Another Strange Question
Another Strange Question:
Post by mija on Dec 19, 2005, 8:44pm
First of all. I have learned much more than I bargained for reading and posting on this forum. It’s got me thinking about my own relationships and how vast the population of men who think the way you all do. AW are the devil- end of story. (snicker-snicker)
I wonder if this applies to the man I share my life with now, but does not openly share his view for fear of being “outed”. Truth is, I do not blame any of you for feeling the way you do about western women and society today. In all it’s ’splendor’, it has diminished the true meaning of togetherness and commitment between two. Why?
Since the age of 6 every girl dreams of the “perfect” life. And the idea of that perfect life was a handsome husband, a huge wedding with too many guests, a large diamond ring to PROVE that he loved you along with that white picket fence, the dog and 2 children. I remember my grandmother specifically telling me to marry for money. I will be happy to share that I had always thought that was a crock.
Now that I’m at the “age of accountability” NOT the average AW and taking the biggest gamble possible, in my own relationship. I ask, if some of you men have relationships with AW that are exactly the opposite of what is described here on these forums? Close to ideal? Does that exist here in THIS community?
I suppose that’s 3 questions.
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Re: Another Strange Question:
Post by mija on Dec 19, 2005, 9:15pm
That’s really too bad. Happy evening to all.
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Re: Another Strange Question:
Post by travis on Dec 19, 2005, 9:17pm
Um..there was a 30 minute gap between these two posts. You think we all check this site every 5 minutes?
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Re: Another Strange Question:
Post by mija on Dec 19, 2005, 9:19pm
Dec 19, 2005, 9:17pm, travis wrote:Um..there was a 30 minute gap between these two posts. You think we all check this site every 5 minutes?
Good point. I suppose not. Thanks for pointing that out!
I was busy with something else and looked back to see that 20 something had read but no reply. I was hoping for at least 1 within those 20.
Just looking for the good in all of this.
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Re: Another Strange Question:
Post by travis on Dec 19, 2005, 9:31pm
Mija, I think those 3 questions would be better asked at some place where the main focus is about dating, not about boycotting women. At the top of my head, the intellectual whores forum would be such a place to ask.
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Re: Another Strange Question:
Post by thechief on Dec 19, 2005, 9:36pm
I haven’t myself, but I know of exactly two good marriages among my contemporaries (I’m 38). Or at least they seem to be good–I’m a firm believer in the idea that nobody really knows what goes on in any relationship other than the two people involved.
Which doesn’t mean, of course, that YOU can’t be a good American Woman. Take from this board whatever applies to you, leave the rest, expect your man to be good to you but not perfect. Sounds like you already have the right attitude.
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Re: Another Strange Question:
Post by openeyes on Dec 19, 2005, 9:53pm
I personally know of one happy marriage with kids, and I’ve mentioned it on here before. Both people are on their second marriage, with the first for each having been bad enough to make many people consider never marrying again. Another fairly good marriage took place after it was too late to have kids, with both partners being well off financially.
As for my own relationships, the most fulfilling ones I have with women are primarily friendships. Somewhat sadly, the better I understand how to build attraction in women, the more difficult it is to respect them in general. They’ve been knocked off most any pedestal I’d placed them on in the past. A few can be relatively rewarding as friends though.
Due to the university I attend, the majority of women I spend time with are from stable two parent, upper-middle class families. My current favorite female friend I’ve known for a few years now. Her dad taught her to give back massages and to avoid the credit card trap, plus she enjoys cooking for me. Some women here are still fairly reserved and nurturing.
Still, one can’t see them as perfect (no one in this society is). Even among the most innocent, don’t be surprised if they either have a few tattoos or are considering one. You can tell them about the effects of laws being directed towards men, and while they’ll listen and act shocked, don’t be surprised when the only meaningful response they can give is a smirk, unless you show how the laws hurt women. I don’t expect any of them to fight for men. Most of them aren’t even worth trusting with one’s thoughts.
I don’t like seeming bitter or jaded about this sort of thing, and would love for life to prove me wrong. In five or ten years I’ll likely travel a bit and see if marriage is worthwhile anywhere. Regardless though, I’ll go on finding ways to enjoy my own life, and help a few guys out along the way.
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Re: Another Strange Question:
Post by Simpson on Dec 19, 2005, 10:13pm
Dec 19, 2005, 8:44pm, mija wrote:
I remember my grandmother specifically telling me to marry for money. I will be happy to share that I had always thought that was a crock.
Grandmother was right, marry for money means marry young with an older man. But it is also a manner of timing.
Read some of John Ross’ site, I recommend this for a starter and you might discover you were hood-winked.
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Re: Another Strange Question:
Post by khankrumthebulgar on Dec 20, 2005, 11:00am
My oldest daughter married young and has 3 boys. She has embraced a male positive outlook and has a happy marriage as a result. Life is not perfect neither is she nor her Husband but they try hard. My youngest Daughter is a Senior in High School. I am proud of her, she is very extroverted, an outstanding student and very passionate about life. She is also very demure, and not into the immoral behavior that is so common. Why?
Church and religion. Her Mother, Grandmothers and older Females pre Feminism have had long talks with her. I worry about her happiness.
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Re: Another Strange Question:
Post by maxbedroomjbgood2 on Dec 20, 2005, 12:46pm
My brother in law has a good relationship with his wife and kids and he doesn’t share my views upon society, women etc. Maybe because he dealt with a life experience which caused him to say wtf? Wherein, his wifes sisters who never liked him because he wouldn’t put up with their bullshit engineered an incident which ultimately resulted in his wife saying ” If you want to see me you have to accept my husband”. He’s a good provider, husband, father, worker and he didn’t deserve the shit they gave him. Now any skank who goes to the house knows not to mess with their relationship. He also doesn’t let the TV (Oprah and her pals) take over the house. They have a small TV that can receive only the 5 analogue channels we have here in the UK and he only has a set top antennae that gives a shit picture! They all have a computer and a good supply of books if they need unbiased information All in all he has kept the feminist message to a minimum in his house without identifying the problem to anyone.
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Re: Another Strange Question:
Post by John Ross on Dec 20, 2005, 1:27pm
“My youngest Daughter is a Senior in High School. I am proud of her, she is very extroverted, an outstanding student and very passionate about life. She is also very demure, and not into the immoral behavior that is so common. Why?
“Church and religion. Her Mother, Grandmothers and older Females pre Feminism have had long talks with her. I worry about her happiness.”
Khank, I find this confusing. First, you say that your daughter is the way she is because pre-Feminism females had long talks with her, and one of them was her mother. This is you ex, no?
And you say your daughter is “an outstanding student and very passionate about life. She is also very demure, and not into the immoral behavior that is so common.”
Why do you worry about her happiness?
JR
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Re: Another Strange Question:
Post by John Ross on Dec 20, 2005, 1:50pm
Mija, what’s this “biggest gamble possible” of yours?
To address your questions, I don’t think the views of those that post on this board are typical of men in America. But the number of men that share our views is growing, because the Internet has made them realize that their bad experiences are NOT the exception, they’re the norm.
Do I know of good unions? A few, but the risk/reward ratio is awful.
JR
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Re: Another Strange Question:
Post by TyHigs on Dec 20, 2005, 1:58pm
I’m just to the point of – who cares anymore?
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Re: Another Strange Question:
Post by openeyes on Dec 20, 2005, 2:02pm
Dec 20, 2005, 1:58pm, TyHigs wrote:I’m just to the point of – who cares anymore?
Indeed. So long as the person is healthy and fun, it’s not a big deal to me. I’m not looking to commit to anyone right now anyhow.
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Re: Another Strange Question:
Post by SingleMan on Dec 20, 2005, 2:13pm
Blah Blah Blah. Please learn to shut the hell up, and quit posting BS questions just to hear yourself “talk”.
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Re: Another Strange Question:
Post by JimP on Dec 20, 2005, 2:36pm
First of all, looking from the outside, you can tell when a marriage is BAD, but you can never tell if it’s really GOOD. But that’s not even the main point.
How many American wives do you know that will accept the fact that her husband will have a mistress and a few other girlfriends that he cheats on his mistress with as normal male behavior? I’ve never met an American woman like that. Has anyone else on this board? Yet pretty much all foreign women, even from western countries like France will accept this as normal.
Forget whether there are good or bad American Women. American Women ARE TAUGHT FROM BIRTH THAT THEY ARE THE SUPERIOR SEX AND HAVE THE RIGHT TO CONTROL THEIR MEN, and by marrying in America you give a woman so much control that even in a good relationship, you’re still a slave.
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