6 years older
6 years older
Post by guest on Jan 9, 2006, 9:41am
Anyone have an opinion about dating older women? I’m an average Joe (fit and not bad looking at all, but not a playa-type either). This woman is divorced but her previous husband was a real loser. She has a decent job is educated, no kids (but wants them) or debt and we don’t argue. I’m 30 and not getting younger. Looking at the dating pool is scary. I’m thinking of getting a prenup drawn up and marrying her. I feel like I’m the only one not married with kids. Thoughts?
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Re: 6 years older
Post by sirlancelot on Jan 9, 2006, 9:53am
It sounds like you just want to get married because you feel obliged too. That’s no reason though.
You’re only 30. For a woman that is time to start panicking and finding a spouse; for a man, however, you’re barely into your prime. If you are determined to get married you will still be eligible in 15-years time or longer. And a pre-nup is often worthless, depending on which country/state you live. Don’t rush into anything.
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Re: 6 years older
Post by Pugnatious1 on Jan 9, 2006, 10:39am
1. A pre-nup looses most of it’s power as soon are children born. You said she wants kids so a per-nup really won’t do you any good.
2. Was her first husband really such a loser? Have you met this guy or is she the one that told you what a loser he is. Before you even think of marrying a divorcee you must find out the entire story about why her first marriage didn’t work out. Not just from her and her friends. You need to talk to some of his friends.
3. Your 30 years old…what the heck are you doing dating a 36 year old divorcee with baby rabies? I am 36 and I don’t want to date 36 year old women on their second trip around the block.
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Re: 6 years older
Post by Simpson on Jan 9, 2006, 10:48am
I’d mention the marriage thread over on FC.
Married men – post here if you hate your life
Older, younger, what the fuck is it going to matter when you aren’t getting any and are a miserable fuck.
You are a tool, she wants to think she is “young”, so dating a younger man is the means to show her girlfriends she still has it.
Dump that bitch.
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Re: 6 years older
Post by antiriad on Jan 9, 2006, 11:06am
Jan 9, 2006, 9:41am, guest wrote:Anyone have an opinion about dating older women? I’m an average Joe (fit and not bad looking at all, but not a playa-type either). This woman is divorced but her previous husband was a real loser. She has a decent job is educated, no kids (but wants them) or debt and we don’t argue. I’m 30 and not getting younger. Looking at the dating pool is scary. I’m thinking of getting a prenup drawn up and marrying her. I feel like I’m the only one not married with kids. Thoughts?
Yes, here are my thoughts. That’s the worst reason to get married: insecurity. Grow a pair. You sound extremely brainwashed to me. If you marry her, I guarantee you this: she will pop out a kid or two, feel “emotionally unfulfilled” soon after that, dump your ass, and turn you into a wage slave.
I am willing to bet $100 that this will happen within seven years after you marry her. Also, forget about sex; you won’t be getting any. She will be busy whoring it up with outlaw bikers at the local bars. If you are lucky, the kid you’ll be paying for for 18 years will be yours. But I doubt it.
Seriously – you have got to be kidding me!! ” I feel like I’m the only one not married with kids.” You sound like a woman – you have serious identity problems. And that’s my advice for today.
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Re: 6 years older
Post by anonymous on Jan 9, 2006, 11:19am
Jan 9, 2006, 9:41am, guest wrote:Anyone have an opinion about dating older women? I’m an average Joe (fit and not bad looking at all, but not a playa-type either). This woman is divorced but her previous husband was a real loser. She has a decent job is educated, no kids (but wants them) or debt and we don’t argue. I’m 30 and not getting younger. Looking at the dating pool is scary. I’m thinking of getting a prenup drawn up and marrying her. I feel like I’m the only one not married with kids. Thoughts?
How do you know he is a real loser? Because she told you he was? Did you hear his side of the story or are you willing to take this woman’s story about him (which may either be delusional at best or a pack of outright lies) as gospel?
Besides she picked him and got knocked up by him. It is not like men don’t have “red flags” which women can pick up on as them being “losers” or not. That is not to say this guy may not be a total loser (whatever that means), but you shouldn’t take her word for it.
And DON’T MARRY DIVORCED WOMEN WITH OR WITHOUT KIDS PERIOD!
I am 30 as well and not getting any younger, but the worst thing you can do is act like a woman and put an artificial biological clock on yourself which causes you to make some really bad decisions later on.
I myself am seeing a woman who is 4 years older than me, but she is not divorced and she doesn’t have any baggage with her as well.
AGAIN DON’T MARRY HER. Before you know it, she will have convinced you to adopt her children since her ex is apparently such a “loser” and then the next thing you will know you will be paying child support out the wazoo for kids that are not even yours as prenups do not cover child custody proceedings.
If you ignore the objective evidence about her (married a man she calls a loser, has no respect for and thinks she is faultless, and chose to have kids with a “loser) you might as well just be some schmuck in Vegas who thinks he is going to get rich on slot machines because he “feels” like he is lucky on that particular day.
There are good women out there but you just have to be patient and go through a lot of them before you find one worth spending more than an evening over a cup of coffee with. Either that or don’t get married at all or else look for greener pastures for a wife if you are really desperate. My best friend is now divorced with kids and he felt the same way in that he thinks of himself as “an average Joe” and now he is paying the price both literally and figuratively for settling for a bad, bad woman.
Ignore divorcees and single moms like the plague. Been down both of those roads before and I learned the hard way. You can choose to learn the easy way or the hard way depending on whose advice you listen to.
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Re: 6 years older
Post by King Karan on Jan 9, 2006, 11:41am
The bet is on! I put $200 that she flips within 5 years (provided they have a kid the first year).
1. “Well educated”. Vast majority of US schools are hotbeds of feminism.
2. “Previous husband was a real loser”. If she told you that, run.
3. “She is older”. As time goes by, that becomes an issue, priorities change for both of you. 4. “We don’t argue.” Wait a year or two and you will feel the world’s wisdom on your skin.
I cannot emphasize enough that the described situation offers the absolute WORST reasons to marry! But then, you wont believe how many men are disilusioned and just shooting in the dark nowadays.
So listen up my friend: from my experience — and I experienced far worse, direct pressure — it does not matter whether the pool of available women is “scary”, whether she is in a hurry to have a kid or replace a husband, it does not matter one bit whether the Moon is made of green cheese …
What matters is YOU, or rather when when YOU are ready and willing to marry! Period. Entire civilizations were organized around this moment! You are the one to live with this divorcee, not the world. If thirst for children occurs in you, your body will tell you, it is in your bones. But that is not the unsure feeling described above.
DON’T MARRY, all the variables you mentioned will change for the worse, it is almost a certainty!
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Re: 6 years older
Post by CP on Jan 9, 2006, 12:17pm
I see no problem getting romantically involved with an older woman. Six years difference puts you within the same generation, and thus you two are more apt to understand the world as it has been in your lifetimes. I don’t really suppose being romantically involved with someone who is even older presents too many problems of their own nature, but it is tougher.
The only red flags I see as pertaining to your situation have been voiced already in this thread. At 36 years old, with no children, she is likely suffering from Baby Rabies, latter-tertiary stage. In this respect, you can kiss how much she “loves” you goodbye once you donate your DNA. I am cognizant of the fact that I don’t know this woman and have not seen your dynamic first-hand, and so I can only play at statistical analysis…you will be second-string to her once that kid is conceived. I can tell you first-hand that this is not a temporary thing. Does she speak in terms of her wanting to have kids, or does she speak in terms of her right to have kids? Does she speak of it being the “right” or “normal” way of living?
The first scenario isn’t so bad, unless you don’t share that sentiment.
The second one is a huge flag, as it isn’t about creating something together, nor loving and caring for the child together.
The third one is just succumbing to erroneous-through-common-usage. Just because millions procreate every day doesn’t make it the normal or right thing to do. If this is the reasoning, then it’s entirely the wrong one to have kids to begin with.
Kids by necessity are more needful of love and support. The biggest mistake people make though, is that they come to see the marriage and life in general as being all about the kids; it isn’t. In a marriage, your spouse is the most important aspect of the partnership. Once that is lost, it is lost for good. I don’t know a single man or woman who is a parent that is effervescently happy once their kids are grown and on their own. Yes, there is a sense of accomplishment, and rightfully so…but that is not what marriage is all about. It’s about each other, first and foremost. Everything else is what you share.
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Re: 6 years older
Post by JimP on Jan 9, 2006, 1:40pm
Jan 9, 2006, 9:41am, guest wrote:Looking at the dating pool is scary.
This is the real reason you want to get married, isn’t it? I can only tell you one thing. The reason why the dating pool is scary is that YOU ARE TRYING TO DATE THE WORST, MOST BITCHY, SKANKY, UGLY, FAT, OLD, DISGUSTING, FUCKED-IN-THE-HEAD WOMEN IN THE WORLD — AMERICAN WOMEN. Why don’t you take a trip to Brazil or Eastern Europe for a week. Then you won’t feel that the dating pool is scary anymore. For god’s sake, ANY 36 year old woman in Kiev would be BEGGING YOU TO LET HER SUCK YOUR DICK.
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Re: 6 years older
Post by antiriad on Jan 9, 2006, 2:01pm
Jan 9, 2006, 1:40pm, JimP wrote:
Jan 9, 2006, 9:41am, guest wrote:Looking at the dating pool is scary.This is the real reason you want to get married, isn’t it? I can only tell you one thing. The reason why the dating pool is scary is that YOU ARE TRYING TO DATE THE WORST, MOST BITCHY, SKANKY, UGLY, FAT, OLD, DISGUSTING, FUCKED-IN-THE-HEAD WOMEN IN THE WORLD — AMERICAN WOMEN. Why don’t you take a trip to Brazil or Eastern Europe for a week. Then you won’t feel that the dating pool is scary anymore. For god’s sake, ANY 36 year old woman in Kiev would be BEGGING YOU TO LET HER SUCK YOUR DICK.
She’ll probably be toothless too, for added pleasure!
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Re: 6 years older
Post by khankrumthebulgar on Jan 9, 2006, 2:27pm
Dear Bro,
I have been married twice. I am the Father of 5 kids who I dearly love. The oldest are responsible Adults Married with children of their own. Yet in hindsight knowing what I know now. I would never have married. Why? My Grandsons are growing up in an anti-Male culture that will tax, penalize, and exploit them.
Both wives were very amorous before marriage. Once Married the sex life deteriorated rapidly. Second Marriage was celibate for 6 years. Despite two bouts with Marriage Counseling. Which is like a circle jerk you get to pay for. It is about you changing to make her happy, she does nothing to accommodate your needs.
My second Marriage Counselor was a FemNag and I told her to stuff it Bitch. You are anti-Male my needs are not being considered here, and this is BS. Nice scam you are running I am on to it. Second wife threw a fit, by then I didn’t care anymore anyway. I told her and the counselor, this is simple One way relationships are exploitive. I am through being your cuckold. Get another sucker to put up with your BS.
This is a living arrangement, not a marriage. You are not holding up your end of the deal. Prozac Queen, on Pain Meds, and a medicine cabinet full of Prescription medications. My life has become a lot more sane since I broke up.
If you want children go exPat. Your risks are greatly diminished. Cupcake always changes after the ceremony it never fails. They change and Men don’t want to change. Ask her point blank “Do you see who I am”?
“Do you have any doubts that what you see is what you get”? I asked that question of my second wife. Almost immediately the behavior Modification began. I think that many Men are so beaten down Mentally that they long for death to be freed of their Master (Wife). It is a welcome relief from decades of emotional Manipulation, and abuse.
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Re: 6 years older
Post by JimP on Jan 9, 2006, 2:30pm
Jan 9, 2006, 2:01pm, antiriad wrote:
Jan 9, 2006, 1:40pm, JimP wrote:This is the real reason you want to get married, isn’t it? I can only tell you one thing. The reason why the dating pool is scary is that YOU ARE TRYING TO DATE THE WORST, MOST BITCHY, SKANKY, UGLY, FAT, OLD, DISGUSTING, FUCKED-IN-THE-HEAD WOMEN IN THE WORLD — AMERICAN WOMEN. Why don’t you take a trip to Brazil or Eastern Europe for a week. Then you won’t feel that the dating pool is scary anymore. For god’s sake, ANY 36 year old woman in Kiev would be BEGGING YOU TO LET HER SUCK YOUR DICK.
She’ll probably be toothless too, for added pleasure!
Well, you know what they say about a perfect woman, 4 feet high, no teeth and a flat head…
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Re: 6 years older
Post by Admin on Jan 9, 2006, 6:02pm
> I’m 30 and not getting younger
Marry if you want to have kids with her, and spend your life with her, and intertwine everything about your lives.
Marry her b/c she’s amazing.
Not b/c you’re insecure.
Do not marry out of panic.
and perception of lack of options.
why?
If you have kept in shape, and have built any kind of career…and led an intersting life the next 5 years will be the best dating years of your life… (I can’t comment on late 30s and beyond) why? B/c you are better than you’ve ever been….in all regards women value.
Also, your dating pool is only increasing with each passing year. In your early 30s…You can now date women from age 20 to 40, if you want to. This is a mathematical fact. Your options are going to increase 5fold
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Re: 6 years older
Post by uzername on Jan 9, 2006, 11:22pm
An experience l had with a business partner taught me the value of due diligence. And the best form of due diligence is to go straight to the horses mouth. l regret not picking up the phone and calling this guys previous business partner. I asked the biz partner if he would mind me calling this fella and he protested vehemently. Would have saved myself time, money and grief if l followed MY INSTINCT and picked up the phone, without asking permission.
Methinks your instinct is telling you NO, which is why you are at this site. Its fine to look for reasons in a place like this but dont ignore what your gut is telling you. A man’s intuition NEVER LIES.
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Re: 6 years older
Post by 1ofstrength on Jan 10, 2006, 1:12pm
Jan 9, 2006, 11:19am, anonymous wrote:
And DON’T MARRY DIVORCED WOMEN WITH OR WITHOUT KIDS PERIOD!
Bingo! Once a woman has been divorced, she will always have this thought in the back of her mind: “Hey, I survived one divorce, I can survive another.”
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