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Feminism’s Terrible Blunder, or
Want to “Have It All”?  Then Don’t Do It Backwards
By John Ross

There’s been a fair amount of discussion on “career women,” and the value of educating our daughters so that they can succeed in the fields that were once populated only by men.  I don’t fall into the “Women should just stay home and have babies” camp, because a woman shouldn’t do that if she doesn’t want to. I have no problem at all with women who want to climb the corporate ladder, pursue careers in traditionally male fields, etc.

I also agree with something a woman friend said in a discussion of men and women, that an intelligent and educated woman is a better choice for a wife, both for the genes that she splits with her husband and passes along to their children, as well as being a more interesting mate to talk to and be with.

What I see as the fundamental problem with women pursuing careers is the near-universal assumption these women make: That they will be able to “pencil in” a suitable husband at whatever point that they decide it’s time to marry and have kids. That is a very dangerous assumption, because it’s seldom true, and I’ll explain why.

Some time ago (15 years?) the Wall Street Journal had one of those human interest stories they run regularly. I wish I could dig it up to get the details exactly right, but I well remember the salient points:

The story was about a woman, never married, who had risen to the top of some fairly big company. As I recall, it wasn’t Fortune 500 size, but it was big and she had done a great job at directing the company’s growth and making it successful. In the process, she herself had amassed a seven-figure net worth, with an annual income of a half-million or so.

She was 46, as I recall, and couldn’t find a suitable man to date and marry. The article chronicled her attempts to rectify this situation, including her hiring an expensive service in NYC that specialized in matching up busy executives with suitable mates.

The service matched her up with some men, but none were much interested. This woman seemed amazed (and despondent) that the male executives the service fixed her up with (and that she was attracted to) weren’t much interested in seeing her a second time. There had been a couple of men that wanted to see her again, but their incomes were a small fraction of hers and she didn’t want much to do with them as she viewed them as not being successful.

The lady theorized that the men who weren’t interested were “intimidated by a strong woman,” and lamented that male executives had fragile egos, and needed doormats for mates, etc. It was a fairly detailed article.

Shortly thereafter, the letters section printed reader’s responses to this article, and one guy nailed the situation dead-center.

He said the woman was failing to see the basic economic principle of comparative advantage, on which all successful trade, commerce, and business is based. He wrote that he was surprised such a financially savvy person was apparently oblivious to what was so obvious to him.

Comparative advantage means you are most valuable to someone who needs what you have, because without you, they can’t have it. Florida can sell oranges and orange juice at a profit to people here in Missouri, even after paying shipping costs, because orange trees won’t grow here, and so if we want orange juice with breakfast, we have to get it from them.

Comparative advantage also says that you should concentrate your time and energy on that which rewards you the most highly, to the point of hiring others to do work that you may even be better at than they are.

Example: A neurosurgeon who happens to be a world-record typist that can type 200 words per minute is still better off hiring a 60 wpm stenographer to transcribe his notes, because there are lots of stenographers who’ll work for less than $20 an hour, and his time is better spent doing more neurosurgeries which pay hundreds of times that rate.

The letter-writer’s point was that the woman executive in the article was failing to grasp this economic fact. The male executives weren’t “afraid of strong women,” they weren’t interested because this woman didn’t offer them anything they didn’t already have.  They already had lots of money. They already had financial and business success.

The letter-writer pointed out that the men who had shown interest were the ones that were younger and hadn’t had the business success that she had. They were attracted to her because she offered what they didn’t have. Unfortunately, the woman executive didn’t grasp this, and for some reason didn’t see that her situation made her much more attractive to pool boys than to Lee Iacocca.

This is the great tragedy of feminism: The so-called women’s movement has encouraged women to get specialized education and pursue careers right out of school. Feminists have said over and over that women can succeed at any business endeavor a man can.  THIS IS TRUE.  But what makes this message so damaging:  Saying it over and over to young women has distracted them from remembering (or realizing) that they have a tremendous comparative advantage over men. This comparative advantage is their ability to have children, and it exists for only part of their lives.

If a woman doesn’t particularly want to bear children, fine. But almost all of the young women I meet do have a strong maternal instinct and say they definitely want kids. Why don’t they realize that their youth and ability to bear children are expiring assets? Why are they doing what you can do at any time (work in a business) during the only time they possess those valuable assets?

What if a recent college graduate who was the star pitcher for his college baseball team told you that he intended to play Major League professional baseball, but not until after he’d gotten his law degree and had established a successful law practice? You’d think he was crazy, yet women do the equivalent every day.

Here’s a radical idea for the women who want to “have it all”: Do it in the logical order, which is the reverse of what you’ve been doing.

Whether or not a woman’s youth and fertility are her most valuable assets, they are inarguably expiring assets. They are like a $200 voucher for a private eating establishment that declines by $10 every month you don’t use it. If you don’t ever want to eat at that place, fine, let the voucher expire.

But if one of your life’s goals is to fully experience that eating establishment, use your voucher early.

There are women I know personally who do “have it all,” in both my and their opinion. In all cases, these women married and had their children early, i.e. youngest child born when the mother was 25 or younger. Once all the children were in school, these women entered the work force, at least part-time. When the kids were old enough to start looking out for themselves, i.e. in college or at least driving, the mothers became serious about a career.

In one case, the woman went to law school and is now a successful lawyer. Because she had her kids early, her body recovered easily, and at age 49 she has two grandchildren and looks like one of those hot 30-year-old woman lawyers on a TV series. Getting her law degree at a later age didn’t hurt her skill level or ability to find work: she was my lawyer in my divorce and she couldn’t have been better. I think her husband is one of the luckiest men alive.

Another woman had her first child at age 19 and then twins two or three years later. When the kids were all in school, she started working part-time. At one point she worked in a consignment shop, and felt the owner was making some bad business decisions. At around age 45, with the kids out of college, she opened her own consignment shop. Now, a little over a decade later, she’s making almost $200,000 a year and looks great.

A third had two children by age 24.  After they were in high school, when she was 38 or so, she got her real estate agent’s license.  Now she’s about 55 or so and making well over $100,000 a year.  Do I need to tell you she is great-looking?

Which of the career paths listed below makes more sense?:

1.  Focus on career right out of school, have recreational sex with pleasant male companions your own age, be on the success track for 10-15 years, then panic when you realize you want children but you don’t want to derail your career, your looks are starting to fade compared to the twentysomethings, there aren’t any men that seem interested in marrying you, and in any event, you’re running out of time,

or

2.  After high school or during college, focus on finding a man about 10 years older who has established himself in the last decade and who wants a family.  Use your youth, looks, and fertility to find the best possible man for the role of Husband and Father.  Have children at a young age, soon after you finish your schooling, while you have lots of energy and your body will recover quickly.  Be there for the kids when they need you, and let your husband do the financial lifting.  Be good to both the kids and your husband, and be thinking about what your career dreams are while caring for your family.  Talk to your husband about these dreams.  Tell him you don’t want to just sit around the house at age 40-45.  Then go after your dream, once the kids are of majority age.  You’ve still got a few good decades left, plenty of time for career success.

Many women who pursue careers find they don’t like it nearly as much as they expected.  Far fewer women have children and then wish they hadn’t.  Why not do the kid thing first, while your body is primed for it, and start a career later in life?

You can start a new business at any age.  I started a new venture at age 46–I set up a shooting school.  Now, two years later, it’s very successful and continues to grow, showing every indication of becoming the major force in my regional market.

Think a shooting school doesn’t count, because it’s not going to be big enough to be a real “career”?  Then try this one: A 65-year-old man living on Social Security with a used car and a love of cooking drove around the Southeast in the 1950s, cooking samples of food to persuade restaurant owners to buy his special blend of seasonings.  When he made enough money from spice sales and found a financial backer, he opened his own little restaurant, selling one kind of food made with his blend of seasonings.  It was successful, so he licensed others to open similar establishments.  When he died 25 years later at age 90, Colonel Harlan Sanders left behind his legacy: Kentucky Fried Chicken, now KFC.

A man who wants a family can’t have it without a woman.  He would prefer a young, fertile one.  She will have the energy to keep up with kids, and her body will recover quickly from pregnancy and childbirth.  Men know that a woman’s sex drive and looks decline.  We’d like to start with one where the decline hasn’t already gone on for a couple decades.

A woman who wants both a career and children faces a number of problems if she gets on the career track first, and intends to marry and have kids later.  First, since men are good at earning money, we don’t much care about your income level–that old comparative advantage thing.  We want your youth, looks, and fertility–we’ve already got the money thing covered.  Get to be 35 and still single and you’ll find that the men who want to get married want to do so because they want to have kids.  Thus, they want someone in the peak of her reproductive years, not the end of them.  Second, if you do find a husband, becoming a mother around age 40 means being an old woman for most of your children’s adult life.  When your kids grow up, wouldn’t it be nice to be young enough to still do active things with them for a decade or two?  And what if after 12-15 years of the career track, you realize you’re burnt out?  Now what?  Quit work to get married?  What sane man wants a 35-year-old woman who has decided she doesn’t like working?

Last of all, if you marry a man 10-15 years older, and start your career after the kids are grown or at least able to drive, your husband is likely to be very supportive of your dreams.  Men are very loyal to those who are good to us.  If you’ve been a great wife and mother, we are going to applaud your wanting to get out of the house and bring in some income.  We’re going to be thrilled if you replace some or all of the family savings that were drained when the tuition bills came due.  We’re going to be proud of you making a financial success of yourself, so that you now truly “have it all.”  We’d love to retire and play golf or whatever, and admire your success.

And if you decide the career track isn’t for you after a few years (or a decade), we won’t be upset.  You can quit at age 45 or 50 and do something part-time and your husband will never have any complaints.  You let him have a wonderful family, were a great wife, and a wonderful mother to his children.

But going the career track first is very dangerous in that it completely wastes much or all of a woman’s major asset of fertility and youth.

Angela Fiori put it succinctly in her excellent piece Feminism’s Third Wave:

Feminism proclaimed that for women to be fulfilled, they had to adopt the career ambitions of workaholic men, the sexual promiscuity of John F. Kennedy, and the cynicism of Gloria Steinem (the pre-married one, that is).

Can you think of any demographic group other than women who would have bought into this prescription for complete disaster and then cried “victim” when the Bunker Buster of Inevitable Biology crashed through the roof and blew up in their faces? Think Wile E. Coyote. No, think of someone much dumber.

It’s obviously too late for any childless career women out there in their 30s.  The people that need to understand are today’s high school- and college-age women who want a career and a family.

If you have multiple goals, and achieving one of them requires that you do it before a certain expiration date, work on that one first.  Duh.

John Ross 8/30/2005

Reader Comments:

One question: what advice would you give to your high-school aged daughter (if you have or had one) regarding this issue in terms of career selection?

Good question. She’s 12 now and obviously doesn’t know what area interests her most.

My advice is usually generic. For example, make life choices that DON’T close important doors. Make choices that create future opportunities.

The more specialized one’s knowledge, the more limited one’s earning opportunities. A man who is good with his hands and has a good set of tools can get work anywhere. A lawyer who specializes in a particular area of the tax code may have a much higher income, but I guarantee that he has massively higher overhead, or his employer does, and that means he either is trapped being a wage slave, or in danger of being replaced by a harder worker.

I would urge my daughter to do things that will create opportunities and safety nets for her. One such example might be to get a teaching credential along with her college education. Public schools in Missouri pay well and have GREAT retirement benefits, but you need the piece of paper.

I will encourage her to think like a small business owner: How can I keep my overhead down and maximize my ability to take advantage of opportunities? How can I use my talents?

I personally have always been uncomfortable having all my income come from a single source. What if it goes away? Wouldn’t it be better if only some of it could stop at any given moment? Wouldn’t it be nice if one venture marketed the others? Students who like my shooting school and readers who like my writing often decide they like the way my mind works and thus want to do business with my investment firm.

I won’t specifically advise my daughter to marry and have kids early, I will instead get her thinking about the issue and understand the logical implications and consequences of whatever choices she makes.

Another man asked:

Outside of sex and being a mother for the kids, what would an older man have in common with a 20 year old? I would have to believe that a large part of a successful relationship, (i.e. “an interesting mate to talk and be with”) relies on common interests, intellect, and respect. Without those, the marriage will also likely fail. Another thought, if you marry her when she’s 20, and you’re 35, when she’s 35, you will be 50. Women are sexually shallow too, it’s a bad match, and she will probably cheat on you for something younger.

I think you’re falling into what I call the “soul mate myth” thinking trap. We imagine a woman that shares all our interests, knowledge areas, and dreams.

That generally doesn’t exist.

A more productive path would be to focus on finding a young woman with similar values, i.e. saver vs spender. Core values are usually instilled in childhood, and don’t change.

Perhaps it is men that should start thinking of women as raw material. We know they’re going to change, so get a young one and help her intellect and worldview change for the better.

Would I marry a 20-year-old?  Not now, at 48. I’m done having kids, and kids are the only reason for a successful man to get married. But 15 years ago, at 33? If she had a decent IQ, was a saver and not a spender, and was a voracious reader, I’d likely still be happily married. Now she’d be 35. Cheat on me at age 35 because I was too old, at 48?  Where have you been living?  35-year-old single women are desperate.  A 35-year-old married one with a 48-year-old husband and kids in high school, thinking about what her career was going to be in a few years, would be smiling at me every day.

This whole thing of women waiting longer to have kids has been an overall downer for them and a big part of the problem. They wake up in their 30s childless, and they see their options disappearing. No wonder they’re so unpleasant.

I know a few women who married VERY young, 14 and 15. The 14-year-old married the owner of a local Dog ‘n’ Suds where she had a part-time job. The 15-year-old married a 23-year-old man who owns a gun store and is a talented gunsmith. Both marriages have lasted over 35 years. The women are both over 50, and both have income-producing businesses they run out of their houses. When I see these women with their husbands, both genders are always smiling.

I think both these women may have woken up one morning in their late 30s and thought something like, “Hey, the kids are going to be out of the house soon, and I’m not even 40 yet! I’ve got a lot of good years left, and I don’t want to just watch soaps and get fat. I think I’ll talk to my husband about that catering business I’ve always dreamed of starting.”

I have carried on recent conversations with college girls, and if they’re well-read, they’re much more interesting to talk to than women my age who don’t like to read.  Easier on the eyes, too…

And a woman asked:

What’s to prevent the man from “trading up,” and leaving you a single mom?  In the marry-young-and-pop-‘em-out scenario, now the woman is left with less work experience, less education=less opportunities to take care of herself.

Also, how are these young girls going to find the older men?  They wouldn’t really travel in the same circles, or have the same interests.

A successful 30-year-old man probably became successful by sticking to his word. Women don’t understand what breaking our word feels like to most men.

Yes, him dumping her for a “better model” could happen, but it’s not likely. Why? She IS the better model–she’s young, and she’s the mother of his children!  Since men initiate divorce only a third as often as women, this fear is misplaced.  More likely, she would use the divorce laws to cash out, and he should be worried about that.  And I don’t advocate cutting the young woman’s education short, education is very important for her.

And lastly, men will meet younger women where we’ve always met them: Everywhere.  And if more high school and college women read this article, decided it made sense, and started thinking this way, they’d start putting themselves in positions to meet men about ten years older.  They’d tell their older brothers, cousins, and other family members that they wanted a career path that would give them a family first, when their bodies and energy levels were best able to take it, and careers starting when the kids were almost old enough to vote.  Boys their own age may not be ready to shoulder the responsibilities of heading a family, but men a decade older who have never married and have established themselves, have.

Copyright 2005 by John Ross.  Electronic reproduction of this article freely permitted provided it is reproduced in its entirety with attribution given

Written by dontmarry

January 22, 2009 at 4:52 am

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  1. “35-year-old single women are desperate. A 35-year-old married one with a 48-year-old husband and kids in high school, thinking about what her career was going to be in a few years, would be smiling at me every day.”

    Who says 35 year old single women are desperate? Some 35 year old single women are enjoying their lives, careers, freedom, and still-tight and youthful bodies due to not having children. I think some men just want to believe that all 35 year old single women are desperate, because the thought of a 35 year old single woman who is happy without a man is ego-shattering to them. It means these women really don’t really need a man to have a fulfilling, happy life – and if this is the case, how relevant are you? Men who are this insecure just know that they have nothing else to offer other than a body part that can get women pregnant, so women who have no interest in getting pregnant make these men feel useless.

    I haven’t even hit 30 yet, but I would rather be a 35 year old single woman than a “35-year-old married one with a 48-year-old husband and kids in high school.” In the latter case, she got married at 20, when she was in her prime, to a much older man who was in physical and sexual decline and got saddled with his kids, throwing her entire life away in the process. “what her career was going to be in a few years” – seriously? No INTELLIGENT woman in this situation would be “smiling” at her husband every day. She would be resenting him every day for sucking away her youth, her looks, and her potential. For making her throw away her education, talents, and abilities and waste her young years being his servant and popping out his babies.

    Men who are shallow enough to only want a young woman should understand that women have the exact same right to be shallow. As such, most young women have no interest in men who are 10 to 15 years older.

    Teri

    November 30, 2013 at 4:42 pm

    • Not all 35 year old women are desperate just the vast majority, ignoring the majority truth and trying to highlight individual experience is a common feminist tactic used to disguise the truth of an issue.

      Jason

      January 4, 2014 at 12:15 am

      • Like you haven’t done the exact same thing multiple times here – generalizing your preferences and what you want in a woman to the entire male population. When the truth is that I don’t know one man who thinks the way you do. But of course, I stay out of places where people marry their cousins, so that’s probably why I’m not exposed to this faction of the population and their ignorance.

        Nikki

        January 4, 2014 at 12:52 am

        • Generalizations are based on majority perception and facts. The fact that marriage rates are dropping for Western women is FACT, and its men who are opting out. Be a feminist and be alone. We all have rights and choices. We don’t have rednecks in Australia sorry, pathetic attempts at personal insults. I smell bitter feminist.

          Jason Picton

          January 4, 2014 at 4:30 am

  2. http://healthland.time.com/2013/04/11/too-old-to-be-a-dad/

    Men’s old sperm causes just as much or more problems in kids than mother’s’ old eggs. MEN ARE NOT IMMUNE TO AGING AND DETERIORATION.

    Phoebe

    December 17, 2013 at 1:19 pm

  3. No thats false, if you compare relevant equal ages, a man is far less likely to impact on a childs health, a woman is born with x amount of eggs, sperm is produced fresh daily and delivered to all parts of a womans body, porn proves that, but the age of the eggs and the failing body of the aging female has huge impact the outcome of a babies health.

    Spare us the lil femnazi insults hahahahhaa

    John

    February 11, 2014 at 6:04 am

    • LOL these aren’t feminazi insults – these are true insults directed at you, as you have shown that you are of very low intelligence and shouldn’t be having children no matter how old you are. The human population doesn’t need to be dumbed down any more than it has been.

      Yeah, we should all believe some douche with the handle “John,” who can’t even read or understand anything, over medical professionals and a TIME article. HAHAHA!! You use PORN as your evidence (which doesn’t even make sense by the way, how is sperm distribution shown in porn?) and expect people to take you seriously?

      Sperm is delivered to all parts of a woman’s body? So it gets in her hands, feet, brain, etc.? Fucking moron, LOL.

      As shown in the article, which I understand now that you just don’t have the intelligence or capacity to understand, the very fact that sperm is freshly produced throughout a man’s life is precisely what LEADS to birth defects, because the mutations keep accumulating over time as new sperm is produced.

      Teri

      February 11, 2014 at 11:14 am

      • No ur just an angry lil feminist, lets take your arguments apart, well most are just rants.

        ” these are true insults directed at you, as you have shown that you are of very low intelligence and shouldn’t be having children no matter how old you are. ”

        Nothing more than an angry pers attack, easy to illicit.

        ” The human population doesn’t need to be dumbed down any more than it has been.”

        So superior males hsould be bedding the majority of women to increase the IQ? Agreed glad you support the right of males to practice Polygamy. Men deserve more than one women in HIS household.

        “You use PORN as your evidence ”

        No Porn was used. FAIL

        “Sperm is delivered to all parts of a woman’s body? So it gets in her hands, feet, brain, etc.? Fucking moron, LOL.”

        Yes most women love cum all over them, hence it is such a popular practice in society.

        “which I understand now that you just don’t have the intelligence or capacity to understand”

        Again just a bitter bite that shows personal attack,

        “the very fact that sperm is freshly produced throughout a man’s life is precisely what LEADS to birth defects, because the mutations keep accumulating over time as new sperm is produced.”

        No science shows that mutations are generally fatal and rarely improvements, hence the problems proving Evolutionary theory actually works. So mutation do not increase and increase, they occur and fade. But a womans eggs age and age much like her outside causing men of all ages to rightfully shun the older woman. The invisible women as they are called by that stage.

        I understand that women are not happy about the FACT that they are defined and valued in nature and society by their ability to reproduce which is directly linked declining age, I am sure they want to be valued for more than that, but they are not. A barren woman is nothing more than a useful worker drone, but never elevated in society.

        Cheers

        Jason Picton

        February 11, 2014 at 9:07 pm

        • “No Porn was used. FAIL”

          Yes, he mentioned porn as evidence of sperm being distributed, which made no sense whatsoever. I wasn’t responding to you.

          “Yes most women love cum all over them, hence it is such a popular practice in society.”

          LOL what the fuck does this have to do with ANYTHING anyone was talking about?

          “No science shows that mutations are generally fatal and rarely improvements, hence the problems proving Evolutionary theory actually works. So mutation do not increase and increase, they occur and fade.”

          Oh, now you’re an expert on science? HAHAHA! I have a graduate degree in biology, so I have forgotten more about mutations and genetics than you will ever know. And no, mutations are not “generally fatal” – the average person has about 60 new mutations in their DNA that were not present in previous generations. And mutations most definitely do not “occur and fade” – they accumulate over time as new cells are produced. Just like the article said. You know, the ARTICLE, actual EVIDENCE, which you have failed to provide for your position over and over.

          “I understand that women are not happy about the FACT that they are defined and valued in nature and society by their ability to reproduce which is directly linked declining age, I am sure they want to be valued for more than that, but they are not.”

          No, they are. Not by you, but what you fail to realize is that not everyone thinks like you. Using your logic, I could just as easily say that men are only valued for how much money they make and how successful they are, but this isn’t true either. Any intelligent person understands that human beings are more than that. When a female doctor saves your pathetic excuse for a life, let’s see you say women are only good for making babies then.

          “A barren woman is nothing more than a useful worker drone, but never elevated in society.”

          Actually, some of the women who never had children are the ones who are most remembered by society. A woman who lived only to stay at home and have children will be forgotten as soon as any children and grandchildren who knew her die. A woman who cured a disease or invented something useful will be remembered forever. It’s the stay-at-home women who will never be “elevated in society.” And if that’s their choice, that’s their choice, but it doesn’t apply to everyone.

          Teri

          February 12, 2014 at 11:21 am

          • Damn I have the hooks in deep.

            I mentioned cum ends up in every part of a woman’s body, you made the Porn link, I replied to that.

            Keep trying.

            Just remember when the vast majority of men reject feminism that’s their choice too.

            You look down on stay at home mothers, you think its only the idiot feminists who are valued, LOL, only by other narcissistic fembo’s LOL.

            Just listen the the replies from Teri guys, brainwashed feminist 101.

            “A woman who cured a disease or invented something useful will be remembered forever.”

            Nah, problem is men invented 98% of everything :)

            Why is feminism so unpopular now, less than 17% of women identify with it, it is what is making 3rd wavers so angry and then they rant crazier shit everyday that only fuels the numbers of women walking away from a failed concept. If feminism had of stuck to equality issues it may have survived, but its a dinosaur.

            Is it any surprise that Teri is a UNI-stupid hahahaha

            Jason Picton

            February 12, 2014 at 5:07 pm

    • LOL the very article you used to SUPPORT your stance says clearly that there’s an excellent chance of delivering a healthy baby close to 40. That’s how fucking stupid you are – this is really entertaining! You can’t even read your own evidence!

      And again, again, again, NO ONE said older mothers don’t lead to higher risks of birth defects, just that older fathers do too. AM I SPEAKING SLOWLY ENOUGH FOR YOU? DO I NEED TO USE SMALLER WORDS?

      Teri

      February 11, 2014 at 11:17 am

      • No you stated that men have a greater impact on the health of the baby than women based on ages, the fact is once a woman has reached her 40s or 50s and in no longer productive, she is really not a woman anymore in the biologically relevant sense, she is just a dried hush, this however never applies to men, they are always a chance to reproduce.

        A aging female is the greatest risk to a baby, and eventually she becomes redundant when she can birth no more.

        Yeah try and play the entertainment card, next you will be a troll,fact is you I am owning you and you would rather I just shut up, feminists hate nothing more than a male who will just not submit to their agenda or kowtowing tactics.

        Women at 40 have an excellent chance of healthy babies, but younger women generally have a far better one, SO who would want a old 30-40 year old hag when they could get young.

        Women have a used by date and they dont like that FACT :)

        Jason Picton

        February 11, 2014 at 8:56 pm

        • “No you stated that men have a greater impact on the health of the baby than women based on ages”

          No, I didn’t. If you were remotely literate, you would see that all I said was that evidence points to older fathers being just as responsible, not MORE responsible.

          “the fact is once a woman has reached her 40s or 50s and in no longer productive, she is really not a woman anymore in the biologically relevant sense, she is just a dried hush, this however never applies to men, they are always a chance to reproduce.”

          The “not a woman” comment is just what you need to believe to feel superior, and it’s quite pathetic. And again, men SHOULD NOT be reproducing at older ages, whether they can or not.

          “A aging female is the greatest risk to a baby”

          Again, this is bullshit until proven true. You say this over and over and have failed every time to provide evidence of any sort.

          “and eventually she becomes redundant when she can birth no more.”

          No, she’s still a person. I’m sorry that your life is so useless that you think that having kids is the only purpose in life, but that’s not true for everyone.

          “Women at 40 have an excellent chance of healthy babies, but younger women generally have a far better one, SO who would want a old 30-40 year old hag when they could get young.”

          Considering that women who have babies at 40 have babies with birth defects only 1% of the time, there really isn’t much room for a “far better” chance for younger women. And 30 is not a “hag” but still a relatively young woman. Funny that YOU are in your 40s and you call a 40 year old woman a hag – what the hell do you think you are? A stud? Nope, sorry. Does your wife know you think of her as a hag?

          “fact is you I am owning you and you would rather I just shut up”

          Any intelligent person reading this, take a look at this string of words. It isn’t even a coherent phrase. And no, I would rather you keep going, because it is really entertaining how you continue to make an absolute ass of yourself. You’re like a broken record, playing the same stupidity over and over. You think you’re owning me – HAHAHAHAHAHA!

          “Women have a used by date”

          I would say no, that’s you – but you’ve likely always been useless, so it wouldn’t apply.

          Teri

          February 12, 2014 at 10:58 am

          • Come on baby do what daddy wants, keep biting :)

            Owning you :)

            Jason Picton

            February 12, 2014 at 5:08 pm

          • My wife is asian and younger than me, and asian’s look much younger than their actual age. :)

            Seems teri is the only “hag” on here today :)

            Jason Picton

            February 12, 2014 at 6:14 pm

  4. I am sensing a bit of bitter feminist rhetoric on the board from Teri hahahaha

    Older women can be useful as dump and goes however, hence we invented the cougar concept to trick women into being cum traps.

    Jason Picton

    February 11, 2014 at 9:38 pm

  5. Welcome aboard all the feminists, its called the Man drought and all women are paying for what you have created.

    Jason Picton

    February 11, 2014 at 9:57 pm

  6. Yeah yeah, no one s as stupid as a feminist, suck it up white girls hahahaha

    Jason Picton

    February 12, 2014 at 10:05 am

    • LOL I”m not white. Why would you make that assumption? All you’re doing with every word is showing what an unbelievable retard you are.

      “no one s as stupid as a feminist”

      No, no one’s as stupid as you.

      Teri

      February 12, 2014 at 10:46 am

      • Sex in the City is just a show, very few feminists ever end up happy or with a man, just suck it up girls, you are reaping what you sow, the Census data is predicting more man drought for bitchy western women. :)

        Jason Picton

        February 12, 2014 at 4:58 pm

        • “very few feminists ever end up happy or with a man”

          Again, evidence? Statistics? Support? A feminist is someone who believes that men and women should be treated equally – so apparently this dooms them to being alone. What a crock!

          Teri

          February 12, 2014 at 5:17 pm

          • No that would be equality, feminism is about female supremacy and the nanny state, women are only trading their husband for the state as a provider. Feminism is Marxist Lesbianism. But hey they conned you easily enough I see.

            google MAN DROUGHT and look at the falling marriage rates or MEN ON STRIKE :)

            Jason Picton

            February 12, 2014 at 5:34 pm

      • OMG a typo, gee that showed me, I will keep this cunt on here forever, I love it when I come across a botch who must have the last word hahahahahaa

        Jason Picton

        February 12, 2014 at 4:59 pm

        • Um, assuming I’m “white” is not a typo – are you really that stupid?? I mean, I knew you were a retard, but DAMN! :)

          Nah, I don’t need to have the last word – I just think stupid people should be put in their place. And I notice that you didn’t come up with one single argument against anything I said, you just came back with more trash talk.

          And I saw you said in an earlier post that you make 6 figures a year – LOL! Dribbling, drooling retards who can’t even put together a coherent sentence don’t make that money…and 6 figures is not impressive when you’re talking about lira, yen, pesos, etc. HAHAHA!

          If the alternative is to end up with a man like you, I think most women would prefer to stay single.

          Teri

          February 12, 2014 at 5:21 pm

          • Learn to read, it was not a comment about white it was about “one s”

            Damn i have you angry, taxes from fools like you give me that 6 figure income. I am Australian so my 6 figures is in dollars.

            But that does not matter as you seem to live on here, so this should be fun.

            Feminists like you, which I have so easily shown and exposed just how bitter a feminist you are, rarely have to worry about getting married.

            Be whatever you want but men do not support feminism in general, and most women don’t now either :)

            Jason Picton

            February 12, 2014 at 5:26 pm

  7. Poor babies hahahaha

    Jason Picton

    February 12, 2014 at 5:31 pm

  8. Now these are the facts, YES you can be a feminist but understand that what you support and believe others do not have to support or endorse. Men have a right to marry whoever they want whenever they want within the law. So just face the cats that very few men want a feminist woman in their life, let alone one as a wife. Feminists thought there would be no push back and men would just accept the feminist agenda.

    Well we will not.

    So feminists can do what they want and men will do what they want with their life.

    Jason Picton

    February 12, 2014 at 6:11 pm

  9. Evil misogynist sitting styles, fuck me Swedish Feminist are off the planet, no wonder feminism is dying.

    Jason Picton

    February 12, 2014 at 7:46 pm

  10. Still so many bitter fem-slut biters on here. Sucks to be a lonely rejected white girl I am guessing :)

    Jason

    February 24, 2014 at 4:35 am

    • Not nearly as much as it sucks to be a bitter, misogynistic old man who needs to believe that women lose all value at age 30 to feel good about himself. Probably because he has absolutely NOTHING REAL going for him. LOSER.

      Phoebe

      May 22, 2014 at 4:51 pm

      • Bwaaahhhhh
        Ok I retired at 36, financially independent, married, two kids, houses in Australia and Thailand, live between both, why would I be bitter.

        The fact women lose value after 30 is a fact it impacts me not at all and does not make me feel good or bad.

        Wow, calling me a loser, that’s so hurtful, bwaaaahhhhhhh

        Jason

        May 22, 2014 at 9:35 pm

        • I know you think that having money means you have it all and no reason to be bitter, but no. That’s the thought process of a very simple person (you) right there. The fact is that if you really felt good about your life, you wouldn’t feel the need to frequent forums like this and put down women of a certain age. You’d just be living your happy life and not feel the need to talk trash about anyone. Happy, fulfilled people do not feel the need to bash others.

          And “The fact women lose value after 30″ – it is not a fact, it is your OPINION. And it will remain your opinion until you can provide scientific proof that it is a fact – since you are making the claim, the onus is on you to provide support for it. And you may also want to provide proof that men do not go down in value after 30 – even though logically we both know that men age too. Fertility does not determine a person’s worth, and it is a very sad, shallow person who thinks it does. And how do your mother and wife feel knowing that you see them as depreciating assets rather than people?

          Calling you a loser was just calling it as I saw it. Winners don’t generally have to put down a whole group of people to validate themselves. If you really had such a great life, you wouldn’t have even felt the need to describe it to me and justify yourself. You may be telling the truth about all those things, but there is still something sorely lacking in you that causes you to behave this way, like it or not.

          Phoebe

          May 25, 2014 at 11:08 pm

          • Lets take this long rant apart.

            Yes I have everything in life that most want. FACT. Yes I am an anti-feminist, not anti-female, but the Western Female is the most infected with feminist hate ideology, so I have concluded they are too far gone to bother with. also the system in the West of Marriage/Divorce/Children/Child Support etc is all biased against men, hence I lobby and educate men against involvement with western women in general.

            Women losing their value after age 30 is FACT based on the many problems they themselves complain about, i.e. men increasingly not interested in anything long term with them, men not interest marriage and children with them, men being able to get younger women under 30 who still have value.

            Your flaw is that you require men to value things other than the things the majority of men seek in a female. So your only option is to try to change men’s thinking by shaming or guilt trips. Well that is not working. Just google the falling marriage rates and also more importantly the data by gender of those desiring relationship/marriage. Far more women are still seeking that, but for men its not a very good deal especially with a feminist indoctrinated Western female.

            Men’s value generally goes up as they age primarily because their wealth and power go up, and men are less restricted by age in regards to reproduction. So women in their 20’s will more happily bed down with a more powerful older male in his 30-40’s we see it all the time. Women generally marry someone older and taller than themselves and 97% of the time better off than them. Female Hypergamy. The bitter pill that feminists women got sold is that they could have career’s and power and money and wait til they had that at an older age, putting career before family and biology, and men would still want them. It is not how it works in the majority. Hence the bitter rhetoric we hear from women.

            A mother has obviously already value because she has reproduced with your father to produce you, that never diminishes, a wife (generally younger, I know mine is by ten years) has also either provide you children or has the potential to provide you with children, so her value is also not declining unless she fails in this task. But a woman’s earnings, power, wealth, whether now or potential is never a real consideration for men. No matter how much you wish it.

            Using the wife or mother rhetoric is a common feminist trait, its shaming language to make you react emotively (a predominant female trait) rather than logically (a predominant male trait). Feminist’s love to argue like this on similar topics like Prostitution bring in the “it could be your sister or mother” argument even when it has no rational in the topic.

            Lets have a look at a few of your comments for analysis:

            “Calling you a loser was just calling it as I saw it.” – mere opinion tainted with anger and lashing out.

            “Winners don’t generally have to put down a whole group of people to validate themselves.” –

            Yet this exactly what feminists do when defending their views and rights, they attack men and the patriarchy that they claim it supports. Its no different.

            ” You may be telling the truth about all those things, but there is still something sorely lacking in you that causes you to behave this way, like it or not.” –

            No nothing is missing I am an anti-feminist and will never stop opposing feminism nor stop educating and warning men against involvement with such women or western women in general. You saying something is missing in my life, is an attempt at shaming language, it is designed to try and make me want to stop or else somehow complete your self serving prophecy. These tactics do not work on men.

            So no we are not going to just shut up and let you con our brothers so you can get what you want in YOUR life, career and agenda. Men are not going to just step up when it suits you and you know want a family and children, its not our responsibility nor obligation. We will turn as many men against the ideology of feminism, which even feminists admit it is now. We will take away your resource of men who blindly “man-up” and sacrifice himself at your alter. We will oppose and destroy Feminism as sure as we would any other corrupt ideology like Communism or Fascism.

            I hope that explains why I am not going away and why I present these facts of life and male/female immutable nature.

            Jason

            May 25, 2014 at 11:47 pm

            • Bravo! well said. Glad to know men are finally waking up and realizing that women really do not bring anything to a relationship except a well worn, used (and possibly diseased) vagina.

              Tom Joad

              June 19, 2014 at 3:23 pm

              • Yes what I really do enjoy is seeing arrogant self entitled femi-nazi Ozzie gals missing out in life in regards to a stable male partner. They reap what they have sown.

                Jason

                June 21, 2014 at 7:43 am

                • Amen. They made their own bed. Now they have to sleep in it. Alone.
                  LOL
                  Thanks goodness there are actually some (very few but some) real women who are fighting against feminists ruining their chances.

                  Anonymous

                  June 23, 2014 at 1:57 am

  11. This article is 100% true. The Internet and social media is littered, positively littered, with the human wreckage of 30-40 year old never-married women, kids or no kids, who just can’t seem to find a man for the long-term/marriage situation that they want. Men who are in their 30-40-50 are either already married, been burned by divorce and don’t want to remarry, or are dating women in their 20’s. Women like to blame men, call is insecure, shallow, something-something-ego remark, etcetc. But the reality is, even a 40 year old man doesn’t want to marry and start a family with a 40 year old woman. He’d rather do it with a 30 year old woman – and if he can, a 20 year old woman. vOv

    You can’t insult men over this – because I can’t think of many women who would get excited about marrying a store clerk.

    Justin C

    June 19, 2014 at 12:39 pm

    • Yep just the hard facts of life, I am sure these lonely women can still find some happiness in life, even if its on their own or in a lesbian collective :)

      Jason

      June 20, 2014 at 12:07 am

    • Nope. That is how SOME men think, but women are better off without these men anyway. I think it’s hilarious that men on these sites think that ALL men think like them, and ALL men want a young woman, when there are same-age couples in their 30s and 40s who get married every day.

      And guess what? Self-respecting women would rather marry a store clerk who is kind, respectful, and has a great personality than a multi-billionaire who talks and thinks like you.

      Why would any woman want a man who simply wants to use her for his own purposes (fertility)? The only women who want men like this are golddiggers who only want a man for his money. And in those cases, well, you deserve each other. Pair off with one another so that decent people who actually want REAL LOVE will not have to deal with you and can more easily find one another.

      Phoebe

      June 20, 2014 at 8:51 pm

      • Self-respecting women would rather marry a store clerk.

        Can you cite statistics for this?
        I can probably dig up a source or two of women who value money over personal traits. A strenuous but noble task lies ahead of me. :D

        Anonymous

        June 21, 2014 at 3:40 am

        • She claims she is better off alone if men will not conform to how she wants life to be, so ALONE is what she will end up with in the end or some feminine mangina type maybe. Anyone who could put up with her feminist agenda is worthy of at a minimum, a salute for that.

          Jason

          June 21, 2014 at 7:38 am

      • Phebes is a dyed in the wool radical feminists, she is quite well know around the internet.

        Yes tries to hide behind the NAWALT defence, however, say NOT ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT only addresses individual incidences, the social and cultural traits bare out what we are saying. She hates this but knows it to be true, she waffles on about true love, but the fact is true love only exists between parents and children, a wife or husband is not blood so is never in the league of true love.

        She hopes her man will love her for more than her body, but in reality men primarily place sexual satisfaction above all else in a female partner, so love will only get you so far but her giving you all those things you desire, be it anal or giving her cum facials, bondage or threesomes etc, thats what will clinch the deal with men.

        Give us what we want or sorry ladies we aint interested.

        Men who marry a woman thei own age are either a) Younger under 30.
        or : b) Men who cannot get a younger girl due to his socio- economic status.

        Any money is these wenches demanding to be appreciated for something other than their body and ability to sexually please a mate are wenches who lack ability to compete in these very same area’s.

        Jason

        June 21, 2014 at 7:36 am

        • LOL I love it when they throw out the “NAWALT” tripe.
          If all women claim not all women are like that, then which wymyn ARE like that? :D
          Besides. who is dumb enough to believe what a woman says about herself and what she wants/likes? Total conflict of interest. It’s like CNN claiming they have good programming and high ratings. It’s not true but they would never say that didn’t would they?

          The wimmenz are not logical minded. That is well understood. So they can’t even conceptualize the universal laws of cause and effect. They expect to have their cake and eat it too in every facet of human existence. You cannot have that mindset and love unconditionally at the same time (true love) it doesn’t work. A woman is not capable of loving a man unconditionally. Full stop. They barely are able to love their own children unconditionally as they are the greatest perpetrators of child abuse, child murder (inside and outside the womb), using children as bargaining chips or means of vengeance against exes, the list goes on.

          Spot on man. Great posts.

          Anonymous

          June 21, 2014 at 8:26 am

          • Yes they are unlikely to tell the truth if they do have some bad traits.

            Jason

            June 21, 2014 at 8:52 am

          • If you hate and disrespect women so much, just date other men. Problem solved.

            Phoebe

            June 24, 2014 at 2:15 pm

            • You confuse exposing Feminism’s faults and warning men against western women as hatred for women.

              Its a typical dishonest feminist assertion.

              Jason

              June 24, 2014 at 7:18 pm

            • Aww poor narcissistic Phlegminist!
              She desperately needs the last word and refuses to take the high road out, but has no ammo left but shame tactics.

              Anonymous

              June 24, 2014 at 8:44 pm

            • If you hate and disrespect men so much, just date other women. Problem solved.

              I love this game! :D

              Anonymous

              June 24, 2014 at 8:49 pm

        • “Give us what we want or sorry ladies we aint interested.”

          Lol I’m sorry, but I don’t care if you’re not interested. I only care if QUALITY men are interested, which they are. Who cares what some low-caliber man on a manosphere forum thinks?

          “Men who marry a woman thei own age are either a) Younger under 30.
          or : b) Men who cannot get a younger girl due to his socio- economic status.”

          Nope. Plenty of men in their 30s and 40s who make more money in a month than you will ever see in your LIFE marry women their own age. Your arrogance is truly astonishing – you really think that every man in the world thinks like you. Brad Pitt, who no doubt at his ugliest would be more attractive than you could be even with an Extreme Makeover, married Jennifer Aniston when she was over 30, and he is now with Angelina Jolie who is pushing 40. If what you were saying was true, men like Brad Pitt and George Clooney would be with 18 year old girls, but they are both with women in their late 30s.

          Phoebe

          June 22, 2014 at 9:11 pm

          • Sounds like sour grapes Phebe’s. If men are so interested why you bothering to come on here to try and stop us destroying white girls dreams? Phebe’s I get 100k a year so not rich and not poor, but i bet its more than you get and I am retired :)

            Rich guys generally get younger or have younger mistresses, plenty of Hollywood actors marry younger, you know it and you hate it :)

            We all love to bang the hard bodied 18 year olds, rather than the chunky monkey over 30’s white gals :)

            Jason

            June 22, 2014 at 10:02 pm

            • “If men are so interested why you bothering to come on here to try and stop us destroying white girls dreams?”

              Because no one has a right to talk to anyone like that, and I’m advocating for women who will come here, read your shit, and feel bad about themselves for no reason. They need to remember to consider the source – an insecure jackass. You keep saying you’re not, but again – and this can actually be proven unlike your dribble – people who are happy in their own lives don’t feel the need to bash others. They just live their happy lives and let others be.

              I’m much younger than you and I make more money than you do, so there goes that.

              I really don’t care who Hollywood actors are marrying. And yeah I’m sure you love to bang 18 year olds, the problem is that they would vomit at the thought of banging your saggy, nasty, stinky old selves. Does your wife know you come online and talk about banging teenagers?

              Phoebe

              June 24, 2014 at 2:20 pm

              • “Because no one has a right to talk to anyone like that,”

                So you limit freedom of speech to that with which you agree only. Nice, I guess you put the Nazi in fem-Nazi.

                “and I’m advocating for women ..”

                And I am advocating for men sick of fulfilling feminist desires and submitting their life to an anti-male agenda.

                ” an insecure jackass.”

                No I have provided the logic and facts, you just hide behind insults and claims that NAWALT, Not All Women Are Like That, you talk about yourself and are scared of generalising, despite the fact we are discussing trends involving Billions of people. Generalisation are valid. Exceptions do not break the rule.

                “people who are happy in their own lives don’t feel the need to bash others.”

                This is ALL feminism does, calling men deadbeat dads while it was them who forced them out of their children’s lives.

                Labeling men who will not conform or submit to feminist agenda as Misogynists or Woman Haters, no we hate feminism, not women in general. However the western white female is in a mindset and social system too far gone and is TOXIC and RISKY for males to be involved in.

                “I’m much younger than you and I make more money than you do, so there goes that.”

                i can get women much younger than you without spending the money you have. Not sure what you hope to achieve by this comment, perhaps a bit of anger coming out, so how much you earn, I get 100k a year before tax, free medical dental etc for life, huge discounts on all things via the Govt as I am a returned veteran, I get all this and do not work. My wife and son (now military too) all earn money and supprt the household, so in reality our family income is about 200k. But its not a pissing competition.

                I am however thankful to all the women out their working as taxes fund my lifestyle.

                My wife is well aware of the nature of men, the fact remains that men prefer younger fit women, and can get them, women on the other hand cannot.
                She finds your comments amusing and understands why western men are rejecting western women in record numbers.

                I suggest listening to Tom Leykis to get a real idea of the shit sandwich feminism sold women.

                Jason

                June 24, 2014 at 7:08 pm

              • “no one has a right to talk to anyone like that”

                Everyone has a right to talk to anyone, anyhow.
                If you’re not a fan of free speech I’d be happy to send you some travel brochures as North Korea is very nice this time of year. :D

                Anonymous

                June 24, 2014 at 8:53 pm

              • And the word is “drivvel” not dribble. :D
                Sorry I can’t help it, I am a grammarist!

                Anonymous

                June 24, 2014 at 8:56 pm

                • I mean drivel* :D
                  Woopsie

                  Anonymous

                  June 24, 2014 at 8:56 pm

              • ” the problem is that they would vomit at the thought of banging your saggy, nasty, stinky old selves”
                Wait until you hit 30 sweetheart. Then we’ll see who’s the sag-bag!

                Anonymous

                June 24, 2014 at 9:00 pm

                • I actually just turned 30. And I hate to disappoint you, but I look every bit as youthful as I did at 18. Funny that you would say it like that – all it probably means is that you have aged so terribly that you assume that anyone will look like shit at 30, but sorry, no, that is just you.

                  Phoebe

                  July 15, 2014 at 4:11 am

                  • LOL yeah sure hahhahahaha

                    Thats GOLD Porky telling Porkies hahahaha

                    Come on cunt try something original atleast, getting bored, you have nothing.

                    Jason P

                    July 15, 2014 at 10:05 am

          • Jennifer Aniston and Angelina Jolie both have money. SO they’re less of a liability. What do you bring to the table sweetcheeks? LOL

            Anonymous

            June 22, 2014 at 10:24 pm

            • She brings her arrogant self entitled feminist attitude, it would be hell living with a cunt like Phebe’s, no wonder husbands suicide lol

              Jason

              June 22, 2014 at 11:10 pm

              • Yes. I am sure she’ll make someone reaaaaaaaaaal happy.
                LOL! :D

                Anonymous

                June 23, 2014 at 1:55 am

            • I bring more to the table than you would bring to any relationship, that’s for sure…

              Phoebe

              June 24, 2014 at 2:21 pm

              • Sure you would, why not share your facebook profile and let us decide?

                I reckon you might disappoint us.

                Jason

                June 24, 2014 at 7:10 pm

                • Ewww, why would I want to share my Facebook profile with a bunch of creepy old MRA pervs?

                  Phoebe

                  July 15, 2014 at 4:13 am

                  • You wouldnt because you are an ugly fat skank :)

                    Jason P

                    July 15, 2014 at 10:04 am

                    • No, I wouldn’t because you are scary, creepy people and I don’t want you knowing my real name or any information about me. And I am none of these: ugly, fat, or skank. That’s just something you’re using as a browbeating tool because you have nothing of substance or value to say.

                      Anonymous

                      July 15, 2014 at 1:37 pm

                    • “No, I wouldn’t because you are scary, creepy people and I don’t want you knowing my real name or any information about me. And I am none of these: ugly, fat, or skank. That’s just something you’re using as a browbeating tool because you have nothing of substance or value to say.”

                      WF LOL standard feminist comeback, if men oppose feminism they must be misogynists, if you cannot out debate them, then just claim you are scared and hope some white knight male or the Police will run to your protection, where did the equal strong tough independent woman go????

                      Bwaahhhhhhhhh

                      Jason P

                      July 16, 2014 at 11:17 pm

              • And I am next in line to the throne.

                See, statements without proof are kinda meaningless, dontcha think?

                Anonymous

                June 24, 2014 at 8:48 pm

          • The vast majority of men think like us Phebe’s, when I am 80 I will still want to bang 18 year olds, accept it women have a shelf life when it comes to physical beauty, so they have to try extra hard to keep a man as they age. Rule number one for that is do not be a feminist, men are just not going to put up with it anymore. We don’t have too.

            Jason

            June 22, 2014 at 11:13 pm

        • So thinking that women deserve respect makes me a “radical feminist”? You are ridiculous. And how am I “well known around the Internet” when I’ve only posted a FEW times on one site?

          Sorry that you don’t understand that true love can exist between people who aren’t related. That just means you haven’t experienced it, and you’re missing out. And so is your wife. It’s only a narcissistic person who can only love someone who shares their blood – I’m guessing you wouldn’t be able to love an adopted child either, which is sad.

          “men primarily place sexual satisfaction above all else in a female partner” – again with the generalizations. All of these things you are saying about ALL men, thinking they all think like you, are BS until you can PROVE it. You say these things over and over again with no proof, and they hold no water at all.

          No woman demands to be appreciated for this or that, or demands that men think a certain way about women. Smart women simply are not interested in men like you who view them as objects, that’s it. I wouldn’t demand that any man change how he sees women, I would just avoid a man whose values are like yours.

          Phoebe

          June 24, 2014 at 2:13 pm

          • People only deserve respect IF they earn it Phebe’s, you have no entitlement to it just because you are a human and female.

            If have been able to find quite a few posts by you on various feminist site/forums.

            Its not that I don’t understand Phebe’s its that true love ONLY exists between relatives, blood is thicker than water, parents will save a child, even an adult child’s life over that of a spouse, its human nature, hard wired. Continuation of your blood line, another spouse can be taken if one perishes. harsh facts but facts none the less.

            “It’s only a narcissistic person who can only love someone who shares their blood – I’m guessing you wouldn’t be able to love an adopted child either, which is sad.”

            I love the anger and how she tries to weave some hatred into it, she calls me narcissistic, and fails to see that its the degree of love that’s in question, she seems to have some dialectic thinking going on with no middle ground. The point is you would not love an adopted child over a biological child, if you had to chose one to save, its biology that kicks in. I guess its unsurprising that a feminist would hope to defy nature as they are bitter about the hand nature dealt them with its immutable gender roles.

            “Smart women simply are not interested in men like you who view them as objects..”

            I have not said women are objects, this is typical feminist rhetoric when they have no point to make or cannot refute a point themselves.

            So if we acknowledge gender roles and differences, we are seeing women as objects ???
            FAIL.

            ” I would just avoid a man whose values are like yours.”

            Maybe she will get this then, MEN are now avoiding women who have values like you, MEN in general REJECT the notions of FEMINISM, as it is not about equality at all, when you truly understand FEMINISM you may wake up to whats really going on.

            If you think more and more men are not starting to reject the feminist attitudes of the western world then you are kidding yourself, the movement is growing, all it takes is the information for men to make decisions that serve them best, not society, not female hope’s and dreams, not female hypergamy. Before the lure of regular sex got men into marriages, well now thats not required, so men are free from the contract of marriage or even relationship as they can have their desires filled without it.

            Whereas women still desire the marriage if she hopes to have kids, sure she can try and go it alone, and get help from the STATE (here new husband, as no woman can ever be truly independent if she has kids), but here is another issue, men are no longer required to generate larger incomes and tax revenues, as they don’t have kids or women to support (through marriage or divorce settlements etc). So they only earn enough to support themselves and have maximum leisure time. This denies the STATE with the money to pay for all these women’s programs of child care, maternity leave, contraceptives and abortions etc.

            Feminism is causing the social system to collapse, and heterosexual women are the ultimate losers in this.

            Jason

            June 24, 2014 at 6:54 pm

            • https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/personal-incredulity

              It applies here too. You assume that just because you are not capable of truly loving someone who is not related to you by blood (which is actually indicative of narcissism), no one is. Not everyone is like you. And thank God for that.

              Phoebe

              July 15, 2014 at 4:15 am

              • I am capable of love that’s why I am smart enough to avoid cunts like you :)

                Jason P

                July 15, 2014 at 9:55 am

        • “Men who marry a woman thei own age are either a) Younger under 30. or: b) Men who cannot get a younger girl due to his socio- economic status.”

          https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/personal-incredulity

          You commit the same logical fallacy over and over, assuming that all men think like you. They don’t. It would be a sad, sad world if they did. Fortunately, the world is getting more and more enlightened – your kind may try to spread your poison, but it won’t work. Most people are way too smart to listen to you. And then your kind will die off, and the world will be a better place for it.

          Phoebe

          July 15, 2014 at 4:40 am

          • All me don’t have to think like me, the majority do and the outcomes of marriage to a western cow are clearly visable, so we use these to teach the next generation to avoid the pitfalls of you kind.

            Marriage rates are dropping, women want it more but men will not step up to be a doormat.

            We win you lose.

            Jason P

            July 15, 2014 at 10:03 am

      • “Why would any woman want a man who simply wants to use her for his own purposes (fertility)?”

        Men want sex, not fertility, nature drives men to the hot younger women because it wants fertility, whereas women, despite feminism and the false idol of equality, still desire a man to take care of her and her children, hence she places more value in the ability to provide, and the modern gauge of that is money.

        Jason

        June 21, 2014 at 7:41 am

        • Wow, while I’ve been off living my life and spending time with the people I love, you’ve been busy here talking about me. I mean actually having a whole conversation talking about me and what my life must be like – you must not have a lot going on in your own life.

          It’s sad when men feel the need to trash women in order to feel good about themselves. And don’t deny it – that is what you were doing. If the both of you pathetic males who spent a sizeable chunk of time talking about a stranger on this ridiculous site had any real self-esteem or anything going for you, you would be off doing other things, not getting your jollies talking about how some random girl you have never even met is going to end up alone and “wimmenz don’t have logic.”

          Phoebe

          June 22, 2014 at 8:58 pm

          • Phebe’s the whole attempt to infer we have no life because we are defeating you in this debate, because we post the facts, is not going to work, I get notifications when a reply comes, it takes little to no effort to reply and smash you into the dirt where you belong. Please try another tactic, that dog don’t hunt cunt.:)

            Logic? You are on here posting too, why?

            Jason

            June 22, 2014 at 9:59 pm

          • HAHA. Sorry, sweetie but shame tactics don’t work anymore.
            Women don’t like to be criticized because it knocks them off their itty bitty pedestal.
            LOL

            If we are such lowlifes then why are you here?
            You see you’re just like the rest of us. LOL!

            Anonymous

            June 22, 2014 at 10:26 pm

            • She is here because the facts are the facts, western women are struggling to find a man for the very reason’s she is trying to deny. She cares because she knows its true and it is hurting her dreams, she msut shut us up in hopes of some schmuck will step up and marry her when it suits her after her career is the priority.

              Jason

              June 22, 2014 at 11:09 pm

              • Haha. The strong and independent women are panicking!
                Get over it ladies. It’s all over for you! Men aren’t taking it anymore!
                This is a revolutionnnnnn!
                LOL :D

                Anonymous

                June 23, 2014 at 1:59 am

                • Yup. Freedom. Funny that Feminism actually Freed us and is hurting Heterosexual women’s life objectives. They are now wage slaves and rapidly becoming a poor option for men.

                  Jason

                  June 24, 2014 at 6:38 pm

            • Yeah I’m here, but I don’t care enough about what is posted to get notifications as Jason apparently does, and I don’t visit this site every day like some of you apparently do. And I would never have a long conversation where I’m bashing a stranger, because that’s just sad. I only respond to what’s been said directly to me, rather than going on and on and on. You do have a point though – the time I spend on here is kind of a waste, trying to talk logic and reason with people who just want to throw out insults like 5 year olds.

              It may be futile, but as I have said I post for women who might see this bullshit article and the bullshit comments and feel bad about themselves. I want to remind them to take your words for what they are – the angry rantings of bitter males.

              I still think it’s funny that Jason has stated his opinions as if they were facts time and time again, and has, over a period of months apparently, STILL failed to provide any proof for anything he is saying.

              Phoebe

              June 24, 2014 at 2:31 pm

              • I only reply to comments, I do not visit here everyday, far from it, a quick glance at my posting dates easily proves you a liar. :)

                So why do you bother replying. Just admit you think we should not think what we think, but more importantly you think we should not be allowed to say it. Its a special kind of equality you claim to support isn’t it.

                Proof is in the data Phebe’s you are just in denial. foreign women marriages on the increase, local women marriage rates falling, women less happy now after feminist, suck it up.

                Jason

                June 24, 2014 at 6:32 pm

              • I do wonder what we are bitter about, we are free from marriages to western women, marriage in the west benefits women and rarely benefits men, women are the ones bitter at this paradigm shift feminism caused and feminism failed to warn them about this happening. Did you really think the lesbians who run feminism were going to let you know the outcome of their main objective’s: Destruction of the Nuclear Family, Destruction of Marriage (as according to feminism this is the ultimate Patriarchal Tool of Oppression of Women), Destruction of Heterosexuality (Feminism says it is the theory but Lesbianism is the Practice).

                No, we have nothing to be bitter about, Feminism actually set men free at the expense of Heterosexual Women.

                Jason

                June 24, 2014 at 6:36 pm

              • But you’re baaaaaaack!
                So much for taking the high road.

                Anonymous

                June 24, 2014 at 9:07 pm

      • You Go Girl :-).

        American Woman

        June 21, 2014 at 9:23 am

        • Oh she is going, going to be alone for life :)

          Jason

          June 21, 2014 at 10:09 am

          • Yeah, keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. You are the one who is alone. You may have a wife and kids, but you are ALL ALONE at the end of the day. If you really had people who loved you and any kind of a life, you would not feel the need to post hatred against women on a site like this.

            Phoebe

            June 22, 2014 at 8:52 pm

            • Nah I have an awesome wife and kids, the wife is my princess, we do everything for each other, eldest kid is a soldier like I was, youngest is a little cutie still going to school. Your stupid rant about if I had a life I would not be posting hate, BLA BLA BLA, yeah sure, look I am going to post the facts and expose white women and the western society for all its faults, every lonely white ozzie girl is like an orgasm for me, they are reaping what they sow. But your psychology is not going to stop that, I will try to turn as many men against white ozzie gals as I can, you lot are shit, and men need to be warned, be a fucking feminist cunt if you want but don’t get upset when men don’t want to be with you and I promote men rejecting you.

              Jason

              June 22, 2014 at 9:54 pm

              • “every lonely white ozzie girl is like an orgasm for me”

                Taking pleasure in someone else’s pain or loneliness is not the mark of a happy person. It is the mark of an insecure, bitter person – and probably a bad person too.

                No one gives a crap about your attempts to turn men against anyone, lol. Intelligent men wouldn’t listen to you and probably wouldn’t even come on this site in the first place except to get a few laughs. I won’t get upset because plenty of men are attracted to me (and these are the caliber of men who appreciate personality and intelligence as well as looks, so a higher class than you), and the men who you’re promoting reject me are men I don’t want anyway. Lol I won’t get any more upset at that than someone telling me I can’t have that apartment across town that used to be a whorehouse and is filled with cockroaches and mildew – why am I going to be upset about not getting something of shitty quality I couldn’t want less anyway?

                Phoebe

                June 24, 2014 at 2:53 pm

                • Taking pleasure in the fall of women who made their own bed and now must lie in it is completely normal, don’t try the empathy card, not all people are worthy of empathy, its like when you see a bully fall, its poetic justice.

                  I can assure you women do care about our campaign against western females, you should try reading more around the internet, its why they tell MGTOW’s to shut up and go their own way quietly, they know we are warning off more and more men and they are staying away from the toxic relationship environment of the western woman. So your point is incorrect.

                  I am active as are many others on many mediums and platforms. Intelligent men can see the bias against men in western society, bias in family law and divorce, false rape charges and harassment claims and bias in domestic violence legislation, so its not hard to scare them off white gals, because the facts are there.

                  “. I won’t get upset because plenty of men are attracted to me (and these are the caliber of men who appreciate personality and intelligence as well as looks, so a higher class than you), and the men who you’re promoting reject me are men I don’t want anyway.”

                  Sure sure, yawn, well as it worries you not and no-one is listening to us, why do you bother to post on here? You won’t change us, and “real” men as you put it won’t listen to us, I think you are really hiding the truth from yourself, our posts worry you, you think we have no right to say such things, you worry some mud will stick to the blanket if you cannot shut us down.

                  If what you say is true then I challenge you to not post on here on this topic ever again, or is there something you fear?

                  “so a higher class than you..”

                  Feeble attempt at a personal insult.

                  “and the men who you’re promoting reject me are men I don’t want anyway..”

                  Said the fox with the sour grapes syndrome.

                  She will keep posting, she is easy to analyse.

                  Jason

                  June 24, 2014 at 6:27 pm

                  • Jason is a sad little man. We should all just feel sorry for him. His sense of the world is so twisted that women who simply want to be seen as equals and treated with respect are seen as “feminazis.” He’s all vengeful and trying to educate men about these female monsters who have the nerve to want loving, respectful relationships. Good for you Jason that you found someone stupid enough to marry you. It’s just bad for the world that you and your wife passed on your stupidity by procreating. Your stupid kids will have stupid kids of their own, and the cycle will continue. People like you having kids are why the population is being dumbed down every generation.

                    Teresa

                    June 26, 2014 at 7:35 pm

                    • LOL wow.
                      Is that all you wyminnz have?
                      Shame tactics and pop-psychology? :D

                      Anonymous

                      June 27, 2014 at 3:15 am

                    • Bring it on Teresa, happy to send you my details you low filth, attacking children now? You have just proven exactly why men should reject the white filth women of the world. You have no class cunt.

                      Jason

                      June 27, 2014 at 9:01 am

                    • Wow Teresa, thanks for trying to come on here and demean me, oh my you have cut me to the core with your hurtful remarks, aren’t you just the total cunt ey Bwaahhhhhhh

                      awww even attacking my wife, no wonder aisan women hate you white filth women so much :)

                      My wife IS my equal but you are just filth who will best serve the world when your time ends, and your retarded children :)

                      White women are mostly incapable of loving respectful relationships because they want to fight gender issues daily, women and men are complimentary opposites. Not equal in any regards.

                      You have proven to be a little germ Teresa, please swallow any children that come your way. and if you ever ever want a go cunt, PM me and I will sort out your issues forever :)

                      Teresa is a low filth white cunt hehehehehehe

                      Jason

                      June 27, 2014 at 8:58 am

                    • LOL have a look at your hateful remarks, you are exactly why men should reject white women filth, you insult and attack my wife and assumed children, you just made my comments completely valid, why would any man want to be with a cunt like you who would attack innocent people. you suck bitch. Please send your details and we can sort it out :)

                      So there we have it guys, a white women shows their true nature, attacking my wife and children?

                      And you want to be with filth like her?

                      Jason

                      June 27, 2014 at 9:04 am

                    • Teresa claims to want equality for women, yet calls my wife stupid.
                      “Good for you Jason that you found someone stupid enough to marry you.”

                      And the labels our children stupid.
                      ” It’s just bad for the world that you and your wife passed on your stupidity by procreating.”

                      And again:
                      “Your stupid kids will have stupid kids of their own, and the cycle will continue.”

                      This is a typical western/white female, attacking women and children, labeling them stupid, for not endorsing her hate filled agenda.

                      Tell me friends, reading her comments, does it not bare out my comments about such women?

                      Teresa is filth. And exposes herself as such by her own words by attacking innocents she does not even know,

                      I rest my case :)

                      Jason

                      June 27, 2014 at 11:14 am

                    • Sorry, but you are obviously not intelligent, nor is any woman who would marry you. And intelligence is genetic, so your kids must not be smart either. It’s not even an insult, it’s just common sense.

                      It looks like you can dish it out but you can’t take it. You talk trash about women over and over, and then when someone turns it around on you, you can’t handle it. Obviously it wasn’t “nice” to go after your family, but you are a bully, and humiliation is the only language a bully can understand. Women on here have talked reason and even presented evidence to support their points, and it’s just met by more arrogant, demeaning bullshit from you. What happened in your life that made you so hateful towards strangers?

                      You are not advocating for men – all you are doing is bullying women and giving men a bad name. I’ve read all of your posts – you fail over and over again to provide ANY proof for anything you are saying. I’ve shown your posts to a few guys and they laughed their asses off at you. Men who are actually in touch with reality are going to read your posts as angry, idiotic ramblings rather than taking them seriously.

                      You aren’t intelligent, successful, or happy. You are a miserable person who needs to engage in online bullying in order to satisfy some twisted perverse need within. You are not to be envied or admired by anyone.

                      Teresa

                      June 27, 2014 at 3:02 pm

                    • Ok lets take Teresa’s pathetic reply apart:

                      Sorry, but you are obviously not intelligent, nor is any woman who would marry you. And intelligence is genetic, so your kids must not be smart either. It’s not even an insult, it’s just common sense.

                      WEAK ATTEMPT AT INSULTING A FAMILY BECAUSE SHE HAS NO OTHER RECOURSE, SHE HAS NOTHING TO DISPUTE THE FACTS OF WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING TO WOMEN AS A RESULT OF FEMINISM.

                      It looks like you can dish it out but you can’t take it. You talk trash about women over and over, and then when someone turns it around on you, you can’t handle it. Obviously it wasn’t “nice” to go after your family, but you are a bully, and humiliation is the only language a bully can understand. Women on here have talked reason and even presented evidence to support their points, and it’s just met by more arrogant, demeaning bullshit from you. What happened in your life that made you so hateful towards strangers?

                      I CAN TAKE IT, YOU HAVE MERELY EXPOSED EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING. YOU ATTACK THE INDIVIDUAL NOT THE ARGUMENT. MAKING STATEMENTS ABOUT WESTERN/WHITE WOMENS DILEMMA IS NOT TRASH TALKING NOR DOES IT EQUATE TO YOUR PERSONAL ATTACKS. YOU GOT PERSONAL SO IT MEANS YOU HAVE NO REAL ARGUMENT TO MAKE BECAUSE I AM RIGHT. I AM NOT THE ONLY PERSON ON HERE EXPOSING YOUR FEMINIST LIES BY THE WAY.

                      You are not advocating for men – all you are doing is bullying women and giving men a bad name. I’ve read all of your posts – you fail over and over again to provide ANY proof for anything you are saying. I’ve shown your posts to a few guys and they laughed their asses off at you. Men who are actually in touch with reality are going to read your posts as angry, idiotic ramblings rather than taking them seriously.

                      EXACTLY HOW EXPOSING THE REASON WHY MEN ARE SLOWLY REFUSING TO MARRY THE WESTERN FEMALE AND HERE FEMINIST ATTITUDES IS NOT BULLYING, ITS FACT. I HAVE PROVIDED PROOF, BUT TYPICAL TO THE FEMINIST RESPONSE IS TO JUST DENY. I SUGGEST READING ‘MEN ON STRIKE’ BY DR HELEN SMITH. THIS SHOWS EXACTLY WHAT I AM SAYING. MEN WILL READ THE INFORMATION AND START TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES. THIS IS WHY YOU WOMEN ARE HERE, YOU ARE SCARED, WORRIED THAT THE MORE MEN THAT WAKE UP AND REJECT WESTERN FEMALES AND MARRIAGE, THE HARDER IT WILL BE FOR YOU TO FIND A MAN TO USE FOR YOUR OWN LIFE’S OBJECTIVES.

                      You aren’t intelligent, successful, or happy. You are a miserable person who needs to engage in online bullying in order to satisfy some twisted perverse need within. You are not to be envied or admired by anyone.

                      ONCE AGAIN I AM VERY WELL OFF, VERY INTELLIGENT, AND VERY HAPPY. WHY WOULDN’T I BE, I AM FINANCIALLY INDEPENDENT, DON’T HAVE TO WORK, HAVE HOUSES IN TWO COUNTRIES, LIVE A LIFE OF LEISURE, GREAT WIFE AND CHILDREN. ITS NOT BULLYING TO EXPOSE THE FACTS AND PITFALLS FOR MEN TO BE INVOLVED WITH WOMEN LIKE YOU TERESA. JUST COME CLEAN AND TELL US WHICH FEMINIST ORGANISATION YOU ARE PART OF. WE ARE NOT GOING TO STOP OUR MESSAGE WARNING OUR BROTHERS OF HOW WESTERN WOMEN ARE A POOR OPTION AND WHY. NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT.

                      I AWAIT YOUR REPLY :)

                      Jason

                      June 27, 2014 at 8:21 pm

                    • ” I’ve shown your posts to a few guys and they laughed their asses off at you.”

                      1. I would not care what any other men think, that’s group thinking and is the realm of women and mangina’s, not strong independent males.

                      2. This shows you are actually aware of and threatened by the fact men are reacting exactly as we have stated to feminism.

                      Jason

                      June 27, 2014 at 8:27 pm

                    • Some light reading for Teresa
                      “January 10, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Fewer young men in the US want to get married than ever, while the desire for marriage is rising among young women, according to the Pew Research Center.”

                      ““When I ask them why, the answer is always the same: women aren’t women anymore.” Feminism, which teaches women to think of men as the enemy, has made women “angry” and “defensive, though often unknowingly.” ”

                      http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/young-men-giving-up-on-marriage-women-arent-women-anymore

                      Jason

                      June 27, 2014 at 8:33 pm

                    • Of course western white women HATE children.
                      They kill over 3000 of them everyday (abortion)
                      Not to mention the drownings, beatings and general daily child abuse.
                      They all seem to get off scott free because they’re such poor, misunderstood, gentile victims of the patriarchy!
                      And they slaughter the unborn not because “it’s my body and I’ll kill if I want to, kill if I want to, kill if I want to. You would kill too if it happened to you!”
                      But because those little heads take up too much valuable vaginal real estate!

                      Westernized white women are the lowest forms of female life on the planet. They’re like hotel toilets. Sure they’re fancy and nice looking and nice smelling, but in the end, they’re still toilets!

                      So it’s reasonable this Teresa would attack children to try and shame you.
                      A white woman will use anything to her advantage because they instinctively know they’re not worth the hair in the crack of their future cats butts! :D

                      Anonymous

                      June 28, 2014 at 3:23 am

            • How do you know his wife is not sitting on his lap laughing at you too while he’s typing? :D

              Anonymous

              June 22, 2014 at 10:33 pm

              • She is actually right here cooking me eggs on toast in our condo :)

                Jason

                June 22, 2014 at 11:06 pm

                • All the power to you buddy! :D
                  I bet pheobe is having a hard time opening that can of soup-for-one all by herself. Those can openers are such oppressive tools of the patriarchy!
                  LOL!

                  Anonymous

                  June 23, 2014 at 2:00 am

                  • I think it’s hilarious that you men browbeat women by insinuating that they must be single.

                    First of all, many women are happily single and really don’t need a man to be happy. This drives you crazy, doesn’t it? You know you have NOTHING to offer other than the ability to get a woman pregnant, so if she says no to marriage and kids, that makes you obsolete. Second of all, how do you know I’m not married or in a relationship?

                    To assume makes an ass out of you…

                    Phoebe

                    June 24, 2014 at 2:24 pm

                    • Wow got some solid bites from Phebe’s today, this issue cuts to the bone, which is through a lot of blubber in the average western womans body.

                      The fact remains the marriage rate id falling and women are seeking marriage MORE than men, hence the MAN DROUGHT, in their clamor for privileges under Feminist Legislation, they failed to notice how undesirable they had become to men, they tried vainly to deflect the man drought as myth but are finally starting to admit it, and trying to address it by shaming men who refuse to marry western females because of their feminist attitudes, rather than addressing the issue of their own personalities and the reasons men do not want them as much.

                      “First of all, many women are happily single and really don’t need a man to be happy.”

                      No, as I am happily married, it just gives my brothers more lonely women to fuck and chuck, so no bitterness there.

                      ” You know you have NOTHING to offer other than the ability to get a woman pregnant, so if she says no to marriage and kids, that makes you obsolete.”

                      No. Men have the ability to provide material and physical support and protection for females for the better part of their life, so are rarely obsolete, whereas a woman has the ability to provide men with sex and reproduction, reproduction has a time limit, and as the woman ages her attractiveness sexually wains and she has nothing else to offer, however as a male gets old he still has the wealth and power that women crave, and is able to if he chooses to move onto a younger mate that gives him better return for his investment in her physical youth, while she gains access wealth and power and prestige far beyond what men her age can offer.

                      To assume makes an ass out of me and you.

                      Typical of a stupid white pseudo-intellectual woman you think ONLY of YOURSELF, we are discussing a broader social subject, not individual specifics.

                      Jason

                      June 24, 2014 at 6:17 pm

                    • “I think it’s hilarious that you women browbeat men by insinuating that they must be single.”

                      “many women are happily single and really don’t need a man to be happy”

                      If this were true then you wouldn’t have said this:

                      “I won’t get upset because plenty of men are attracted to me (and these are the caliber of men who appreciate personality and intelligence as well as looks, so a higher class than you), and the men who you’re promoting reject me are men I don’t want anyway.”

                      You would not have said that unless you needed to be validated by men. So you see, hun, you DO need us! :D

                      “You know you have NOTHING to offer other than the ability to get a woman pregnant” Not really. Unless there are some men out there who are currently either living under a rock or in a coma, they know those potential children do not belong to them. The woman can choose to kill the child (abortion), steal them while forcing their exes to finance them (custody, child support, alimony), or force men to pay for children that aren’t even theirs! The better option for men who want kids is to have a surrogate.

                      Let’s examine again what women benefit from men in marriage:
                      Free house,
                      Free food,
                      Free Willy,
                      Full lifetime financial benefits with complete support of the government (her real husband)
                      Complete control of the children.

                      And what women have to offer men in all situations:
                      Vagina

                      “Second of all, how do you know I’m not married or in a relationship?”
                      You must not be in a very satisfying one, otherwise you wouldn’t be here trying to prove yourself to people who are beneath you. And besides:

                      “You may have a wife and kids, but you are ALL ALONE at the end of the day. If you really had people who loved you and any kind of a life, you would not feel the need to post on a site like this.”

                      Question: If the reason you are here is to try and protect wimmenz strong and independent feelings from getting hurt by stranger on a public internet forum, why are you “fighting fire with fire” as it were? This proves you are not about equality but about female superiority. It is perfectly acceptable for you to insult men but not acceptable for women to be insulted.

                      I’ll leave you with this. It is impossible for feminists to be pro-equality by virtue of that name alone: Feminism.
                      Although the civil rights struggle in the 1950s and 60s was primarily a black struggle, it was nevertheless called the CIVIL RIGHTS movement and sought to protect EVERYONE’S rights. It was not called “BLACKISM”. Even the original black panthers were protecting everyone’s rights as they had many white members.

                      P.S. The men who you have given the stamp of approval primarily exist in you mind. There are some in the real world but those are what we refer to as “manginas”. A Mangina is someone who toes the line of female worship because he is deceived into thinking he’ll score some brownie points (sexual favours) with them. They hate guys who go their own way for the simple reason that we are “rocking the boat”. To reject and condemn the FACTS that a man is primarily attracted to women in their sexual prime (fertility) and attracted to them physically first and foremost is to condemn men’s biological makeup.

                      In summary: You are very much anti-male. You hate men on a natural biological level. That is the feminist goal, to convert men into women.
                      :D Have a nice day catwoman!

                      Anonymous

                      June 24, 2014 at 9:25 pm

                • Oooh, all women should be jealous of her! Slaving away in a kitchen to prepare food for her loser husband. Now that’s the life we should all want!

                  Teresa

                  June 27, 2014 at 4:46 pm

                  • That’s obviously what you think happens in life, you will never be happy with that attitude, I guess you think the man should do everything for you instead, good luck with that. I am not a loser at all that’s just you venting rather than discussing the topic. as usual these feminists just get personal when they cannot refute the dynamics at work in front of their eyes.

                    A big mouthed egotistical feminist, who wants to fight her husband on a gender war everyday, now thats something we should all want!!!

                    Jason

                    June 27, 2014 at 8:07 pm

                    • I’m sure someone will be real happy with her some day! LOL
                      Typical white feminist, all she wants is free stuff.
                      That’s why white women nowadays age so terribly.
                      Back in the old days white women looked far better when they got older.

                      Anonymous

                      June 28, 2014 at 3:30 am

                  • Don’t call her a slave just because you can’t cook.
                    You got nothing to offer but that sperm bank you call a vagina! :D

                    Anonymous

                    June 28, 2014 at 3:24 am

        • You Go Girl (c) 1992 Desperate Delusional Single Women Society Inc.

          Anonymous

          June 23, 2014 at 2:08 am

          • Womyn teachers having sex with students are the least of your worries. In his electoral campaign of 2014, Tim Hudak’s main goal was to warn of the serious danger liberal totalitarianism poses to Canadian society.

            He goes to great lengths to demonstrate the terrifying degree of power and control a liberal totalitarian regime can acquire and maintain.

            In such liberal regimes, notions of personal rights and freedoms and individual thought are pulverized under the all-powerful hand of the Ontario Liberal government.

            Tim Hudak believed strongly in the potential for democratic voting to advance society, yet too often he witnessed such provincial elections go wrong and develop into liberal totalitarian rule. Specifically, Hudak saw such developments during his time in Ontario, where he witnesses the rise of communism and the accompanying destruction of civil liberties, honest government, and economic strength by the CUPE, Ontario Teachers Federation and other public sector unions.

            During this time when much of the Western world is lauding femi-Marxism as a step towards human progress in the development of equality in government, Hudak clearly and definitively spoke out against the practice.

            In 2014, Ontario presents a dystopia, or in other words, the perfect liberal totalitarian state.

            The Ontario Liberal Party is unflawed in its universal control over society, as evidenced by its ability to censor information about public sector corruption and inefficient school boards, and has mastered every aspect of psychological control, largely through utilizing technological developments (allowing for inventions such as the Iphone) to the advantage of the Ontario Liberals.

            With Tim Hudak and Andrea Horwath defeated in every sense of the term, Hudak clearly suggests that there is no hope for quelling the expansion or growth of such a perfectly established liberal regime. And, more importantly, Hudak warns that at the time, this outcome was within the realm of possibility as long as the Ontario people supported the Ontario Liberals.

            Coutle

            June 27, 2014 at 12:31 pm

            • No no…female child predators defy all moral and professional work ethic and still keep their job.

              Misandry in Canada via the public education sector

              Female administrators are given the proverbial slap on the wrists for explicit misconduct whether it be inappropriate photos or sexual relations with minor students.

              The National Post reports, “Penny Mueller’s problems began in July 2009 when the educational leader of Crestomere School posed for a photo in which she simulated fellatio on the phallic-shaped Washington Monument while in the U.S. capital for a taxpayer-funded conference.

              Another teacher from the K-9 facility was reprimanded and fined $500 by the Alberta Teacher’s Association for posting the picture on her Facebook page where it was seen by shocked parents and former students.” (Source National Post)

              One point taken is that Penny Mueller was paid to operate her job, but instead used her time to allegedly pose for inappropriate pictures. Imagine if the principal was a male
              teacher of longstanding work ethic; the consequences for the male teacher would have been harsher.

              The Toronto Sun reports, ” But, in fact, almost no one would defend the sexual abuse of a young girl by a male teacher.
              But many people do when the roles are reversed — when the teacher is female and the student male.
              The case in question here is that of Tania Pontbriand, who taught gym at a high school near Montreal. She has been convicted of sexual assault.
              Judge Valmont Beaulieu wrote, “The accused dominated her victim who had become completely dependent on her, and trusted her blindly, isolating himself from his friends, losing interest for his studies and causing arguments with his mother.”

              In other words, the young boy suffered as we might expect a young girl to suffer in the same circumstance. (Source: Toronto Sun)

              The Marxist government places feminists on a pedestal and allows perverts like Tania Pontbriand to interfere with her students for sexual exploitation.

              CTV News Montreal states that “Judge Valmont Beaulieu rejected the defence’s argument that the young victim was unreliable in his 150-page judgment”. In other words, Tania Pontbriand’s defense lawyers [ probably a representative of the public school board or teachers unions] tried to discredit the male victim, thereby causing the risk of defamation and slander if anyone claimed she had an affair with the student.

              Another, Mary Gowans was alleged to have exchanged over 2,000 text messages with her 14 year old male student, but the evidence was rejected in the feminist-friendly Canadian court of law.

              Inefficient and incompetent female administrators and senior teachers pose a professional liability to the supposed reputation of Canadian public school boards.

              Jacob Serbrin of Macleans [ Article: Free speech under attack in colleges and high schools Schools should be teaching students how to participate in society, not giving lessons in petty tyranny] claims that female administrator Varla Abrams suspended a male student over his disapproval of the school’s sports team. Quote “High schools have a critical role in ensuring that young Canadians are prepared to be engaged citizens in our free society. I’m not the first person to think that they’re failing that duty. But maybe part of the problem is administrators like Northern principal Varla Abrams, who would probably be better suited to running a school in Pyongyang than Toronto.”

              Female Canadian teachers have privilege. They can conduct unprofessional, illicit, inappropriate and illegal conduct without fear of social and legal consequences, and they can enforce restriction on civil liberties if their students complain about a sports team.

              Canada is the world capital of misandry and the feminists know it.

              public sector unions suck

              June 27, 2014 at 8:49 pm

              • Yeah if its a man it was rape if it was a woman its an illicit affair or relationship.

                Double standards. Its bad but does help turn more and more people against feminism.

                Jason

                June 27, 2014 at 10:23 pm

  12. “This whole thing is absolute garbage. Well, most of what is on this website is, but particularly this. Telling someone you don’t even know from Eve why she’s single at 28 says nothing about her and everything about your own stupidity. You don’t even know her – she could very well be single by choice, and probably is. And BTW any woman would rather be single than have anything to do with most of the ridiculous men on this site. Many are staying single for longer purely because the quality of men is so shitty, as is shown by the level of bullshit shown in the comments here.”

    By Tara

    No the problem is the attitude of women like yourself that is making men not want you, more woman are looking for and willing to marry than guys are willing to marry them :)

    Jason

    July 19, 2014 at 10:29 am


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