etc. There are myriad things to do and be in the contemporary world. Save and invest and watch your net worth grow. Get in touch with your cosmic, spiritual, sense, which, for me, is derived from Zen Buddhism.

It’s an ongoing process, but the contrived societal inadequacy that society attempts to impose on single men can be transcended.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by Richie Rich on Feb 9, 2006, 1:15pm

***…..and 258 of us are getting fired. The Family Men and facing a bitching wife, economic doom, and possible divorces if they don’t find good-paying work soon.***

I work for in the Airline industry and right now the popular thing is massive layoffs, outsourcing and pay cuts. I got two of them last year in less than a 12 month time span. I am now in the process of getting the hell out of there and doing more relevant work that I went to college for. I thank God I am not married or else I would be stuck in a state of perpetual misery due to fear of a yapping wife and demanding wife!!!

The stress is bad where I am at, some dude two weeks ago couldn’t handle it and killed himself. This was the third such incident after layoffs were announced.

I thank God I am not married!!!
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by grandcurmudgeon on Feb 9, 2006, 5:47pm

I’m 53 and have never wanted to be (or get) married, and have absolutely no regrets about it at all. I’ve watched all my friends either get trapped into jobs that they hated but kept doing because they had to support their families, or get trapped with someone whose entire purpose in life and seemingly only “joy” is constant whining and complaining and tearing him down, or both. One man I know got one so bad that after they had been married a week he took her back to her parents and left her there. He took her back after he made his point, and put her to work as a farm wife so she has had things to do instead of dwelling on how she is victimized by failing to receive her entitlement to life as a princess.

One buddy of mine waited until after he was 40 to get married the first time. They had one kid, and were married a little over 20 years. Then, when he was 62, one day he got home and found the house cleaned out and divorce papers on the kitchen counter. Her legal bills were over $100,000 and his were over $30,000. He was an MD, who had also gotten a sizable inheritance, and she went after both. It was clear that she was all about the money. I happen to live in one of the best states there is for men, and when the smoke cleared he got to keep everything, had no responsibility for any of her debts, and was ordered to pay her alimony of $1/year. That’s one dollar, per year.

The way things have become polarized, it is difficult to not think of that as a “win for our side.”

Men and women really have been driven into warring camps, and the legal protections stacked on women’s sides are already completely lopsided. When people are wounded in a relationship, they can become vicious – look at makehimpay.net or whatever it is.

Regardless of what a woman is like when you marry her, if the relationship goes sour she will have you out gunned several times. If she turns vicious, the courts and the culture as whole will turn a blind eye.

Marriage has been gutted, and turned into a crime for men – most of us just haven’t been specifically accused yet.

Women are completely relieved of the cultural pressures to marry, while men are still locked into their old roles by law as well as social pressure. But, nowhere is real fatherhood respected – the role of father has been reduced to that of walking wallet, “daddy pay, then go away”, and “abuser” – “Breaking the silence.”

I guess I still have enough of the “population bomb” mentality hanging around that I don’t feel the least bit alarmed by the population dropping. With 6 billion people in the world, the human race is a long way from extinction – if some psychotic asshole doesn’t start slinging nuclear bombs and really poisoning things up.

As khank says, it is irresponsible in some respects to bring a child into this world. There is no respect for life at all, and much of the western world has escaped into an alternate electronic media reality.

Remaining unmarried and childless is the only way for men to stay out of the jaws of the machine which uses them for fodder. Women are the owners of the means of re-production, and men are the labor. And, men are going on strike for better working conditions. And as a result are dropping out of the matrix. They have much broader choices of the kind of work they have to do in order to survive,

And, they are spared the slow corrosive acid drip to their soul of a chronically unhappy woman.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by vman on Feb 9, 2006, 6:11pm

see post…Topic: Sad news for all parents…..
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by anonymous on Feb 9, 2006, 6:54pm

Ahhhhhhh another self-obsessed bachelor extolling the virtues of nihilism, defeatism, and hedonism. Hey, being a bachelor is a choice people should be allowed to make, but bragging about voluntarily joining http://www.vhemt.org is like bragging about how much money you make, because when you die, nobody will care and nothing you did in life will matter anyways.

Marriage itself is not a bad institution, rather the laws enforcing it as well as the laws governing divorce and child support are what are fucked up.

The human race will survive one way or another, just it is obvious your genes won’t. Not trying to be mean or anything, but I am guessing you don’t believe in god or else you might see that the only real purpose of any reproductive creature on this earth is to pass its genes onto the next generation.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by Guest on Feb 9, 2006, 7:13pm

GC-

What state are you in that has family courts that favorable to men?
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Post by grandcurmudgeon on Feb 9, 2006, 7:17pm

Feb 9, 2006, 7:13pm, Guest wrote:GC-

What state are you in that has family courts that favorable to men?

Missouri
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by Mack Daddy on Feb 9, 2006, 7:34pm

Stay free single and happy. I plan to save and invest my cash for next 10 years then I can buy and drive a nice classic Ferrari when I am 50 and bang hot 19 year old women. No kids and bitchy wife to rob me blind. Much happier this way.

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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by logic101 on Feb 9, 2006, 8:17pm

Feb 9, 2006, 6:54pm, anonymous wrote:Marriage itself is not a bad institution, rather the laws enforcing it as well as the laws governing divorce and child support are what are fucked up.

The human race will survive one way or another, just it is obvious your genes won’t.

Not true. A percentage of your genes have already been passed on if you have cousins, aunts, uncles.

You are correct about marriage overall (just not in the western world)… Smart men just do it in a pro-family/pro-male/anti-feminist country. That is why more enlightened men will continue marrying FW outside of the western world.

Conclusions/Summary

More feminists will have what they want. Less men to marry. More time for themselves. And the cat will take over as their ‘significant other’. Everyone wins!

-Logic 101

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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by Oddpod on Feb 9, 2006, 8:42pm

Feb 9, 2006, 6:54pm, anonymous wrote:.

The human race will survive one way or another, just it is obvious your genes won’t. Not trying to be mean or anything, but I am guessing you don’t believe in god or else you might see that the only real purpose of any reproductive creature on this earth is to pass its genes onto the next generation.

I can’t speak for the others, but you are right, I don’t believe in God, although I do believe in a sort of spirituality. And as for my genes surviving, who cares? I’m not so important, and neither are you. There are six billion of us here. What arrogance to think your or my genes are so special. Plus, due to genetic drift, over time, any genes you pass down will become jumbled beyond recognition after a few tens of thousands of generations, and eventually all species go extinct. All things must pass.

I didn’t ask to be put in this world; my parents put me here with no prior consultation. This world is a painful place, a nightmare for many if not most. My own life is quite good compared to most people; I’m fairly well-off and generally happy. But I have no illusions about this vale of tears we live in. Eventually entropy grinds down all individuals, structures, memories, nations, species, and perhaps even the fabric of space and time itself. There is nothing to be preserved, no “accomplishment” has meaning that outlives its maker for too long. But so what? None of this really matters. It’s still possible to live a rewarding life with the love of those around you, reach for your own inner cultivation, and then when the time comes, go willingly into the great nothingness beyond to a well-deserved, peaceful rest of black inky nothingness.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by rule62 on Feb 10, 2006, 7:37am

At 43, do I regret not marrying? Despite being close three times?

Yes I regret that I do not have an overweight nag tearing me down constantly, I regret that I can come and go as I please, I regret that I was able to take a position in Europe at a moments notice, I regret that I have no debt and a nice portfolio, I regret that I focus on my physical, emotional and spiritual health, I regret that I live in a beautiful home in the foothills of the Alps, I regret that I am able to afford a few “toys”, I regret that I do not have a screaming nag breathing down my neck telling me how I am not meeting her needs, I regret that my home theater has never once had Oprah broadcast through it, I regret that this afternoon was spent planning a trip to Odessa and Kiev for the purpose of visiting a country that I have never been to and to finally check out Ukrainian women en masse. Yes, I regret all these things.

To think I could give these up for a loveless marriage to an overweight nagging whale who has the entire force of the US government behind her. Oh how wish I could have had twenty years of cupcakes insecurities and endless drama.

Oh well, I’ll just carry on somehow.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by uzername on Feb 10, 2006, 7:40am

Lamenting the absence of people to mourn my passing?
Lamenting not leaving the legacy of my genotype?

Gee, l thought that being a free and easy single person for life was egotistical.

But the idea of regretting the absence of those who can deify me in death takes egotism to new levels.

Its also interesting how some will look for ways to invalidate the life choices of others on the back of whatever cobbled-together half-baked notion that serves their fragile self esteems. It a little bit sad. Maybe there’s a wiff of fear in the air.

If you are happy with your choices then what care you about the self flagellating choices of those dissident rogues whom offend your innate offensiveness?
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Post by PassingBy on Feb 10, 2006, 8:06am

Not trying to be mean or anything, but I am guessing you don’t believe in god or else you might see that the only real purpose of any reproductive creature on this earth is to pass its genes onto the next generation.

Please don’t talk about God if you don’t know who He is. From the many many Scripture references I’ve read (you know, that big book called The Bible?), I believe that our task on this Earth goes above and beyond passing down our genes to the next generation.

What if we want to adopt, and give a child a new chance at life and that they might learn who God is?

What if we choose to help out in some other way, helping people know God?

Bottom line is, just because I might not want to get married, doesn’t mean that I’m not a Christian, you’d do well to think more before making such assumptions again.
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Post by guest on Feb 10, 2006, 11:11am

Feb 10, 2006, 8:06am, PassingBy wrote:

Please don’t talk about God if you don’t know who He is.

Does this mean i can’t talk about Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny either?? At least Santa bought me presents and the Easter Bunny bought me chocolate. Truth be known, I don’t believe in any of them, but to me the physical evidence favors existence of Santa and the Easter Bunny over God.

If you believe in God that’s great, but don’t tell us what we can talk about.
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Post by celibateforlife on Feb 10, 2006, 11:46am

“Self-obsessed bachelor”?

If you’ve ever been at the hands of a contentious schemer who tried to fabricate false claims of abuse, harassment, and assault then you’d want to stay single too.

Yup, during my divorce we received doctors’ records that indicated she tried to fabricate all that crap. Her doctors and her lawyer told her she didn’t have a case. She was trying that route so she could extract the house from me through the courts and get a free meal ticket for life.

That was the single biggest scar on my heart and I don’t know if it will ever heal. It has jaded my view of women and I don’t know if I can ever trust them again.

I’m a +LOT+ happier staying single.
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Post by PassingBy on Feb 10, 2006, 11:51am

Fair enough, I was a bit hasty in making that statement , and thank you for showing me where I was mistaken, I do recant that one statement, but I still stand by the rest of what I said.

Maybe what I was going for was more of a “Please don’t be so fast to tell us Whom we do or do not believe in”, more like I said in the last sentence of my post.
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Post by Riskbreaker XZ on Feb 10, 2006, 1:04pm

rule62, never give up…somewhere out there-you may have to hunt them down- is a bitter, overweight nagging whale with twenty years of insecurities and endless drama who can love you for the money you make, the sperm you produce and the manual labor she can get out of you.

Never give up .

*Speaking of giving up, I’m going to get some garlic mashed potatoes with gravy…Lee’s post made me hungry.

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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by Willie Molson on Feb 10, 2006, 3:15pm

Grandcurmudgeon, what a poignant and elegant way to articulate the reasons that there should not be any regrets about having not married. As for not having children and not contributing one’s genes to human evolution, does anyone think that millions or quintillions of years from now one’s family’s genes will exist. There will be no humans. There will be no sun. There will be no earth. There will be no solar system. And, as Einstein’s cosmological constant intuited, with the universe’s expansion speeding up, virtually guaranteeing cosmic entropy, there will be no galaxies or galaxy clusters.

Your current life is the sole one you will have with your current consciousness. Why not do biophilic things and enjoy life during your life transit. Don’t let women, family, or society shame you into a relationship you may be ill-suited for.
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Post by romulus on Feb 10, 2006, 3:26pm

I have two friends who are the same age. One is single and bought an older model Ferrari, lives in the downtown area of a fairly large city and is enjoying life as a single guy. The other is married to a VERY average woman – read: decent looking, bitches and moans all the time, and nags incessantly (who incidentally THINKS she’s hot) and has 3 kids, drives a minivan, and is struggling to make ends meet financially. Both are equally happy IMO. There is no right or wrong answer here, you must first find a purpose in life and understand that every decision you make has consequences. This is where women have an unfair advantage, since they know their purpose by age 13 – which is to marry mr. right, have kids and live in a house with a white picket fence. Guys need to find their purpose and stop letting society and family define it for them. Whether that purpose is to have a family, live in seclusion as a monk on a mountain, or just be single. Find what makes you happy and do it. That’s the right answer.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by greenie on Feb 10, 2006, 3:29pm

I just turned 41 – have never been married – am I crying for what might have been? Not anymore.

I used to be paranoid about people calling me gay or pathetic. Now I realize that these people may have been insecure about their own sexuality than I could ever be.

As well, it’s better to be alone than to wish you were. I always seemed to be a magnet for insecure partners who had to tell me they LOVED!! me every half hour, or they wanted to be joined at my hip constantly. It wasn’t a need for independence on my part – I just needed room to breathe & think at least once a day.

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Post by phil on Feb 10, 2006, 3:31pm

Feb 10, 2006, 3:15pm, Willie Molson wrote:As for not having children and not contributing one’s genes to human evolution, does anyone think that millions or quintillions of years from now one’s family’s genes will exist. There will be no humans. There will be no sun. There will be no earth. There will be no solar system. And, as Einstein’s cosmological constant intuited, with the universe’s expansion speeding up, virtually guaranteeing cosmic entropy, there will be no galaxies or galaxy clusters.

I worry about the human race making it to tomorrow.
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Post by Mes on Feb 10, 2006, 4:55pm

I regret not getting married because…I think my primary purpose in life is to pass on my Deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) to the next generation…

What an odd odd assertion.

I swear, I think people get stupider and stupider every day. It’s like they see some prick on TV who just barely got his Ph.D. in biology from the University of Whatsername rattling off some garbage…and they worship him. They uncritically worship him. I think with the decline of religion, people have sought and sought to worship another source, and I think these sources have been the media and academics.

ALERT. ALERT. These people are human, and are as subject to error as you are.

I don’t have to go into mistake after mistake the “objective” mainstream media has made, or the mistakes those infallible scientists have made over the years. People uncritically puppet what the “experts” day, even when it violates common sense and what they see with their own eyes around them, because they are too weak or lack the self esteem to think for themselves.

Indeed, they’ve been duped. And the experts are making a nice living off it.

The primary purpose of life is to pass on the shape of my nose and perhaps a bit of my temperament to the next generation and those beyond. I say this because I saw this guy on CNBC saying that it is.

Just listen to how ridiculous that statement is.

Think for yourselves my friends. They very reason for the existence of this board is that a number of men started to question whether, in fact, inviting the government to involve itself in your personal relationships with women, and allowing it to tear away from you 60-75% of your property rights, in fact was the sine qua non, the ultimate goal, of life.

Sounds silly eh? Sure does. Once you step back and think about it.

Sigh…no wonder so many men continue to be suckered by American women and the System.

They won’t THINK.

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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by wayman on Feb 10, 2006, 5:28pm

Jul 4, 2005, 1:07pm, Older Bachelor wrote:Well, I know many men over 40 with no kids, no wife, and none of them have ever said to me “Man I am sorry I never did the family thing”. Most are happy to be free and unencumbered, not to mention the lack of a trip to divorce court. I think it unlikely you will wake up one day and want to shoot yourself for not having kids. Are you stressing over it now? If you aren’t, chances are you won’t. You should hear the whining and moaning from my “Family Guy” co-workers in our division. The whole thing is being moved to India in August and 258 of us are getting fired. The Family Men and facing a bitching wife, economic doom, and possible divorces if they don’t find good-paying work soon. You should hear the whining! For myself, I have years worth of cash and no wife to bitch me out for being unemployed. I am actually looking forward to this, as I am going to Manila to hang with my Half-Brother (He is from our Father’s 2nd Marriage, I am from his 3rd) He is a 62 year old never married old Navy sea dog and can still whore with the best of them. We will be zipping around on his boat with young Filipino babes while the family guys back in Sacramento are having unpleasant encounters with their angry wives. It’s times like this that I literally thank whatever gods there might be that I never married.

We are living in a time were being single has never been better, and being married has never been worse. Plus, I don’t mean to scare anyone, but to paraphrase John Conner, “The life you know . . . it’s not going to last” The American way of life depends on massive amounts of cheap oil, to the tune of about 25 million barrels a day (That’s over a BILLION gallons a day). World oil production is very likely to start declining soon, and what might happen after that is anyone’s guess. Economic Meltdown? Gas at $20 a Gallon? Higher costs for everything? Another depression? More wars over oil? The end of the US as a world power? (Don’t laugh. Look what happened to the USSR) Got me. If the Peak Oil people are right (And sooner or later they will be) We are in for a rough ride. Are you sure you want to drag kids along?

Enjoyed the first part of that was very good. Problem is with the 2nd half. This country wont be that dependent on oil for long. Trust me. The amount of $$ and time and Smart people working on alternative fuel sources is gonna go up and soon there will be a viable fuel source that will replace most of the oil consumed in this country. Besides that – IF (most unlikely) oil becomes too much of a problem to get from Foreign countries we have PLENTY of oil here, off shore, and in Alaska that has not been drilled for due to whiny environmentalists and such.

I have absolutely ZERO concerns for Americas ability to cover its energy Needs.

My only concerns is Americas Ability to cover the needs of its men in finding good women and Keeping good women. I will not marry until marriage laws are made fair.
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Post by phil on Feb 10, 2006, 8:11pm

Feb 10, 2006, 5:28pm, wayman wrote:.
I will not marry until marriage laws are made fair.

Even if that happens, I will not marry until women put marriage/family/babies as priority #1 instead of career being #1.

Right now marriage/family/babies isn’t even on the top ten list for modern women (until the bio clock kicks in).

FUCK EM!
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Post by celibateforlife on Feb 10, 2006, 11:37pm

It’s not good enough that women put marriage/family/babies at the top of their list. Lots of them tell you that and they still scheme against you when they use the divorce system as a system of indentured slavery.

The problem is a divorce system that is vulnerable to exploitation, coupled with a culture that is demeaning to men.

Women either choose to exploit it, or they don’t. Unfortunately, too many women choose to exploit it.

Foreign women can come into the US and be assimilated into the culture. They’re not immune.

So it’s not just american women – it’s the american system. The US culture does not promote healthy relationships and the divide grows greater as the culture has increased the gender gap. It’s so bad that it’s like learning a foreign language, and you have to scout the self help book section to learn the language.

Frankly, the effort is not worth it. I’ve given up. I have too many scars and have lost too much from my divorce of my scheming ex.

And women wonder why they can’t find a good man anymore – they’ve withdrawn from the pool, it has too many sharks.

The only woman worth marrying is one who rejects current culture and doesn’t allow herself to be assimilated with the feminazi hags.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by LightningAura on Feb 11, 2006, 1:21am

Feb 9, 2006, 6:54pm, anonymous wrote:Ahhhhhhh another self-obsessed bachelor extolling the virtues of nihilism, defeatism, and hedonism. Hey, being a bachelor is a choice people should be allowed to make, but bragging about voluntarily joining http://www.vhemt.org is like bragging about how much money you make, because when you die, nobody will care and nothing you did in life will matter anyways.

Marriage itself is not a bad institution, rather the laws enforcing it as well as the laws governing divorce and child support are what are fucked up.

The human race will survive one way or another, just it is obvious your genes won’t. Not trying to be mean or anything, but I am guessing you don’t believe in god or else you might see that the only real purpose of any reproductive creature on this earth is to pass its genes onto the next generation.

How are humans any better than animals if our only goal in life is passing our genes on? There is much more to life.
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Post by kestral on Mar 13, 2006, 4:15pm

I want to know too, what state are you in? Surprised you didn’t just mention it.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by Independant Black Man on Mar 13, 2006, 4:28pm

This is a question that has crossed my mind on more than one occasion. I’m 39 and glad that I am single. However, a few women have planted the seeds of wonder that I may regret my decisions later on.

Seeing the responses here from older men validates my suspicions. Even if I did regret not having kids, I tell myself that I could adopt or even father a child in my advanced years like so many others do.

This very question exists for men because women have transferred this preoccupation over to some of us. However, biology prevents this from being a big issue for men.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by HappilyUNmarried on Mar 13, 2006, 7:35pm

Mar 13, 2006, 4:28pm, Independant Black Man wrote:This is a question that has crossed my mind on more than one occasion. I’m 39 and glad that I am single. However, a few women have planted the seeds of wonder that I may regret my decisions later on.

Seeing the responses here from older men validates my suspicions. Even if I did regret not having kids, I tell myself that I could adopt or even father a child in my advanced years like so many others do.

This very question exists for men because women have transferred this preoccupation over to some of us. However, biology prevents this from being a big issue for men.

It isn’t even a blip on my consciousness.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by dickthedog on Mar 13, 2006, 8:10pm

another self-obsessed bachelor extolling the virtues of nihilism, defeatism, and hedonism. Hey, being a bachelor is a choice people should be allowed to make, but bragging about voluntarily joining http://www.vhemt.org is like bragging about how much money you make, because when you die, nobody will care and nothing you did in life will matter anyways.

Doesn’t matter what anyone thinks. Fuck ‘em.
Also, you’re assuming that because a man has chosen this path, his life is a waste. Bachelors are just as capable as any man to create, invent, think. How do you know what any man’s legacy might be.

Talk about “self-obsessed”. yikes.

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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by kestral on Mar 13, 2006, 9:17pm

Just remember guys, Charlie Chaplin fathered his last child at 86. James Doohan (Scotty from Star Trek) fathered his last child at age 80 (with the 18 year old bride he married when he was 55) before he kicked off at 85. We have our entire lives to change our mind. Women have until their uterus rots at 40-45 and having babies later raises the chance of having a retard baby.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by BobbyL on Mar 14, 2006, 1:07am

Women are no longer worth marrying. It’s ironic that feminists set out to free women by destroying marriage and ended up freeing us.

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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by smasherdude7 on Mar 14, 2006, 1:17am

I think that I’d regret not marrying. I already do. But, I feel that I’m in a bind.

I’d like to fall in love and take care of her sincerely. I go through bouts of depression because of loneliness. Sometimes it gets better, sometimes it gets worse. I do need female companionship, it is only natural.

My life has been very exciting, both good and bad. I definitely see it getting even more exciting and full of surprises in the next coming years. I hope that I can cope with it intelligently and wisely. When I’m depressed, it gets difficult to be completely objective.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by dickthedog on Mar 14, 2006, 2:42am

Mar 14, 2006, 1:17am, smasherdude7 wrote:I think that I’d regret not marrying. I already do. But, I feel that I’m in a bind.

I’d like to fall in love and take care of her sincerely. I go through bouts of depression because of loneliness. Sometimes it gets better, sometimes it gets worse. I do need female companionship, it is only natural.

My life has been very exciting, both good and bad. I definitely see it getting even more exciting and full of surprises in the next coming years. I hope that I can cope with it intelligently and wisely. When I’m depressed, it gets difficult to be completely objective.

You sound like a young man. Don’t get into the mindset of “I need female companionship.” This is like blood in the water to a shark. Women are adept at reading and manipulating emotions, and their guile knows no bounds. I’m not saying there are no worthwhile women, but they are very rare. Keep your emotions in check when in the presence of women. They’ll call you “cold” and “aloof” and “insensitive”. All this means is they are incredibly turned-on. Take your time, watch your back.

All women will eventually reveal their true selves.

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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by uszername on Mar 14, 2006, 5:43am

Bachelor Brothers,

Those that denigrate us are quite simply… JEALOUS.

Its so obvious. They speak out against us = proof of jealousy.

Point proven. Case closed. No correspondence entered into.

from http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=JEALOUS

jeal·ous
1. Fearful or wary of being supplanted; apprehensive of losing affection or position.
2. a. Resentful or bitter in rivalry; envious: jealous of the success of others.
b. Inclined to suspect rivalry.
3. Having to do with or arising from feelings of envy, apprehension, or bitterness: jealous thoughts.
4. Vigilant in guarding something: We are jealous of our good name.

Now, what part of that definition does not reflect those who speak against us?
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by passingby on Mar 14, 2006, 7:51am

Quote:I think that I’d regret not marrying. I already do. But, I feel that I’m in a bind.

I’d like to fall in love and take care of her sincerely. I go through bouts of depression because of loneliness. Sometimes it gets better, sometimes it gets worse. I do need female companionship, it is only natural

Take this advice:
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Feb 10, 2006, 11:37pm, celibateforlife wrote:

The only woman worth marrying is one who rejects current culture and doesn’t allow herself to be assimilated with the feminazi hags.

Good advice, I’ve heard this before as well. If you’re going to have anything to do with a woman, make sure that shes NOT in the mainstream culture. Religion is a good place to start if you’re religious (true religion, which in Christianity’s case, would involve more than church attendance).

But be careful that you don’t get stuck with one of them emo/goth/black eyeliner types, by ‘out of the mainstream’, I also mean one who isn’t caught up with current fads and stuff.

Contrary to what some people on these boards might say, there are good American women out there that are your age, the only problem is is that they are EXTREMELY hard to find, furthermore, you run the risk of a good AW being corrupted by popular culture AFTER you get married (you know, like Anakin was turned to the Dark Side:D ). This is why the benefits of actually finding that good AW outweigh the downsides of what happen should you make a mistake.

I wonder where these few women would be located? Middle America perhaps, anybody know? Anyway, the risks are just too high, and that’s the sad part…
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by Little Lion on Mar 14, 2006, 11:11am

Worrying about future regrets is about as bad as worries about future worries. We might get Alzheimers, and forget what we were supposed to have regretted.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by smasherdude7 on Mar 14, 2006, 12:25pm

Not so young (early 30s), but young at heart, I guess. Yes I intend to take my time. But, I need the company of this board to keep myself objective. My friends started to tell me that I had issues because I don’t trust relationships completely. So, I’m glad that I’m here and there is justification for my worries.

At the moment, I try to focus on career. I do have tons of females friends and have no problem doing so, as over the years I’ve become charming. This keeps me busy, interested and I continue to learn until I find someone.

As far as comments about middle america are concerned, I think there is truth to it. I have lived both in rural midwest and on the east coast. I do recall missing out on one good catch. On the east coast, only one was half way there.

Mar 14, 2006, 2:42am, dickthedog wrote:
Mar 14, 2006, 1:17am, smasherdude7 wrote:I think that I’d regret not marrying. I already do. But, I feel that I’m in a bind.

I’d like to fall in love and take care of her sincerely. I go through bouts of depression because of loneliness. Sometimes it gets better, sometimes it gets worse. I do need female companionship, it is only natural.

My life has been very exciting, both good and bad. I definitely see it getting even more exciting and full of surprises in the next coming years. I hope that I can cope with it intelligently and wisely. When I’m depressed, it gets difficult to be completely objective.

You sound like a young man. Don’t get into the mindset of “I need female companionship.” This is like blood in the water to a shark. Women are adept at reading and manipulating emotions, and their guile knows no bounds.
I’m not saying there are no worthwhile women, but they are very rare. Keep your emotions in check when in the presence of women. They’ll call you “cold” and “aloof” and “insensitive”. All this means is they are incredibly turned-on. Take your time, watch your back.

All women will eventually reveal their true selves.

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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by solshinobi on Mar 14, 2006, 5:08pm

Smasherdude7

I use to be alot like you. You need to try to spend time just being you. You might hate it at first but try it man.

Just spend your time doing thing YOU like to do. As you do this, you’ll find out that you really enjoy this more. I don’t look at love as i use too with women. It is based on imperfect love to begin with ( conditional ).

I’m 33 and i love being single. I use to since being a child early on wanting to get married. I did nothing but long term relationships and was very faithful and not a so-called “dog”.

Now….you could not PAY me to get married or even a long term relationship for that matter. It’s not worth it with the emotional terrorism that women put on us.

If you must learn the hard way to learn…that’s on you.

Take care.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by richbansha on Mar 14, 2006, 5:22pm

Mar 14, 2006, 12:25pm, smasherdude7 wrote:Not so young (early 30s), but young at heart, I guess. Yes I intend to take my time. But, I need the company of this board to keep myself objective. My friends started to tell me that I had issues because I don’t trust relationships completely. So, I’m glad that I’m here and there is justification for my worries.

You are darn right you have issues. How dare you not jump right into slavery? You must be very selfish indeed to refrain from dying young.

Regret? I suppose it could happen, but only for something that you could never have had to begin with. What you wish is just that — a wish. There is no realistic prospect for you or anyone.

Consider this; even if you make one and only one mistake, you are already too old to recover. You may loose everything in middle age with no prospect of pulling even again.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by wayman on Mar 14, 2006, 8:52pm

Mar 14, 2006, 2:42am, dickthedog wrote:Keep your emotions in check when in the presence of women. They’ll call you “cold” and “aloof” and “insensitive”. All this means is they are incredibly turned-on. Take your time, watch your back.

All women will eventually reveal their true selves.

HaHaHa!
I love this statement. Simply because i have found this to be Very True.
My Current GF always accuses me of being Insensitive……of which i am very sensitive but i keep that shit in check and dont let it ooz from me like a mangina would.
Needless to say i cant get rid of her and she constantly wants sex.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by dickthedog on Mar 14, 2006, 9:27pm

Women love drama, which is why they’re always pushing a dudes buttons. They are “emotion junkies”. If they can’t get their “fix” by making you go off, they’ll resort to sex every time.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by Independant Black Man on Mar 15, 2006, 12:10am

Feb 10, 2006, 4:55pm, Mes wrote:I regret not getting married because…I
The primary purpose of life is to pass on the shape of my nose and perhaps a bit of my temperament to the next generation and those beyond. I say this because I saw this guy on CNBC saying that it is.

Just listen to how ridiculous that statement is.

Sigh…no wonder so many men continue to be suckered by American women and the System.

They won’t THINK.

Brilliant refutation Mes! This gene-passing argument has always struck me as an addle-brained female preoccupation, or one posited by gene-obsessed racialists who demand folks get married to prevent all the “darkies” from numerical encroachment. Either way, it’s a loser justification.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by Christopher The Harley Man on Mar 15, 2006, 12:31am

I’m 45 and I have never married. I have two new Harley’s, and very few regrets. When I DO start feeling that old emotional/sexual beast from within nagging at me, I just go buy more chrome. Or braided-steel break lines. Or new rotors. Or wide whitewall tires (for the Softail. Whitewalls would look tacky on the Glide.)

The point is, as a single man, the world is your oyster, and oysters are much better than…fish.

Christopher
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by Matt2 on Mar 16, 2006, 6:58am

Thanks for posting this. I’m 24 and have never been in a long term relationship. Before finding this (and other websites) I had thought that I wouldn’t get married until at least 30 and now I find myself thinking that I shouldn’t get married at all.

The only worry I have is that I would regret not having children. So its good for me to hear what older people think about not having a family.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by Christopher The Harley Man on Mar 16, 2006, 7:09am

Matt;

You won’t regret not having children. Have you ever smelled dirty diapers? Think of that odor wafting through your mortgage-laden house for years, all the while listening to your wife complain that you don’t fulfill her emotionally while you are working massive overtime to pay for the next batch of brats she plans on spitting out of her gash.

I sound sarcastic, but what I’m saying is quite true. I have watched many women over the years fall apart physically as they have had children, and brother, it’s not a pretty sight. The best thing you can do is read “The Predatory Female” by Shannon, available from Amazon.com.

Both of my parents used to counsel me against marriage, and told me if I could just make it to thirty, I’d be home free. Their advice proved accurate.

Do NOT contemplate marriage under any circumstances.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by David on Mar 16, 2006, 12:39pm

To Older Batchelor, Matt and everyone else,

I’d like to state that I’m a 35 year old bachelor and I’m so glad that I am. I don’t have any regrets about not being married and it is 99% likely that I will not be married. The 1% is if I come across a superwoman – meaning she is not into today’s culture and believes in putting family and her man first – not manipulative, etc.

That being said, I used to think in my teenage and early twenties that I’d be married by now, but I’ve only had three serious relationships in my life – and I dogged three bullets. Two where cheaters and all of them were manipulative. I almost married the last one – and I’m sure GLAD I didn’t. Last week I had a three way conversation on the phone with my best friends – those of us who have remained single, and we all say the same thing – that even though it would be nice to have a GOOD wife (not that we need one, because we definitely don’t), we are so glad to come home to a peaceful house and not facing an emotional and financial terrorist – which almost all women these days are.

You will not regret staying single after you see what your married male friends are going through. I have one friend where his wife is very demanding and controlling; and watching him suck it up is VERY distressful to me. When they were at my house, we were cracking jokes and she didn’t like it – and basically told him to stop. He just hung his head down and complied. I was like “WHAT THE HECK!!!” … I mean she is the “mother” now and he is the son – that made me so upset.

Another friend of ours who is married – and get this – “To a good woman” – wishes he was more free. We single friends are planning to visit Brazil, Trinidad, Venezuela and other foreign countries and he WISHES he could come; but he can’t because of their son. Now mind you, he is one of a few I can count on my hand of my friends who are happily married (that is less than 5 out of very many). Even my Uncle who is in his sixties told me that I’m very fortunate to be 35 and unmarried. He’s been through two wifes and numerous girlfriends and strongly advised me to STAY UNMARRIED!!!

My point is that even at its best, marriage sucks when you want to be free. Worse is if the woman you marry is a financial and emotional terrorist. Women who try things on me now, I just ignore or call them out on their game with no shame on my part.

Enjoy your life, stay free and you won’t regret it. I dodged some serious bullets in not getting married. I’m advising you to dodge those bullets too.

and pay attention to what the different boards and posters on this site say – the logical ones (not fools like Kim Cole, Jamie, etc.)
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by wiseowl on Mar 16, 2006, 12:54pm

David, thank you very much for that thoughtful post.

I’m so happy I’m single and free from American Women.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by Christopher The Harley Man on Mar 16, 2006, 7:28pm

Acepoindexter;

That’s okay if you disagree. That’s what makes the world go round, and it doesn’t offend me if other people don’t view life in the same fashion as I do. Truly.

With that said, I would urge you to reconsider what I feel is a flawed conclusion on your part. Marriage is a lose-lose situation for a man- any man. Under no circumstances should a man EVER sign on the dotted line. I don’t like generalizing, as I feel that there are always exceptions to any rule, but in this case I will, uh, make an exception to the rule.

Any man who enters into a legally-binding marital relationship has handed his testicles to a woman and the state. This is reality, and it does no good to argue otherwise. You might as well argue against the law of gravity or claim the world is flat. To protest my point would be irrational. A man is castrated the moment he gets married. Period.

For this reason, if no other, and there are scores of others, a man should never get married. Period. We have seen time after time what happens to a man when his wife dumps the marriage, and almost universally the man gets screwed.

Now, possibly you are one of those romantic types who just can’t believe that ALL women are that bad. I don’t know. I haven’t met all women. But the women I have known in my 45 years, including, unfortunately, my own mother, cause my gonads to shrivel up inside me.

Only a complete fool will marry a woman today.

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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by mg on Mar 16, 2006, 8:37pm

I’m single and dont have kids however my genes HAVE been passed on. My sister has had children.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by Mes on Mar 17, 2006, 1:21am

PLUS, if the woman really loves YOU and cares about YOU, she will care little for a silly party and a government contract. After all, what she really wants is to be with you, right?

If that is not good enough, then she doesn’t really love you enough. Then she cares more about a party, a government contract, or what her friends think than she cares about you. Her actions speak louder than her words.

In that event, you shouldn’t be with her because she really doesn’t love you enough anyways.

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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by BobbyL on Mar 17, 2006, 1:38am

Mar 17, 2006, 1:21am, Mes wrote:she cares more about a party, a government contract, or what her friends think than she cares about you.

You have just described every woman who has ever married in the history of the world.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by god help me 1 on Mar 17, 2006, 10:17am

I have not a good word to say about marriage. I have been married for nearly 30 years. Still am. May be for some men who are little more that dumb beast marriage will suit them. If they are so inadequate that they are satisfied by just having a place to occasionally put their penis in then may be marriage is good for them. However, if you are anything more than these things then all that marriage is a dire surrendering of who you are to the whims of some one else’s expectations.

However, the real tragedy is that we let young men make the same mistake. The cycle of despair continues. Why did I do it? The answer is my wife asked me after a good deal of manipulation. Why did I agree? Because innately I wanted to please her and do what she wanted. It is an instinct I now despise.

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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by Christopher The Harley Man on Mar 17, 2006, 6:39pm

God Help Me1;

I’m 45, and I have been preaching against marriage since I was 18. I was raised in the Mormon church, and received a belly-full of the old “You must get married in order to achieve the highest level in the Celestial Kingdom” crap. Unlike most Mormons, I rebelled. The more they pushed, the angrier I got.

Some would say I’m a misogynist. Technically, that’s not true. I hate no one, but I have nothing but contempt for women. So, I have talked to men for many years and tried to warn them. Some listened, and many did not.

I think the most important thing for any middle-aged man to do is to try and educate young men about the dangers of marriage. Most of them are so horny that they have little chance of being de-programmed, but some listen. If only one does, then it’s worth it to me.

Christopher

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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by InMichigan on Mar 17, 2006, 6:47pm

Harley man I agree young men are horny and we are built this way so we procreate otherwise if we were logical like a computer we would banish women as inoperable.
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Re: Worried about future regrets of not marrying?
Post by Costas on Mar 17, 2006, 7:04pm

I will shape my life according to my own vision of it, not AW.
So it is ME who will select not SHE.
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May 6, 2007 at 5:02 pm

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  1. Yeah what more can be said on here. Thank you guys for leaving so many thoughts on here. I enjoyed reading every singe one of them. I’ve been leaning towards staying single unless finding an amazing chick, but even then signing is giving the power and freedom away….I and many others appreciate your honest feedback.

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    January 25, 2011 at 7:42 pm

    • >I’ve been leaning towards staying single unless finding an amazing chick…

      If you _really_ want to have some success in dating (i.e., have a long-term relationship) my suggestion is that you don’t look for an amazing chick. No, look for a low-status woman.

      Avoid super-attractive and/or college educated women at all costs; they’re both accustomed to having their asses kissed and think the world owes them everything. A girl who is average-to-plain looking, has a low-status job, and who isn’t too bright or ambitious will be a better long-term partner. Why? She’ll be easier to please. She hasn’t been brainwashed by hard-line feminist nonsense (_some_ exposure to feminist crap is inevitable, but it’s worse by far at the “elite” colleges where women dominate the humanities departments).

      Remember the old song by Jimmy Soul:

      If you wanna be happy
      For the rest of your life,
      Never make a pretty woman your wife,
      So from my personal point of view,
      Get an ugly girl to marry you.

      A pretty woman makes her husband look small
      And very often causes his downfall.
      As soon as he marries her
      Then she starts to do
      The things that will break his heart.
      But if you make an ugly woman your wife,
      You’ll be happy for the rest of your life,
      An ugly woman cooks her meals on time,
      She’ll always give you peace of mind.

      CC

      January 26, 2011 at 9:44 am

      • I forgot this:

        One problem with implementing my above comment is that the rates of female narcissism have skyrocketed in the last few decades. 10, 15 or 20 years ago, a plain woman would’ve been happy to marry an average guy with a stable job … now, plain women are more likely to think that they’re “too good for an ordinary relationship,” as psychologist Michael Broder says in Lori Gottleib’s book “Marry Him.”

        CC

        January 26, 2011 at 10:07 am


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