Are you a fatist?
Are you a fatist?
Post by disconnect on Jan 18, 2006, 7:08pm
Not sure if this has appeared here before, but here it is:
Apparently, if I judge someone on their looks, I am a lookist. If I judge them on their weight, I am a fatist. Therefore, if I assume that the tub of lard in line at the pizza hut joint is going to order 2 XL stuffed crust Canadians and eat them herself, I am a fatist and should be ashamed, even though I’m right. What a crock of shit! What’s wrong with judging someone? We do it all the time because WE have to look at all the fatsos who let themselves go because they have no willpower. I say let them get what they deserve. If they take up two seats on an plane, I say let them pay for two. That’s only fair.
And no matter how much the media tries to tell me otherwise, I simply could not find a shred of beauty in morbid obesity. It’s one thing to subliminally advertise fat as beautiful, but stating it directly? Do these people really believe that saying how to think will get us to think that way? Another sad reminder of the shithole we as a society will end up in.
This guy deserves his money:
dear fat girl on the plane to charlotte: you owe me $35
you were so, so nice. i’m not taking that away from you. you asked me about my book and where i was going, and i replied though i am ashamed to say i could not look you in the eye because i was so CRAZY PISSED.
a typical plane seat in economy class is approximately 17 inches. breaking down my 9.2-hour roundtrip journey, i paid approximately $127 for those 17 inches. by my most modest calculations, you owe me $27.70 for the four inches of comfort and privacy you robbed me of. let’s round that figure up to $30 for that spot where your massive thigh was rubbing against me the whole 2.5-hour flight. add another $5 (again modest) for our shared armrest having to be up because you could not fit in the seat when it was down. if i wanted to put my seat back, i had to pretend like it wasn’t embarrassing for you (yes, i was concerned about your feelings, too) for me to ask you to lean forward so i could pull out the armrest a little and push in my button. good thing i didn’t want to see the in-flight movie.
i by no means hate fat people. i believe in the freedom to do or eat anything you want so long as it does not infringe on my freedom. this is purely a matter of financial injustice.
i’m just saying that if you need two seats, pay for two seats. don’t hate on the skinny girl who paid just as much, if not more, for those precious 17 inches of limited plane space.
if you’re out there, please mail $34.63 before january 8 or $34.61 after (i’ll pay for the stamp–it’s only fair).
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by bernie on Jan 18, 2006, 8:32pm
I’m a fatist and proud!! I can’t stand fat people, especially women, who on top of being fat think they are God’s gift to men. Here in NC I’d say 70% of people are fat or noticeable overweight. In the summer you see all the fat chicks with their cottage cheese, pale legs strutting around with an ice cream cone. Disgusting
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by anonymous on Jan 18, 2006, 9:20pm
I think it goes both ways. If someone is fat, then there is nothing wrong with asking them point blank why they don’t lose weight. Annoying them rather than accepting them is the only way they are going to make a positive lifestyle choice for the better.
Then again, if you just make fun of people for being fat just to make yourself feel better, well that is no different than making fun of a guy’s car because he doesn’t drive a shiny new convertible.
It really depends on the spirit of the discussion. If someone gets offended for you trying to help them, then that is their problem not yours because unless you were born with a disability that prevents you from being able to walk, then everyone in this world should be expected to carry their own weight: LITERALLY!
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by Pugnatious on Jan 18, 2006, 9:25pm
Star Jones is a perfect example of this.
The woman is as big as a house but she paints up her face like it’s a Rembrandt and then ties a ribbon around her neck.
What were not supposed to look below the line?
I find it allot easer to deal with a woman who has a plain face and body than one with a great face and arm fat bigger than my thighs.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by Snakey on Jan 18, 2006, 9:38pm
Telling fat people they’re fine as they are to protect their self esteem must be better for them than telling them to lose weight and avoid the heart-attack at age 44. Fine. Just don’t expect me to be sexually attracted.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by anonymous on Jan 18, 2006, 9:48pm
Jan 18, 2006, 9:25pm, Pugnatious wrote:Star Jones is a perfect example of this.
The woman is as big as a house but she paints up her face like it’s a Rembrandt and then ties a ribbon around her neck.
What were not supposed to look below the line?
I find it allot easer to deal with a woman who has a plain face and body than one with a great face and arm fat bigger than my thighs.
Agreed, but I can think of plenty of fat guys in showbiz who do the same thing by never being seen in public in any attire other than a suit, since suits are designed to make skinny men not look so frail and fat men not look so damned fat.
Some guys do like fat chicks and some guys like really skinny chicks. I myself, generally like something in between. If a woman is too skinny, then she looks malnourished or sick or even manly in certain areas, but that is not nearly as common as seeing women who let their midriffs hang out of hip huggers and actually think men find that more attractive than just doing what women in past times with a weight problem tried to do their best and that was COVER THEIR ASS with really long shirts.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by TyHigs on Jan 18, 2006, 10:51pm
I don’t think any man really likes fat women.
I truly believe those men are perverted and desperate, and I’ve heard it from their own mouths. They are an embarrassment to the male sex. “I don’t care how fat or ugly she is, as long as she has a pink spot.” Talk about no class.
Men don’t like fat women. It is just that those men would fuck farm animals if it were socially acceptable.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by Phlendo Pinywiny on Jan 18, 2006, 10:57pm
You know, this makes me hope a certain Fatist by the name of Chocolate Mussolini, after making a recovery from an addiction to delicious Italian desserts, feels the need to help the world get fit and invades Michigan and Texas.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by adolf hitler on Jan 18, 2006, 11:22pm
yes, yes i am a fatist, and a fascist as well
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by ghast on Jan 18, 2006, 11:36pm
reminds me of Family Guy when they took a broadside at Lifetime. “Lifetime: Television for Idiots.”
I wonder how many angry suburbanite bitches blasted’em for that.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by anonymous on Jan 18, 2006, 11:50pm
Jan 18, 2006, 10:51pm, TyHigs wrote:I don’t think any man really likes fat women.
I truly believe those men are perverted, and I’ve heard it from their own mouths. They are an embarrassment to the male sex. “I don’t care how fat or ugly she is, as long as she has a pink spot.” Talk about no class.
Men don’t like fat women. It is just that those men would fuck farm animals if it were socially acceptable.
More like just being desperate.
Pussy is pussy – Stiffler
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by batshit bitch on Jan 19, 2006, 1:46am
Fat chicks have their pro’s too. If their pussy smells like fish or somethin you can always fuck their flab.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by JDB on Jan 19, 2006, 2:18am
Jan 18, 2006, 10:51pm, TyHigs wrote:I don’t think any man really likes fat women.
I truly believe those men are perverted, and I’ve heard it from their own mouths. They are an embarrassment to the male sex. “I don’t care how fat or ugly she is, as long as she has a pink spot.” Talk about no class.
Men don’t like fat women. It is just that those men would fuck farm animals if it were socially acceptable.
Shaming other men because of their sexual preferences and calling them embarrassment to the male sex? what do you know about psychology? ha :-X You didn’t honestly feel your un-educated guess is the ONLY acceptable explanation? oh no I think you did! How many of these men that you regard as losers, perverts have you personally met? this is some arrogant shit.
of course, TyHigs is the most normal person in the whole wide world everyone should all normalize our behaviors using his as the gold standard.
not
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by TyHigs on Jan 19, 2006, 2:29am
I apologize that is my fatism talking. Whoever you are. You can have every fat woman in the world. I stand by my original statement. They aren’t perverts, but they are DESPERATE. And the quote? 100% true.
I suppose that if we were living 10,000 years ago, a 300lbs woman would be considered sexy. But I prefer the women with saggy breasts in the National geographic Magazine to some 250lbs woman who doesn’t have enough self (variable) to stop overeating.
Some of these men are an embarrassment. Refer to the quote above. When men admit to having zero preference as long as there is a vagina, then that man is an embarrassment and sick (cant find the correct adjective at the moment).
Can I give you an estimate of the men who prefer obese women? Nope. Are they in the majority? Nope. Have I met men who date fat women exclusively? Yep, and it was only cause they wanted something quick and easy.
Can I speak to you scientifically? would those men even admit to these things if asked randomly?
I’m sorry that I hit a nerve with you. But really. Too bad.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by TyHigs on Jan 19, 2006, 2:47am
Jan 19, 2006, 2:18am, JDB wrote:
of course, TyHigs is the most normal person in the whole wide world everyone should all normalize our behaviors using his as the gold standard.not
Nah. Things would be way too boring. Not saying I’m boring. (easy one, right). Just saying that variety makes things more interesting. Only people I would normalize are those men who validate fat women’s egocentricities by dating them. We have enough women who think they are hot shit, and with normal men chasing after fat chicks, it only makes the situation worse for the rest of us.
Or then again maybe guys like you free up the more attractive women for the rest of us who prefer “non-obese” (trying to be PC here) women. In that case, Thank You. 
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by JDB on Jan 19, 2006, 2:53am
personally my experiences are that girls who don’t rely on their looks as much have often develop other likable traits to make up for their disadvantage and are often not as manipulative and needy because since they are young they have learned to live without the male attention. besides, those who has a healthy appetite can enjoy food with me. There are more to do in life than working out numerous hours a week at a gym. She can be up to 50 pound overweight and I wouldn’t care.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by uszername on Jan 19, 2006, 2:57am
Ever noticed how much of a pain a reformed smoker can be to smokers?
Well, since personally shedding a bunch of kilos lm a fattist with a vengeance.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by TyHigs on Jan 19, 2006, 3:13am
50lbs overweight would make a woman 170lbs. Is that in the obese range? I’d have to check. Certainly in the fat range. My mental picture was a woman of 250lbs at the same height.
In any case, unless she has some metabolic disease, she shouldn’t even be 170lbs. It doesn’t take hours a wk. That’s just a lazy person’s excuse. 30mins a day plus eating healthier, less calorie dense foods would work wonders. And as for a woman making up for it with her other traits, IS THERE SCIENTIFIC PROOF FOR THIS? Oh no, of course not. So stop with the everything must have scientific evidence crap (and post under your real name).
My personal experience with fat women is that they must be nicer in order to snag a man, but underneath they have a seething animosity for anyone, male or female, who’s objectively more attractive than they are – especially men they’d have no chance with. And whats worse? Well she just may wonder what the hell is wrong with you if you have to accept someone like her. Cause if you had it all together, you’d be with someone more attractive. So even she may not respect you. Of course this is all conjecture for your pleasure.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by jdb on Jan 19, 2006, 3:18am
2 different things man. I stated, “my personal experiences”. You stated, “I heard from some guy”. basically I have a bit more grounds than you to stand on..
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by TyHigs on Jan 19, 2006, 3:25am
And this is what you are huffing about? Get over it. Really.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by uszername on Jan 19, 2006, 3:36am
Fatties tend to have a LOT of issues, all of which WILL be DUMPED on you. If that’s your bag, then more power to you.
Personally, my experience of fatties, especially the ones who have carried it around past their 30s, is that they can be quite ornery, cynical and oh so overly critical. In terms of Freudian psycho babble… they project, fiercely.
They hold you back when you re trying to get and stay in shape. They bring all sorts of crap food into the house and frankly go outta their way to knock you off the wagon. Great, just wot everyone needs in life… an unsupportive saboteur.
They are outstanding at making excuses and in my book EXCUSES HAVE NO USES. Those excuses go well beyond diet and exercise. No thanks.
Loosing weight and staying in shape is not logically difficult. Eat moderately and exercise moderately. That is it in a nutshell. Not rocket science, no need for new fangled dietary gimmicks.
The fight is purely PSYCHOLOGICAL. This in my view is the essence of how we judge obesity. It reflects an inner struggle. A lack of self esteem. A lack of self discipline. These things are RED FLAGS. Personally l would rather slow down and possibly stop and turn around when l see a red flag waving rather than hitting the brakes as l slide thru the oncoming oil slick.
The sight speaks volumes without wasting any time on words.
Exercise doesnt take much effort. Its a habit thing. 3-5 days a week of 10-20 minutes of very light, high repetition weights and a 30-60min walk 3-5 days wk is all it takes. These activities are VERY boring so getting into a team sport oriented activity eliminates that. Incidentally, social sports as exercise is a great way to get out and about and meet new people.
As one gets older, diet and exercise become very important to health and quality of life. Good diet and a bit of exercise improves health, energy, reduces incidence of disease and just plain improves outlook.
Dont knock until you’ve tried it.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by Niall NLIT on Jan 19, 2006, 4:49am
My father always said ‘never do business with a fat person’. And that has proved to be good advice. There are maybe 1% who are obese due to a genuine medical condition the rest are lazy and selfish. It really is not that difficult to stay in shape. Eat right and take a little exercise and there you go.
I only sport fuck US women now but even then I look for someone with a good body. The face I can take or leave. Am I fattiest? Damn right I am.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by guestman on Jan 19, 2006, 9:22am
I think “fat” is subjective. Height and muscle mass play into a lot of it, anyone who is health conscious can figure that out.
For instance, there is a lap swim instructor at my local aquatic YMCA. She’s 5′ 7″, 170 lbs (she told us how much she weighs), and not an ounce of fat on her whole body. She’s not fat, she’s not skinny, she’s not overly muscular, but, I guess I would say normal, healthy, and in shape. She’s certainly nice to look at in a bathing suit.
On another note, there’s a woman I work with who probably weighs a little less (not much I bet), but has rolls and is obviously not fit. I know my wife wears a size 9-10; however, I have no idea how much she weighs (she won’t tell me), but I consider her normal to slim.
Did you ever watch The Biggest Loser? Even at the end, the thin women weighed about 130-145 lbs, which sounds about normal to me.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by scholarlee on Jan 19, 2006, 11:09am
metabolism is a weird thing. what takes me three hours in the gym a night to accomplish might take some other girl twenty minutes. for some, weight loss is a piece of…um…cake. for others it’s (ahem) no picnic.
I’ve been a skinny girl, and I’ve been a fat girl. these days, I’m a fat fan.
when I first met my ex, he said “you’d be beautiful if you lost weight.” I said “okay!” I wound up losing about 70 pounds before he’d finally find my shape acceptable.
for me to accomplish “skinny”, it took a diet of less than 1000 calories a day, one hour of cardio (a 6 or 7 mile run at a 7-8.5 min pace) a day and another four or five hours a week at the gym doing machines, aerobics, middle-eastern dance, etc. figure in time to get to and from the gym, time to shower and tend to gym clothes, and time preparing special non-fat, non-carb food, and that about took up all the time I wasn’t at the office or doing housework or fucking or sleeping.
yep. I got skinny. 5 ft. even and 98 rock hard pounds. I felt AWFUL.
and that rat bastard still ran around giving his phone number to other women, women heavier and curvier and, well, fatter than me. I know men like to look, and I don’t begrudge that, but damn!
I kept waiting for how ultrafabulouswonderful my life would be, you know, after I had lost all that weight. it wasn’t. I didn’t like being stared at by strangers. I didn’t like how my bones ached and my hair got all gross and I felt so goddamned tired all the time. For seven years all I wanted was to sit down for a minute and have a beer and read a book.
we broke up. It started to hurt to exercise. I got fat. I guess I’ve gained back about 50 of the 70 pounds I lost. strangely, I feel somewhat better now.
as for my man now, well, I guess he’s not complaining…not as of last night, anyway…;) and I kind of dig heavy bearded guys (I’m weird like that), so we make a good pair. we do both wish we could get some exercise and be healthier. but neither of us are bitching.
all the fat chicks in the world could drop all their excess weight overnight and women would still be vain, greedy, materialistic, pitiless, cruel, wasteful, impetuous and boring.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by Lee on Jan 19, 2006, 11:57am
Jan 19, 2006, 3:13am, TyHigs wrote:50lbs overweight would make a woman 170lbs. Is that in the obese range? I’d have to check. Certainly in the fat range. My mental picture was a woman of 250lbs at the same height.
Obese has a medical definition.
Someone who has a BMI of 30 or above, or someone who is 100 pounds overweight.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by razor on Jan 19, 2006, 12:46pm
I have to disagree with you on this one, Ty. I got a bit of a thing for the thick girls. Some look pretty nice with it. Maybe around 200-220. But not horribly obese 300+.
But don’t take all the skinny ones.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by scholarlee on Jan 19, 2006, 12:48pm
Jan 19, 2006, 12:46pm, razor wrote:I have to disagree with you on this one, Ty. I got a bit of a thing for the thick girls. Some look pretty nice with it. Maybe around 200-220. But not horribly obese 300+.
that’s a Whole Lotta Rosie!
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by razor on Jan 19, 2006, 12:51pm
@scholarlee:
98 pounds? What the hell? I’m not dissin’ ya, but that’s just way too small for me. That means you were about 160-ish? Sounds good to me, but go fig.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by TyHigs on Jan 19, 2006, 12:58pm
Jan 19, 2006, 12:46pm, razor wrote:I have to disagree with you on this one, Ty. I got a bit of a thing for the thick girls. Some look pretty nice with it. Maybe around 200-220. But not horribly obese 300+.
But don’t take all the skinny ones.
Isnt it sweet how you didn’t whine cause I have a different opinion like whats his name did?
anyhow, 200-220 is getting into my weight class. I want someone delicate, fragile and feminine. Not someone bulky.
Aber du kannst alle die fett frauen haben, mein freund.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by razor on Jan 19, 2006, 1:05pm
You didn’t give me time to finish….
…you non-agreeing-with-me-asshole. 
But I can hear you on that one, though. I just have a broader range of what I consider feminine. No big deal.
But I do like the smaller girls a bit more. It feels more like I’m protecting them, ya dig?
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by scholarlee on Jan 19, 2006, 1:08pm
razor – different strokes for different folks, I guess. I was still the same girl (for good or ill), just in a different shape. He wanted me thinner. so I got thinner. I was trying to be a good wife.
what was weird was that the thinner/more in shape I got, the less “feminine” I felt. I’d dress up in those cute little miniskirts, fix my face, do my hair, and feel like a drag queen. I didn’t feel like a lady. I felt like a fake lady. ugh.
but what really messed with my head was that I had totally bought into the idea that once I shed all those extra pounds my life would be totally smooth sailing. I mean, all those girls in the Jenny Craig ads are grinning like lobotomy patients! the Weight Watchers chicks are laughing and singing and celebrating! yee-hah! hooray we’re thin! and desirable! and perfect! and everyone wants to be like us! Everyone says that being healthy and thin is the way to be, right? so off I went and gave it 110% and frankly the payoff just wasn’t there for me.
please understand – I’m not trying to say that my ex was a monster for preferring thin women, nor that all men are monsters if they prefer thin women, nor that thin women are bitches just because they are thin (although the constant dieting did not make me Little Mary Fucking Sunshine, that’s for sure).
I’m just saying that from the perspective of a woman who’s been both slender and heavy, slender ain’t all it’s cracked up to be.
you know what sucked? hearing all my girlfriends go “you’re so thin – I hate you.”
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by trailblazer on Jan 19, 2006, 1:19pm
Jan 19, 2006, 1:08pm, scholarlee wrote:
I’m just saying that from the perspective of a woman who’s been both slender and heavy, slender ain’t all it’s cracked up to be.you know what sucked? hearing all my girlfriends go “you’re so thin – I hate you.”
Having been on both sides, did you notice any change in how you felt, like how much sleep you wanted or how much energy you had?
I dumped a couple of over-weight GF’s because they couldn’t do anything remotely resembling exercise, like climb one flight of stairs instead of using the elevator. Another had to sleep at least 8 extra hours (beyond normal bed-times) every weekend.
My own preferences certainly aren’t for sticks, and I could hardly care less what any other guy think of my GF’s looks; but I want her to be able to DO stuff with me.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by scholarlee on Jan 19, 2006, 1:26pm
Jan 19, 2006, 1:19pm, trailblazer wrote:
Having been on both sides, did you notice any change in how you felt, like how much sleep you wanted or how much energy you had?
I dumped a couple of over-weight GF’s because they couldn’t do anything remotely resembling exercise, like climb one flight of stairs instead of using the elevator. Another had to sleep at least 8 extra hours (beyond normal bed-times) every weekend.
My own preferences certainly aren’t for sticks, and I could hardly care less what any other guy think of my GF’s looks; but I want her to be able to DO stuff with me.
that’s the thing – I kept expecting to feel invigorated and energetic and active and all. I just didn’t. I felt bone-tired most days, and fragile, like if I fell I’d break. it was really disappointing.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by anonymous on Jan 19, 2006, 1:41pm
Jan 19, 2006, 11:09am, scholarlee wrote:metabolism is a weird thing. what takes me three hours in the gym a night to accomplish might take some other girl twenty minutes. for some, weight loss is a piece of…um…cake. for others it’s (ahem) no picnic.
I’ve been a skinny girl, and I’ve been a fat girl. these days, I’m a fat fan.
when I first met my ex, he said “you’d be beautiful if you lost weight.” I said “okay!” I wound up losing about 70 pounds before he’d finally find my shape acceptable.
for me to accomplish “skinny”, it took a diet of less than 1000 calories a day, one hour of cardio (a 6 or 7 mile run at a 7-8.5 min pace) a day and another four or five hours a week at the gym doing machines, aerobics, middle-eastern dance, etc. figure in time to get to and from the gym, time to shower and tend to gym clothes, and time preparing special non-fat, non-carb food, and that about took up all the time I wasn’t at the office or doing housework or fucking or sleeping.
yep. I got skinny. 5 ft. even and 98 rock hard pounds. I felt AWFUL.
and that rat bastard still ran around giving his phone number to other women, women heavier and curvier and, well, fatter than me. I know men like to look, and I don’t begrudge that, but damn!
I kept waiting for how ultrafabulouswonderful my life would be, you know, after I had lost all that weight. it wasn’t. I didn’t like being stared at by strangers. I didn’t like how my bones ached and my hair got all gross and I felt so goddamned tired all the time. For seven years all I wanted was to sit down for a minute and have a beer and read a book.
we broke up. It started to hurt to exercise. I got fat. I guess I’ve gained back about 50 of the 70 pounds I lost. strangely, I feel somewhat better now.
as for my man now, well, I guess he’s not complaining…not as of last night, anyway…;) and I kind of dig heavy bearded guys (I’m weird like that), so we make a good pair. we do both wish we could get some exercise and be healthier. but neither of us are bitching.
all the fat chicks in the world could drop all their excess weight overnight and women would still be vain, greedy, materialistic, pitiless, cruel, wasteful, impetuous and boring.
The main reasons so many women are fat (as well as men, though it is certainly easier for men to stay lean) is:
(1) Eating, especially binge eating is largely environmentally cued. If your boyfriend who has a higher metabolism (or just happens to be fat like his girlfriend is) eats a large meal, many women feel like they need to compete with the guy and eat just as much, when many women need probably half as much food.
(2) The female brain is 15% smaller on average than the male brain and therefore probably uses less calories per day since the human brain is a giant calorie machine, so therefore this will affect the BMR of women (actually even though the brain size fact is correct, the rest is just speculation to piss off some of the female trollsters here )
(3) Women are averse to free weights or weight training in general because they are afraid they will “bulk” up. Unless you have a hormone problem like PCOS or else you take steroids, you just won’t have enough testosterone in your system to get massively huge like a man, so worrying about getting too “manly” should not be a concern. Free weights are probably even more important for women than men long term, since they have high rates of osteoporosis and heavy free weight training does a heck of a lot more to build bone mass than doing no weight training at all, or else using a bunch of machines with very little weight and not repping out to failure. Also, low-rep free weight resistance work is highly anaerobic which means it burns a ton more calories than aerobic work since anaerobic exercise is around 8 times less efficient than aerobic work which makes use of oxygen. Weight training with heavy loads also puts your body in an anabolic state encouraging it to build muscle, while decreasing fat, while long term aerobic exercise actually puts you in a catabolic state (tear down muscle and store fat). That is why you should not work out hard for more than 20-30 minutes at a time because after that point your cortisol levels start to spike. A short, yet hard workout is far more productive than a long drawn out workout, especially since it is mentally fatiguing to go to the gym everyday for an hour or so and kill yourself. If you want to work out for an hour or more a day, go twice a day and two two small sessions. Unfortunately, women don’t realize that sometimes less is more and that intensity is what really counts when it comes to keeping the fat off long term. Body builders have known this fact for a long time, but instead you still see fat women hopelessly running on treadmills until they pass out and wonder why they can’t lose much fat. Now, if you can start running several miles a day and keep it up consistently, your body will adapt to becoming a fat burning machine over time as your body becomes more efficient at using fat versus glucose as an aerobic fuel source, but a month in January at some gym of killing yourself on a treadmill is not going to change your metabolic profile overnight. So to sum things up, few women know what to do to lose weight, and the paid personal trainers are usually either ignorant or else don’t want to tell them the truth that they need to workout short and hard to get any real long term results. Women don’t like intensity and pain, so usually trainers just erroneously recommend them to circuit train with low-weights on the machines and then hit the treadmill for half an hour because these trainers like getting paid by the hour and don’t want to tell their clients the hard truth. As long as women feel like they are making progress, they will be happy with their trainer, but after the “newbie” losses of fat and water in the first few weeks are gone, most women hit a brick wall when it comes to fat loss. Simply put, women just don’t know how to lose weight effectively.
(4) The birth control pill screws with a woman’s testosterone level and testosterone in both men and women is one of the most important anabolic hormones you need to stay lean and keep the fat off. Women produce relatively little of it in their endocrine glands, but every bit of it counts when it comes to staying lean. Also, a lifetime of sitting on your ass watching Oprah or not being involved in sports when they are young causes these women to do long term damage to their metabolism, including lowered testosterone which unfortunately also means lowered sex drive and reversing that change with exercise takes time (certainly longer than the month or two tops most women spend in the gym each year post January 1).
(5) Most women have done some form of crash dieting in their youth. Again this is damaging over time to your long-term metabolic profile. The shortcuts they take in their youth to get skinny only make it harder to lose weight when they are older.
(6) A lot of women have thyroid problems and don’t know it. If you are a fat woman you should get your thyroid checked before bothering to hit the gym because trying to lose weight with a malfunctioning thyroid gland is like an uphill battle. Sometimes supplementation can fix your thyroid problems, but sometimes you will need to take a prescription of thyroxin for life.
Anyways, there are plenty of other obvious reasons for America’s obesity epidemic (especially with women), but women have a lot of extra strikes against them for cultural reasons most women are ignorant of, but that is their fault for being stupid and listening to people like Oprah and Dr. Phil for weight loss advice, rather than pay attention to the people who have taken fat loss to an extreme for years (bodybuilders).
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by antiriad on Jan 19, 2006, 1:43pm
I proudly admit that I am a fatist, uglyist, idiotist, prejudiced sumnabitch. And fsck you too if you have a problem with that.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by scholarlee on Jan 19, 2006, 2:22pm
anonymous – don’t get me wrong. what I was doing worked really well. it turned a 175-pound slug into a straight-up athlete. prior to that, as a teenager/young adult, I was never athletic, but neither did I “diet”. (dieting was for pretty girls.) but at my “peak”, I broke a 7 minute mile for at least two miles.
but it didn’t make me happy. it didn’t even make my ex happy. It didn’t contribute to peace in the family, increase our bank balance or make the world a better place. it just made me tired and damn hungry.
I gotta say, I kind of miss the charge I got out of being considered “athletic”. I had mad bragging rights for a little while, which was funny and kind of cool.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by scholarlee on Jan 19, 2006, 2:25pm
Jan 19, 2006, 1:43pm, antiriad wrote:I proudly admit that I am a fatist, uglyist, idiotist, prejudiced sumnabitch. And fsck you too if you have a problem with that.
actually, the term used these days is “sizeist”. the way you have it phrased it sounds like you are pro-fat (not anti-fat).
but at least you’re honest.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by TyHigs on Jan 19, 2006, 2:35pm
Jan 19, 2006, 1:41pm, anonymous wrote:
The main reasons so many women are fat (as well as men, though it is certainly easier for men to stay lean) is:(1) Eating, especially binge eating is largely environmentally cued. If your boyfriend who has a higher metabolism (or just happens to be fat like his girlfriend is) eats a large meal, many women feel like they need to compete with the guy and eat just as much, when many women need probably half as much food.
OK I will accept this. The reason women are fat is cause men naturally eat more, therefore making women fat. Gotcha. When these women realize they arent big burly men, this might change. But of course whatever a man can do, a woman can do too, damnit.
Jan 19, 2006, 1:41pm, anonymous wrote:
(2) The female brain is 15% smaller on average than the male brain and therefore probably uses less calories per day since the human brain is a giant calorie machine, so therefore this will affect the BMR of women (actually even though the brain size fact is correct, the rest is just speculation to piss off some of the female trollsters here )
And 15 times the emotional reasoning and moral relativism must generate enough heat to keep them on par with the logical predominant thought system of men.
Jan 19, 2006, 1:41pm, anonymous wrote:
(3) Women are averse to free weights or weight training in general because they are afraid they will “bulk” up.
Women are risk averse, and wont go near the weights. Thats why they have treadmills, ellipticals, rowing machines, stairmasters, stationary bikes, JUST FOR RISK AVERSE WOMEN. No excuses.
Jan 19, 2006, 1:41pm, anonymous wrote:
(4) The birth control pill screws with a woman’s testosterone level and testosterone in both men and women is one of the most important anabolic hormones you need to stay lean and keep the fat off. Women produce relatively little of it in their endocrine glands, but every bit of it counts when it comes to staying lean.
They have also invented the sponges (coming back on the market), the diaphragm, spermicidal foam (over90% effective), and the I.U.D. (of which there are two kinds). Women dont have to take pills if they dont wish to, or complain about fat/water gain.
Jan 19, 2006, 1:41pm, anonymous wrote:
(5) Most women have done some form of crash dieting in their youth. Again this is damaging over time to your long-term metabolic profile. The shortcuts they take in their youth to get skinny only make it harder to lose weight when they are older.
Statement A: Most women have tried this – doubtful. what are they all on the crew team where weight matters? Men go through this too, on sports team. You dont hear them complaining after college that they cant lose those 10lbs. And how has this damaged their long term profile?
Statement B: shortcuts make it harder in the future. PROVE IT!
Jan 19, 2006, 1:41pm, anonymous wrote:
(6) A lot of women have thyroid problems and don’t know it. If you are a fat woman you should get your thyroid checked before bothering to hit the gym because trying to lose weight with a malfunctioning thyroid gland is like an uphill battle. Sometimes supplementation can fix your thyroid problems, but sometimes you will need to take a prescription of thyroxin for life.
Ahh, yes, the old “My thyroid exploded excuse.” BS. I doubt more than 5% of women have a under-T4/t3 production problem. Thats an outright lie fat people give for being fat. anyway, theres this ancient drug called “synthroid” or even better “cytomel” which replaces the missing hormones. Her doctor should have already checked it during a routine check-up.
Jan 19, 2006, 1:41pm, anonymous wrote:
Anyways, there are plenty of other obvious reasons for America’s obesity epidemic (especially with women), but women have a lot of extra strikes against them for cultural reasons most women are ignorant of, but that is their fault for being stupid and listening to people like Oprah and Dr. Phil for weight loss advice, rather than pay attention to the people who have taken fat loss to an extreme for years (bodybuilders).
1. Either women are stupid or
2. women are sheep
3. Therefore women are equals and/or we should listen to them because? How many men fall into this Oprah trap? Maybe cause men are independent thinkers while women are herd-thinkers.
The real reason schlee felt like shit most of the time was not due to her weight. It is probably because she was eating at starvation levels. No one can have energy at 1000 cals a day, unless you are a tiny wabbit.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by Patr3 on Jan 19, 2006, 2:46pm
My problem with fat people is related to attitude. I realize a fat woman may get picked on and such and that society places a premium on appearance, but there are a lot of fat women out there who feel entitled to Brad Pitt and whine when they can’t have him. Unrealistic people create their own misery and blame others.
What I have noticed, and particularly in high-school, was that the fat girls got the worst treatment from other girls.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by antiriad on Jan 19, 2006, 2:58pm
Jan 19, 2006, 2:46pm, Patr3 wrote:What I have noticed, and particularly in high-school, was that the fat girls got the worst treatment from other girls.
This is because “misogynist: a man who hates women as much as women hate each other.”
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by Patr3 on Jan 19, 2006, 3:13pm
Jan 19, 2006, 11:09am, scholarlee wrote:metabolism is a weird thing. what takes me three hours in the gym a night to accomplish might take some other girl twenty minutes. for some, weight loss is a piece of…um…cake. for others it’s (ahem) no picnic.
I’ve been a skinny girl, and I’ve been a fat girl. these days, I’m a fat fan.
when I first met my ex, he said “you’d be beautiful if you lost weight.” I said “okay!” I wound up losing about 70 pounds before he’d finally find my shape acceptable.
for me to accomplish “skinny”, it took a diet of less than 1000 calories a day, one hour of cardio (a 6 or 7 mile run at a 7-8.5 min pace) a day and another four or five hours a week at the gym doing machines, aerobics, middle-eastern dance, etc. figure in time to get to and from the gym, time to shower and tend to gym clothes, and time preparing special non-fat, non-carb food, and that about took up all the time I wasn’t at the office or doing housework or fucking or sleeping.
yep. I got skinny. 5 ft. even and 98 rock hard pounds. I felt AWFUL.
and that rat bastard still ran around giving his phone number to other women, women heavier and curvier and, well, fatter than me. I know men like to look, and I don’t begrudge that, but damn!
I kept waiting for how ultrafabulouswonderful my life would be, you know, after I had lost all that weight. it wasn’t. I didn’t like being stared at by strangers. I didn’t like how my bones ached and my hair got all gross and I felt so goddamned tired all the time. For seven years all I wanted was to sit down for a minute and have a beer and read a book.
we broke up. It started to hurt to exercise. I got fat. I guess I’ve gained back about 50 of the 70 pounds I lost. strangely, I feel somewhat better now.
as for my man now, well, I guess he’s not complaining…not as of last night, anyway…;) and I kind of dig heavy bearded guys (I’m weird like that), so we make a good pair. we do both wish we could get some exercise and be healthier. but neither of us are bitching.
all the fat chicks in the world could drop all their excess weight overnight and women would still be vain, greedy, materialistic, pitiless, cruel, wasteful, impetuous and boring.
I am not a trainer or dietitian and I don’t want to comment on your personal life too much, but I would just like to add my two cents.
Drastically changing yourself for one person like that was a bad idea. Demanding people like that need to be weeded out. Of course he gave his number to others, he already rejected you when he insisted on the change; he kept you around because he could.
Even at 5 ft., 98 lbs is thin. Even being 130-140 would have been okay. It is surprising what even a small change can do-I know. You can’t do well in anything at less than 1,000 calories a day.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by disconnect on Jan 19, 2006, 4:08pm
Scholarlee, you wasted yourself pretty bad on that diet. I find that anything less than 1600 cals leaves me sluggish and fatigued. To get a rough estimate of your maintenance requirement, take your body mass in lbs and multiply by 12.
Anyways, a woman who is active and doesn’t make excuses is attractive to me. The ‘I don’t want to get too big’ line is pathetic. It takes decades to look like tom platz or lee priest. Not the 3 times a week 30 min slow jog + some machines routine, but years of hitting the hard iron, eating right things at right times, and, pretty often, the juice. It’s not that hard to keep in shape. Really.
How can a woman who doesn’t respect herself expect me to respect her? And as to why women (and alot of people in general) get fat.
It starts in high school. Most teenagers have a naturally high metabolism, so a pizza every saturday will not show up on the radar. They can eat whatever they want and stay thin. Then, as they get older, their metabolism begins to slow down. These people are still eating what they used to, but ‘for some reason’ it’s not working anymore. So basically, it’s not a case of a person ‘letting herself go’. She’s just doing things the way she’s used to, and for most of her life it kept her thin. By that time, though, the habit is so deeply routed, that it’s pretty hard to break it.
I’m one of those guys who pigged out on crap in grade school. Now, I will suffer the consequences for the rest of my life. The childhood is when the majority of fat cells form. The amount depends on your diet and activity level. When you work out and lose weight, you do not ‘burn’ fat cells. They’re still there, but in depleted form, ready to get filled again. That’s why it’s a constant battle, so the habits must be formed early on.
On a side note, it is theoretically possible for an adult to produce new fat cells through a truly terrible diet for a long time.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by anonymous on Jan 19, 2006, 5:35pm
Jan 19, 2006, 4:08pm, disconnect wrote:Scholarlee, you wasted yourself pretty bad on that diet. I find that anything less than 1600 cals leaves me sluggish and fatigued. To get a rough estimate of your maintenance requirement, take your body mass in lbs and multiply by 12.
Anyways, a woman who is active and doesn’t make excuses is attractive to me. The ‘I don’t want to get too big’ line is pathetic. It takes decades to look like tom platz or lee priest. Not the 3 times a week 30 min slow jog + some machines routine, but years of hitting the hard iron, eating right things at right times, and, pretty often, the juice. It’s not that hard to keep in shape. Really.
How can a woman who doesn’t respect herself expect me to respect her? And as to why women (and alot of people in general) get fat.
It starts in high school. Most teenagers have a naturally high metabolism, so a pizza every saturday will not show up on the radar. They can eat whatever they want and stay thin. Then, as they get older, their metabolism begins to slow down. These people are still eating what they used to, but ‘for some reason’ it’s not working anymore. So basically, it’s not a case of a person ‘letting herself go’. She’s just doing things the way she’s used to, and for most of her life it kept her thin. By that time, though, the habit is so deeply routed, that it’s pretty hard to break it.
I’m one of those guys who pigged out on crap in grade school. Now, I will suffer the consequences for the rest of my life. The childhood is when the majority of fat cells form. The amount depends on your diet and activity level. When you work out and lose weight, you do not ‘burn’ fat cells. They’re still there, but in depleted form, ready to get filled again. That’s why it’s a constant battle, so the habits must be formed early on.
On a side note, it is theoretically possible for an adult to produce new fat cells through a truly terrible diet for a long time.
You might want to look into a supplement called CLA (Conjugated Linoleic Acid). It won’t help you lose weight, but it will help prevent you from gaining fat back after you lost it and considering your body is constantly burning fat stores and then restoring them, CLA can do wonders for long-term weight loss even though it is no thermogenic.
What it does is two things:
One it prevents existing fat cells from adding more lipids to them. Why this happens, researchers are still not sure but they do know that the triglycerides stay around in your system longer with CLA rather than automatically getting stored in your gut.
The other thing it does is it can cause apoptosis of empty fat cells (i.e. programmed cell suicide). This means, that once you have sweated your fat cells down to a manageable level, the CLA somehow triggers your fat cells to kill themselves which can be a great thing for people with excess fat cells because excess fat cells:
(1) Make it easier to absorb fat
(2) Fat is basically an organ and it pumps out all kinds of hormones and proteins which keep you fat, cause inflammation, and contribute to the aging process.
(3) Make it harder for your stubborn fat cells (i.e. cellulite) to get fresh flood from the circulatory system for the lipids inside the fat cells to be dumped into, as well as be signaled by hormones like leptin to dump the fat into your blood stream in the first place.
CLA supposedly will even help sedentary people lose a little bit of weight over time (assuming they are not constantly hitting the all you can eat buffets), but it really shines at helping to keep the fat off as well as keep the muscle on.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by AK47 on Jan 19, 2006, 5:43pm
Jan 19, 2006, 5:35pm, anonymous wrote:
Jan 19, 2006, 4:08pm, disconnect wrote:Scholarlee, you wasted yourself pretty bad on that diet. I find that anything less than 1600 cals leaves me sluggish and fatigued. To get a rough estimate of your maintenance requirement, take your body mass in lbs and multiply by 12.Anyways, a woman who is active and doesn’t make excuses is attractive to me. The ‘I don’t want to get too big’ line is pathetic. It takes decades to look like tom platz or lee priest. Not the 3 times a week 30 min slow jog + some machines routine, but years of hitting the hard iron, eating right things at right times, and, pretty often, the juice. It’s not that hard to keep in shape. Really.
How can a woman who doesn’t respect herself expect me to respect her? And as to why women (and alot of people in general) get fat.
It starts in high school. Most teenagers have a naturally high metabolism, so a pizza every saturday will not show up on the radar. They can eat whatever they want and stay thin. Then, as they get older, their metabolism begins to slow down. These people are still eating what they used to, but ‘for some reason’ it’s not working anymore. So basically, it’s not a case of a person ‘letting herself go’. She’s just doing things the way she’s used to, and for most of her life it kept her thin. By that time, though, the habit is so deeply routed, that it’s pretty hard to break it.
I’m one of those guys who pigged out on crap in grade school. Now, I will suffer the consequences for the rest of my life. The childhood is when the majority of fat cells form. The amount depends on your diet and activity level. When you work out and lose weight, you do not ‘burn’ fat cells. They’re still there, but in depleted form, ready to get filled again. That’s why it’s a constant battle, so the habits must be formed early on.
On a side note, it is theoretically possible for an adult to produce new fat cells through a truly terrible diet for a long time.
You might want to look into a supplement called CLA (Conjugated Linoleic Acid). It won’t help you lose weight, but it will help prevent you from gaining fat back after you lost it and considering your body is constantly burning fat stores and then restoring them, CLA can do wonders for long-term weight loss even though it is no thermogenic.
What it does is two things:
One it prevents existing fat cells from adding more lipids to them. Why this happens, researchers are still not sure but they do know that the triglycerides stay around in your system longer with CLA rather than automatically getting stored in your gut.
The other thing it does is it can cause apoptosis of empty fat cells (i.e. programmed cell suicide). This means, that once you have sweated your fat cells down to a manageable level, the CLA somehow triggers your fat cells to kill themselves which can be a great thing for people with excess fat cells because excess fat cells:
(1) Make it easier to absorb fat
(2) Fat is basically an organ and it pumps out all kinds of hormones and proteins which keep you fat, cause inflammation, and contribute to the aging process.
(3) Make it harder for your stubborn fat cells (i.e. cellulite) to get fresh flood from the circulatory system for the lipids inside the fat cells to be dumped into, as well as be signaled by hormones like leptin to dump the fat into your blood stream in the first place.CLA supposedly will even help sedentary people lose a little bit of weight over time (assuming they are not constantly hitting the all you can eat buffets), but it really shines at helping to keep the fat off as well as keep the muscle on.
You ought to look into a supplement called “duct tape.”
It would do wonders in helping you shut that big mouth of yours.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by disconnect on Jan 19, 2006, 8:38pm
Is this CLA available in health stores?
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by youngbuck on Jan 20, 2006, 2:07am
I think men choose mates based on their options and what they think is attainable to them. Take a look at some of these alleged BBW lovers, they are not exactly the cream of the crop either. Who was the last millionaire playboy with a 300lb girlfriend? You’ll never find one. His wealth gives him options to get much better. If these guys had options, trust me, they would not be with these obese women, but that’s all they can get or think they can. Beggars can’t be choosers I suppose.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by anonymous on Jan 20, 2006, 2:52am
Jan 19, 2006, 8:38pm, disconnect wrote:Is this CLA available in health stores?
Yes, you can get it at the supermarket as well. Just make sure it has the Tonalin brand used unless you ask the health food store worker about other brands which are more than just expensive syrup or cooking oil pills sold as CLA.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by HK on Jan 20, 2006, 4:18am
Your HOT girlfriend will get fat with the passing of time.
I suppose that all the men here critical of FAT chicks have slim bodies with abs themselves… don’t you?
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by khankrumthebulgar on Jan 20, 2006, 9:11am
Women expect men to have six pack Abs. They want Men to be Masculine, rugged, tough and aggressive. They say otherwise but watch who they go after. I have a Friend a buddy who fits this bill. He has to beat them off with a stick. He and I are like Doc Holiday and Wyatt Earp. I have no problem with female attention. The trouble is I am not interested in the Women who throw themselves at me. I am becoming disinterested in AW. A hot looking one opens her mouth with some insult on Men and I next her ass.
It literally shocks them. In fact they want me all that much more when I tell them not to bother calling me and that I will not be calling them. Its the old story they want what they can’t have. And they are not used to a Male who won’t tolerate their shit.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by Fat ChrisVet on Jan 20, 2006, 5:13pm
Bones are for the dog, meat is for the man. 
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by antiriad on Jan 20, 2006, 5:16pm
Hmm could you please elaborate …
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by travis on Jan 20, 2006, 6:00pm
Meat != Fat
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by TyHigs on Jan 20, 2006, 6:18pm
Jan 20, 2006, 2:07am, youngbuck wrote:I think men choose mates based on their options and what they think is attainable to them. Take a look at some of these alleged BBW lovers, they are not exactly the cream of the crop either. Who was the last millionaire playboy with a 300lb girlfriend? You’ll never find one. His wealth gives him options to get much better. If these guys had options, trust me, they would not be with these obese women, but that’s all they can get or think they can. Beggars can’t be choosers I suppose.
I suppose I could never be a politician. I am too blunt when I say things. Thats why I had guys like JDB exploding on me, but with you he remains silent, even though you’ve basically said the same exact thing I said, just in different words.
Maybe years of living with cold, distant people cause me not to worry who gets upset? I’m not in control of anyone’s emotions. They are. They choose to get angry. Otherwise there’s a lack of self control.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by TyHigs on Jan 20, 2006, 6:22pm
Jan 20, 2006, 9:11am, khankrumthebulgar wrote:
It literally shocks them. In fact they want me all that much more when I tell them not to bother calling me and that I will not be calling them. Its the old story they want what they can’t have. And they are not used to a Male who won’t tolerate their shit.
I think most women are stupid like this. I was seeing this one girl multiple times but she didnt want to have sex. I asked if she wanted to be my GF. She said no. I said “fuck off.” She asks “Will you call me?” I said “What for?” Then walked away.
The next day her best friend is sending me 5 text messages about how NOW she wants to be my GF after I told her to fuck off.
STUPID.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by dataguy on Jan 20, 2006, 7:18pm
Personally, I stand 5′10″ and weigh 150 and have a 32″ waistline, in my forties. And it didn’t just happen. It’s the product of deliberate diet and exercise.
As far as I’m concerned, the fact that I take care of myself means, among other things, that I’m entitled to not have to put up with chicks that weigh as much or more than I do. And it’s amazing how many of them do. I swear women in my age group are such cows. And don’t even get me started on women in their 30s.
So sorry, PC/Feminazi/Socialist/Perpetual Therapy bitches. Fat chicks are losers. The only bigger losers are the guys that fuck them.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by anonymous on Jan 20, 2006, 7:34pm
Jan 20, 2006, 7:18pm, dataguy wrote:Personally, I stand 5′10″ and weigh 150 and have a 32″ waistline, in my forties. And it didn’t just happen. It’s the product of deliberate diet and exercise.
As far as I’m concerned, the fact that I take care of myself means, among other things, that I’m entitled to not have to put up with chicks that weigh as much or more than I do. And it’s amazing how many of them do. I swear women in my age group are such cows. And don’t even get me started on women in their 30s.
So sorry, PC/Feminazi/Socialist/Perpetual Therapy bitches. Fat chicks are losers. The only bigger losers are the guys that fuck them.
That is your own personal judgement and you are entitled to it, but that is like some golddigger saying if you marry any guy who makes less than 100,000 dollars a year, then she is a loser.
I do think women tend to gravitate to extremes when it comes to standards. I know women who have no standards in dating guys (and generally no self-esteem either) and then there are the ones at the other extreme who thinks they are god’s greatest gift to this planet and all men should worship her.
But yah, if you work hard to keep yourself in good shape, then there is no reason why women should be expected for you to be attracted to them if they are out of shape. Then again, even if you are out of shape it is still your right to decide what your standards in women happen to be.
For me, I am not that picky on looks, but I do put a premium on a woman having good character and that she have a brain. Why? Well, I have been in enough bad relationships to know that stupid women make stupid decisions and immoral women make immoral decisions. Of course, I find it both stupid and immoral to get extremely fat, but I don’t expect women at age 30+ to look as good as they did when they are 18.
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Re: Are you a fatist?
Post by disconnect on Jan 21, 2006, 2:05pm
Quote:That is your own personal judgement
Well, no shit! It’s his life and he gets to decide how to live it. The problem is, no one wants him to decide on his own. Women would rather tell him to date fat chicks (themselves), against his own standards. If you compare it to a golddigger not dating anyone with a small paycheck, fine, but the outcomes of the two situations are different. With men being more aware, it’s getting pretty hard to hook rich guys. A man doesn’t become rich by being an idiot.
Quote:if you work hard to keep yourself in good shape, then there is no reason why women should be expected for you to be attracted to them if they are out of shape. Then again, even if you are out of shape it is still your right to decide what your standards in women happen to be.
Just like a poor lazy woman expecting a rich man to bail her out every time she fails at life? It won’t happen. In other words, a golddigger is a leech, while dataguy (or any guy with standards involving looks ie. every guy), who tries hard to hold up his end of the bargain by working out, is justified in expecting the same diligence to appearance from his women.
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