“That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
“That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by Guest on Dec 25, 2005, 7:01pm
A close friend thought that Christmas would be so much more special now that he has a GF to share it with. Well, he called to tell me that little miss princess is all upset with him because he bought her earrings that she doesn’t like.
He’s upset because he could see the disappointment on her face when she opened the box. He didn’t say anything to her because he was basically shocked at her reaction. This is what Christmas is supposed to be about? This is what being in a relationship with a woman is supposed to be about?
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by antiriad on Dec 25, 2005, 7:12pm
If he doesn’t next her tomorrow, he’s asking for a world of fucking pain and anguish. She is clearly not interested in him romantically. I hate to say it, but either she’s a selfish piece of shit (and would be interested in nobody), or they’re simply incompatible. Either way, he’s wasting his time.
Let me put it a different way: I have dated quite a few women and while they were all a big pain in the ass, I never bought any of them shit for xmas (or their birthdays or any other event for that matter) and they absolutely never faulted me for it. In fact, they were the ones who ended up buying me gifts a lot of times. Mind you, my relationships did involve romance.
So tell him this: if she were truly romantically interested in him, the gift he got her wouldn’t mean dick. Women see men as romantic prospects or as meal tickets. That she is pissed off about the gift indicates beyond the shadow of a doubt that she sees him as the latter. And no, there is no 50-50 in this case. It’s romance or meal ticket, the two are not compatible. This is why women go after Butch the meth cook romantically and then use Frank the accountant as a supplicant.
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by King Karan on Dec 25, 2005, 7:29pm
antiriad: sorry, there is no 50-50 and there never was! No such thing!
Just as one needs to know what and when and to whom to give, one also needs to know how to receive a gift. It is a matter of class to be civil and polite in receiving a gift. You may also refuse the gift and still be polite about it. This woman is accepting it and is obnoxious to the max. If he does not dump her tomorrow, he should at least make a very big deal about it in her face – so she is shamed and never does anything like this again.
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by Guest on Dec 25, 2005, 7:41pm
Dec 25, 2005, 7:29pm, King Karan wrote:antiriad: sorry, there is no 50-50 and there never was! No such thing!
Just as one needs to know what and when and to whom to give, one also needs to know how to receive a gift. It is a matter of class to be civil and politi in receiving a gift. You may also refuse the gift and still be polite about it. This woman is accepting it and is obnoxious to the max. If he does not dump her tomorrow, he should at least make a very big deal about it in her face – so she is shamed and never does anything like this again.
She’s just a selfish, spoiled princess. She really thinks that it’s her BF’s job to make sure that she’s happy all the time. She thrives on gifts, compliments and money being thrown at her. It’s been this way with all her past BF’s too. She’s good looking but the clock is ticking. At 33, she can’t keep this up much longer. I had a similar run in with a spoiled woman and I know how he feels. You’re doing the right thing. You put effort into it and you’re not even shown the courtesy of a thank you. Even if she didn’t like it, there’s a way you go about it. Definitely not the way she did.
A real pig.
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by travis on Dec 25, 2005, 9:26pm
Dec 25, 2005, 7:29pm, King Karan wrote:antiriad: sorry, there is no 50-50 and there never was! No such thing!
Th….there’s no such thing as a Middle Ground?!
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by Ditch the Bitch Now on Dec 25, 2005, 9:59pm
I would kick this bitch to the curb right away. First, I would get mad and tell her “You bitch, give me the fucking earrings back ! I will get my money back. Go fuck yourself!”
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by morpheus on Dec 25, 2005, 10:00pm
Dec 25, 2005, 7:41pm, Guest wrote:She’s just a selfish, spoiled princess. She really thinks that it’s her BF’s job to make sure that she’s happy all the time. She thrives on gifts, compliments and money being thrown at her. It’s been this way with all her past BF’s too. She’s good looking but the clock is ticking. At 33, she can’t keep this up much longer.
Given this intelligence, it’s likely she was expecting an alternate piece of jewelry, an item that goes on her finger rather than in her earlobes. I had a similar experience: Valentine’s Day. She totally dissed the gifts I gave her citing that I should have worked hard to top what I gave her the previous year. A few days later she admits that she was hoping for a marriage proposal.
In retrospect, on V-day night I really wish I had dumped her on the spot when she told me point blank that I didn’t give her good enough V-day gifts and that she was upset because of it. “Make your expectations very clear to your NEXT boyfriend.”
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by MercilessMing on Dec 25, 2005, 10:01pm
What a shame, that you all decided the GF is a “piece of shit” based on that… My FB has given me gifts that I don’t particularly care for, but I care about HIM more than the gift and that doesn’t make me a piece of shit. What’s sad is he believes the crap that’s posted on these women-hater sites.
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by HJ8 on Dec 25, 2005, 10:16pm
Dec 25, 2005, 10:01pm, MercilessMing wrote:What a shame, that you all decided the GF is a “piece of shit” based on that… My FB has given me gifts that I don’t particularly care for, but I care about HIM more than the gift and that doesn’t make me a piece of shit. What’s sad is he believes the crap that’s posted on these women-hater sites.
The way she acted is a symptom of the severe swissing of the cheese that resides where her brain should be. All that’s being said is that she’s an unappreciative bitch.
If you appreciate your BF, great. So why are you trolling here?
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by Just a guy on Dec 25, 2005, 10:21pm
Dec 25, 2005, 10:01pm, MercilessMing wrote:What a shame, that you all decided the GF is a “piece of shit” based on that… My FB has given me gifts that I don’t particularly care for, but I care about HIM more than the gift and that doesn’t make me a piece of shit. What’s sad is he believes the crap that’s posted on these women-hater sites.
She is a piece of shit based on that you dumbass. It’s called gold digging. That makes her a parasite. If your guy believes the crap thats posted here it’s because YOU are giving him a reason to. Look no further than the mirror to see whatever causes problems are in your life princess…
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by HappilySingle on Dec 25, 2005, 11:31pm
Dec 25, 2005, 7:29pm, King Karan wrote:If he does not dump her tomorrow, he should at least make a very big deal about it in her face – so she is shamed and never does anything like this again.
This is not a “boot her or make her ashamed” situation – it’s a “boot her AND make her ashamed” situation. If this guy doesn’t NEXT her tomorrow. he’s in for a long period of hell from an unappreciative Oprahbot. No middle ground here – she’s a self-centered entitlement princess-bitch and needs to be treated as such.
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by SumYungGi on Dec 26, 2005, 12:33am
Dec 25, 2005, 10:00pm, morpheus wrote:
Given this intelligence, it’s likely she was expecting an alternate piece of jewelry, an item that goes on her finger rather than in her earlobes. I had a similar experience: Valentine’s Day. She totally dissed the gifts I gave her citing that I should have worked hard to top what I gave her the previous year. A few days later she admits that she was hoping for a marriage proposal.
The very fact a woman thinks of a marriage proposal as a gift is a major red flag. It means she thinks of marriage as something a man does for a woman, and not something two people do with each other.
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by antiriad on Dec 26, 2005, 1:04am
Dec 25, 2005, 10:01pm, MercilessMing wrote:What a shame, that you all decided the GF is a “piece of shit” based on that… My FB has given me gifts that I don’t particularly care for, but I care about HIM more than the gift and that doesn’t make me a piece of shit. What’s sad is he believes the crap that’s posted on these women-hater sites.
Are you on crack? This unappreciative wench gets angry at him for getting the “wrong kind of gift.” Only a nutjob would think that she’s anything but a piece of shit.
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by XXX on Dec 26, 2005, 5:53am
In Spanish there is a saying:
” A caballo regalado, no se le busca lado. “
which is loosely translated: Don’t find fault about things which are given to you free of charge…
The princess here has an ungrateful streak and if the guy doesn’t ditch her he will pay in marriage, when she remembers nothing good but remembers all the bad… and is ungrateful of the sacrifices and things her husband does for her.
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by The Rules on Dec 26, 2005, 7:15am
Don’t buy a woman any gifts, flowers, jewelry, etc. EVER. Perhaps you can buy her flowers on your first wedding anniversary. Whatever you buy sets the bar for all future expectations she’ll have. It’s better to have her whine about you never having bought her flowers, than having her whine about how you don’t buy her as much crap as you used to. That way, when you do it, it’s more appreciated. American women somehow feel entitled to something for nothing. Take the attitude that they should have to deserve what they get, and if they don’t, kick ‘em to the curb. They’ll take, take, take as much as they can if you allow it. Is it any wonder why God shaped the vagina like a purse?
American women just don’t really respect men. They think men are idiots and should be manipulated and they feel justified in manipulating men because they rationalize it through a false sense of superiority.
American women are so often so self-obsessed and self-centered that they will only give you dating advice that benefits THEM and, in turn, other women. They have no clue how to actually speak from a man’s point of view or understand, and really, they don’t even care what we men really want. They only know their point of view because Oprah and every other daytime show tells them that their feelings are of paramount importance and the man is just an insensitive, uncaring jerk for not pandering to them. They don’t care if you get what you want. They’re conditioned to give you the “jump through hoops” approach to validate their self-worth. Why do they care if you get what you want in the shortest amount of time at the lowest cost? This sense of superiority is the basis of the mindset that they use to degrade, dehumanize, chastise, criticize, mistreat, abuse and change men. It is the height of arrogance and condescension for a person to feel that you need changing and that they’re the ones who need to change you.
Women define a man’s value in terms of how well he serves her needs and not often by any other measure.
To the male brain, kindness is respect and should be encouraged… to the female brain, kindness is weakness and should be exploited.
The less that the parties have invested in each other (financially), the less problems there will be.
-The Rules
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by daniel on Dec 26, 2005, 9:13am
Dec 26, 2005, 7:15am, The Rules wrote:
American women just don’t really respect men. They think men are idiots and should be manipulated and they feel justified in manipulating men because they rationalize it through a false sense of superiority.Women define a man’s value in terms of how well he serves her needs and not often by any other measure.
To the male brain, kindness is respect and should be encouraged… to the female brain, kindness is weakness and should be exploited.
A woman cannot think as well as a man – her brain structure is different, and doesn’t allow for it. She was not made to be a man. Consequently, they cannot have rights and liberties as men do – but that’s another story.
Suffice it to say that their thought processes are very erratic and span only short time periods. They live in their own cloud which extends fleetingly in each direction, thinking mostly from minute to minute.
Women are also passive creatures, looking up to particularly those men who can dominate her. Her passivity is also how she becomes corrupted. You may find a girl that you think thinks as you do, but if you look closer you will see that her opinions change frequently. They change as the input she gets from the world changes. Women were made to follow and to obey. Men have to teach her to obey, otherwise she becomes corrupted and disrespectful.
A man must guide a woman as a father guides. He is responsible for her – because an inferior, child-like creature naturally lacks perspective. Her brain structure is such that she cannot be expected to fully understand on her own the repercussions of her self-centered, emotionally-driven actions and behavior.
And most important, she cannot be expected to be responsible on her own – because if she were, we men ourselves would be derelict in assigning her levels of responsibility beyond what she is truly capable of. It would be like, say, granting her the right to vote.
She will think what she’s told to think. It’s men’s job to think. Men must restrain and control women’s behavior.
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by Niall NLIT on Dec 26, 2005, 9:48am
Easy one for the day after Christmas and I am hungover.
GET THE EARRINGS BACK, NEXT THIS BITCH IMMEDIATELY, SPEND THE REFUND ON A BLOWJOB FROM A PRO, IF ANY LEFT GET DRUNK. CALL BITCH UP AND TELL HER WHAT YOU SPENT THE MONEY ON!
Happy holidays!
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by GuestWill on Dec 26, 2005, 1:05pm
Get the earrings back, act like you are gonna buy her something else, and then tell her to take a hike.
Seriously, when you get burned a year from now by staying with her, you will remember the advice guys on this board are giving you right now.
BOOT HER! NOW!
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by Drifter on Dec 26, 2005, 1:49pm
Dec 25, 2005, 10:01pm, MercilessMing wrote:What a shame, that you all decided the GF is a “piece of shit” based on that… My FB has given me gifts that I don’t particularly care for, but I care about HIM more than the gift and that doesn’t make me a piece of shit. What’s sad is he believes the crap that’s posted on these women-hater sites.
There’s nothing particularly wrong with not liking a gift, or even telling the giver (although it’s not very diplomatic). The red flag is that she is “upset with him” over the gift.
Would you stay with someone who was upset with you if you gave them a gift they didn’t like…
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by khankrumthebulgar on Dec 26, 2005, 1:51pm
If you don’t tell her forcibly that this is unacceptable behavior she will see it as a green light to treat you anyway she wants. Women constantly test boundaries to see what they can get away with. You will be her cuckold. Standing by while she bangs some Male more aggressive and unwilling to put up with her BS. The demands will never stop. She will lose respect for you if she has not lost it already. The idea that being “nice” to a Woman will get you laid is nuts.
Men crave power, Women crave love. If you do not get on top of the situation she will next your ass Bud. She wants a Man not a spineless Male. This is why the hyper masculine Thugs and Bad Boys appeals to Women’s hard wiring. They get their panties all wet with Bad Boys, Players, Thugs, PUAs. Despite what they say.
It is not what they say it is what they do that matters. You cannot imagine the grief you are setting yourself up for. If she will not respect you, NEXT HER.
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by antiriad on Dec 26, 2005, 2:07pm
Dec 26, 2005, 9:13am, daniel wrote:
Dec 26, 2005, 7:15am, The Rules wrote:
American women just don’t really respect men. They think men are idiots and should be manipulated and they feel justified in manipulating men because they rationalize it through a false sense of superiority.Women define a man’s value in terms of how well he serves her needs and not often by any other measure.
To the male brain, kindness is respect and should be encouraged… to the female brain, kindness is weakness and should be exploited.
A woman cannot think as well as a man – her brain structure is different, and doesn’t allow for it. She was not made to be a man. Consequently, they cannot have rights and liberties as men do – but that’s another story.
Suffice it to say that their thought processes are very erratic and span only short time periods. They live in their own cloud which extends fleetingly in each direction, thinking mostly from minute to minute.
Women are also passive creatures, looking up to particularly those men who can dominate her. Her passivity is also how she becomes corrupted. You may find a girl that you think thinks as you do, but if you look closer you will see that her opinions change frequently. They change as the input she gets from the world changes. Women were made to follow and to obey. Men have to teach her to obey, otherwise she becomes corrupted and disrespectful.
A man must guide a woman as a father guides. He is responsible for her – because an inferior, child-like creature naturally lacks perspective. Her brain structure is such that she cannot be expected to fully understand on her own the repercussions of her self-centered, emotionally-driven actions and behavior.
And most important, she cannot be expected to be responsible on her own – because if she were, we men ourselves would be derelict in assigning her levels of responsibility beyond what she is truly capable of. It would be like, say, granting her the right to vote.
She will think what she’s told to think. It’s men’s job to think. Men must restrain and control women’s behavior.
Great minds think alike. Have you read “Sex and Character” by Otto Weininger? If not, you should: http://www.theabsolute.net/ottow/sexcharh.html
IIRC he was 22 years old when he wrote this book.
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by XXX on Dec 26, 2005, 2:50pm
Is this a book? Who wrote it?
Where can I buy it?
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by XXX on Dec 26, 2005, 2:57pm
If I have to ‘be a man’ to get types of women like these ones… I prefer to be alone.
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by antiriad on Dec 26, 2005, 3:08pm
Dec 26, 2005, 2:50pm, XXX wrote:Is this a book? Who wrote it?
Where can I buy it?
I highly doubt that feminists would permit this book to remain in print. However, you can download/read it online at the link, or search for it on google.
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by chrisw79 on Dec 26, 2005, 4:00pm
This is why I try to get gifts that are useful to people, or make for a good joke. Trying to appease a woman’s fickle sense of appreciation is pointless. I got my first girlfriend a necklace for Xmas one year whose chain turned out to be one inch too short for her neck. Oohh, did I have withering looks all THAT day. How was I supposed to know that – not like I could test out the length! But no, I should already have known her neck diameter if I wanted to get that gift.
So I gave up trying to read the female mind. This year I got my sisters gift cards, and sent a female friend an alarm clock as a joke (trouble going to bed at reasonable times).
On the whole, I find my family (especially the women and manginas) is very unappreciative of my gifts, and tend to give me things that encourage a mangina role. This year, I received a grooming set (the same type of which I received last year) and a dull white button-up shirt (I’ve asked repeatedly not to be given shirts, and especially not white ones, as they’re way too easy to stain). The more interesting, thoughtful (and probably cheaper) gifts came from friends, some as far away as Canada.
Anyway, back to the point. Getting a gift to appeal to a woman’s sentiment is like closing your eyes at the shooting range and expecting to hit the chart between the eyes. The odds are slim, to say the least. Get gifts that someone can use, or find amusing, and your odds go way up. But in any event, a girlfriend gets visibly pissed at you for trying to get her something beautiful? If she’s that irritable, I wouldn’t want to be around her during PMS at all. Get her out of your life, fast. Or she’ll build on this to nag and belittle you into a shell of your former self, wandering through malls with vacant eyes, pontificating about how women are wonderful, women are perfect…
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by XXX on Dec 27, 2005, 6:35am
Anyway, back to the point. Getting a gift to appeal to a woman’s sentiment is like closing your eyes at the shooting range and expecting to hit the chart between the eyes. The odds are slim, to say the least. Get gifts that someone can use, or find amusing, and your odds go way up. But in any event, a girlfriend gets visibly pissed at you for trying to get her something beautiful? If she’s that irritable, I wouldn’t want to be around her during PMS at all. Get her out of your life, fast. Or she’ll build on this to nag and belittle you into a shell of your former self, wandering through malls with vacant eyes, pontificating about how women are wonderful, women are perfect…
I met a woman like this once, thank God I thought about my possible future with her and didn’t like what came up, I let her go… and she didn’t like that and got her revenge on me later on, I chose to forgive her and get on with my life, if I got angry and strike back, she’s won whatever ‘game’ she has in her little mind.
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by The Author on Dec 27, 2005, 10:12am
All the OP said was, “He saw disappointment” in her face. This doesn’t make her some monster. Maybe the earrings were ugly, etc. She’s entitled to that. Imagine someone gave you a neon green tie. You’d have the same look too. OP wasn’t 100% clear on whether she said thanks or not.
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Re: “That’s not what I wanted for Christmas”
Post by travis on Dec 28, 2005, 4:03pm
“He’s upset because he could see the disappointment on her face when she opened the box.”~Guest
He shouldn’t have been so hard on himself.
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