American Womans, suck it up, Biznatches!
American Womans, suck it up, Biznatches!
Post by TyGerHigs on Nov 17, 2005, 11:03pm
American women, I do enjoy reading your posts. But let’s make some things clear.
1. We don’t want to marry you.
2. We are not going to have children with you.
3. We don’t want to have relationships with you.
4. We do not derive our happiness from dating/getting/interacting with you.
In short, you have made yourselves unbearable, unlovable, intolerable, bitchy, “unfeminine”, and obnoxious. (This is my own list of adjectives, not CK’s).
You said that men seek to oppress, rape, and make you into slaves. That’s fine. So let us be. We dont want to oppress you by being in a relationship with you. We want to give you what you want – our non-presence. Unless that’s not what you really wanted? But we cant read minds.
You’ve made it so dangerous to live with you through domestic violence laws; so dangerous to have children with you due to child custody and child abuse laws finding men guilty until proven innocent and the risk of going to prison for missing a few months’ payments. You’ve made it dangerous to have sex with you, cause you could simply say that you told the man to stop, but he didnt. And since it is impossible to prove whether or not he stopped, the man is ruined.
We know you are emotionally abusive. That you use shaming tactics, nagging, bitching, complaining to get your way. We know you see us as emotional tampons. We know that at most you want us for sperm and money, not love and companionship (cause men are evil, rapists, and you hate us). We know that you are incapable of empathizing with us (for whatever reason). We know that you are bigger sexists than the biggest misogynist could ever be because you think you personally were enslaved for one thousand gazillion years during the evolution of man from ape.
we can not repay this enormous debt we owe to you American women. So we are going to do our best to stay away from you so that we do not hinder your progress.
Maybe you can import husbands from Saudi Arabia.
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Re: American Womans, suck it up, Biznatches!
Post by antiriad on Nov 17, 2005, 11:07pm
Well said.
*snicker*
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Post by chrisvet on Nov 17, 2005, 11:10pm
smithers, who was that slick talking tonic salesman?
I like the cut of his jib
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Post by Chris S on Nov 18, 2005, 12:12am
Kick Ass. Pretty much sums it up.
Chris
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Post by niordsixfour on Nov 18, 2005, 1:30am
Actually that only sums up what the FEMINISTS and the brainwashed women say.
Some American women actually do let the man take the lead and stfu and don’t whine all the time… and give good head to boot.
So hold out till ya find one, two or three of em.
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Re: American Womans, suck it up, Biznatches!
Post by antiriad on Nov 18, 2005, 1:35am
Nov 18, 2005, 1:30am, niordsixfour wrote:Actually that only sums up what the FEMINISTS and the brainwashed women say.
Some American women actually do let the man take the lead and stfu and don’t whine all the time… and give good head to boot.
So hold out till ya find one, two or three of em.
To quote Wayne -
“Monkeys might fly out of my butt!”
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Re: American Womans, suck it up, Biznatches!
Post by TyGerHigs on Nov 18, 2005, 1:50am
Nov 18, 2005, 1:30am, niordsixfour wrote:Actually that only sums up what the FEMINISTS and the brainwashed women say.
Some American women actually do let the man take the lead and stfu and don’t whine all the time… and give good head to boot.
So hold out till ya find one, two or three of em.
Ask your non-feminized women the following questions:
1. If she allows a man to penetrate her without a condom, whose responsibility is birth control at that point?
2. Is it true that one in four women are raped?
3. Since the congress is 95% male, is this proof that men conspire to hold women down?
4. Should women be allowed access to men’s only clubs?
5. Should men be allowed access to women’s only clubs?
6. Is it rape if she decides later on she was taken advantage of?
7. Is the man the head of the family?
8. Is it slavery to cook for a man?
9. If the woman works, should the man still pay her way?
10. Is family law fair? (child custody, alimony, property distribution)
11. If women do really make 76cents on the dollar, is that because of women’s career choices, or is it cause of men?
12. If affirmative action for women just?
13. If women actually were held down since the advent of civilization, is that justification for women screwing men over today?
14. If a man doesn’t want to date a single, overweight mother, is he a loser?
let me know how it goes.
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Re: American Womans, suck it up, Biznatches!
Post by antiriad on Nov 18, 2005, 2:12am
Looks to me like Mr. Higs is rinsing it.
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Re: American Womans, suck it up, Biznatches!
Post by niordsixfour on Nov 18, 2005, 2:25am
Anti… I have one girlfriend and another one on the side that are the type of women that give up their power for a man’s love. Will I marry either? dunno, I’m having too much fun holding out for now. At some point I do want kids though and I sure as hell am not moving to the Turd World.
But then I’m not a 20 yr old either… I’m 36 and once ya hit your mid-30’s, like a lot of men my age or older have said here, women really start giving you respect (and not just the ones that want babies either).
You will also notice, in the Business World, that you get far more respect once you hit your 30’s (male OR female).
A lot of younger women actually know better than to try any BS also; at least with men our age ~ but I do know what a pain it is for very young men, I used to be one. And it is worse now for young guys than it was in the 80’s and 90’s probably.
Some females are learning from the marriage strike and some aren’t, and some were actually ok to begin with. You might as well enjoy the smart ones instead of just hanging with the fellas or alone.
If you don’t know how to find em, or what to look for, then that’s advice that can be found on another thread. Two key tips though are to look for women that had a mentally strong father and are NOT Politically Liberal. My gf had a Marine for a daddy lol.
A non-fat, Rrrright-wing girl with a manly dad is best basically. It only takes a few mins to figure out whether a chick is a Leftist with an entitlement mentality or not if you ask the right questions.
The marriage strike is working… so enjoy the women that know better than to be a bitch. There is a certain percentage that were actually raised right or picked it up along the way. And it is >1% lol.
Trust me.
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Re: American Womans, suck it up, Biznatches!
Post by TyHigs on Nov 18, 2005, 2:36am
And she has to have been raised on a farm, too, right? Heh.
That’s something you and Chrisvet have in common.
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Re: American Womans, suck it up, Biznatches!
Post by antiriad on Nov 18, 2005, 2:52am
Niordsixftfour – will keep your advice in mind, brother.
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Re: American Womans, suck it up, Biznatches!
Post by Riskbreaker on Nov 18, 2005, 3:41am
Time for some Eli Johnson:
I don’t want to just get along…I want to win.
Men have compromised and made excuses for womens bad behavior for generations. Has is helped us any? Are families better off?
No.
Read some of the articles on the marriage strike and take a good look at the single women you see around you.
The kiss my ass, no compromise strategy is hurting these chicks. They need to be denied the resources that ONLY a decent man can provide them. Uncle Sam can only do so much for these chicks and they are starting to realize that they need us but we only want them.
Women are not going to change because we act nicer to them. They will have to be pushed to the breaking point and beyond to get things back in line.
The denial of our resources is what will end this thing. We deny them the things they get from us but take for granted. We must force them to go to the thug/OB/Big Goverment for love, kindness and yes even chivalry. They must be forced to examine their own lives and accept responsibility for their own actions.
This will not start looking inward until things get worse for them. They are not going to change due to their sense of fairness or a love of humanity. Dignity, respect, and fairness are just words to most women.
They have to be shown that if they do not get their acts together that they can expect nothing from a decent man. Nothing.
No free rides to work if the bad boys too high to take them. Make them give you gas money.
No free car care if the bad boy is too high/lazy to change the oil. Make them pay you.
No free food when you go out as just friends. Make them buy their own food.
No free therapy. Thats the thug/OB/Big Governments job. They fucked her up let them fix her.
For the first time in my short life I am seeing women being forced to SUCK IT UP by the average joe.
And I like it. I like it.
We are starting to win. Things are changing. Slowly but it is gaining momentum and it is a beautiful thing.
Not because of the harm it does to skanky hos but for the energy and self determination I see in the eyes of young men I meet and the words of the men on this site.
After all that been done men shouldn’t want to kiss and make up. We shouldn’t want to back to the not so old days where any casual whore was seen to be worth more then 10 hard working, decent men.
We should keep the pressure on until we win.
No compromise.
Either women start giving decent men what WE want in return for all we give them or they SUCK IT UP and try to survive this hard world alone.
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Re: American Womans, suck it up, Biznatches!
Post by PG on Nov 18, 2005, 4:27am
I’m an American Male and I’m laughing my ass off at how pathetic you guys are.
I’ve been with a bunch of American women (and some foreign ones) and haven’t had any of the problems you muggs are whining about. With one or two exceptions I’ve been with smart and independent women, and that’s the way I want it. And I’ve had none of the crap that you guys are crying about.
But then, I’m not threatened by women as you obviously are.
And BTW, the women with me have to be politically Liberal, like I am. I can’t fathom being with a Faux News-brainwashed wingnut. And strangely enough, I have no real problem with American women too. Hmmm…..
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Post by TyHigs on Nov 18, 2005, 4:35am
I suspect PG is a woman. “Threatened by women”? Those STRONG women? hahaha Oh obviously. Pfft.
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Post by VickDeem on Nov 18, 2005, 5:11am
PG,
threats will get ya nowhere.
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Re: American Womans, suck it up, Biznatches!
Post by Guest Will on Nov 18, 2005, 5:33am
Nov 18, 2005, 4:27am, PG wrote:
And BTW, the women with me have to be politically Liberal, like I am. I can’t fathom being with a Faux News-brainwashed wingnut. And strangely enough, I have no real problem with American women too. Hmmm…..
A lot of the guys on this board are libertarians too. You know, we believe in freedom and lower taxes.
By the way, politically liberal women are the worst to date. They scream about women’s CHOICE, but then argue that women should not be able to have sex in a pornographic movie?. Isn’t it a woman’s body? Can’t she do whatever she wants with her body? Oh wait….she can do anything she wants with her body, as long as it in line with what liberals believe in. That is logical thinking at its finest.
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Post by sirlancelot on Nov 18, 2005, 5:35am
All these claims of us being “threatened” by emotionally unstable, useless, dependent – sorry, independent – women are making my patented Shaming Language Detector go into overdrive.
PG, go and feed your cats you sad spinster.
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Re: American Womans, suck it up, Biznatches!
Post by Niall IT on Nov 18, 2005, 5:56am
Re PG,
SHAMING LANGUAGE.
Too easy. Tibby needs feeding bitch.
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Re: American Womans, suck it up, Biznatches!
Post by niordsixfour on Nov 18, 2005, 6:01am
Riskbreaker is absolutely correct… we ARE winning. I see it all the time in women that are so happy to finally talk with a man that is both very masculine and very nice (when they deserve it) and just plain awesome (ME).
Remember without ME it’s only AWESO
Attitude can be fun so keep a positive attitude… the World has always sucked in one way or another. And it has always rocked in one way or another. The good women hate the thug type but all women (except the feminists) like masculine, confident men.
Say it with me guys…
Remember without ME it’s only AWESO
A lot of these younger women are actually a lot better than some of the 1980’s Gen X women that I grew up with; they’re finally ready to be submissive again… when you leave the modern super skanks out of the picture of course. These young women know that things have flipped around, and it isn’t like the ’80s and early ’90s anymore, and that there IS more competition for women finding a good man than vice versa. These girls have been dumped so many times that the nice ones cry themselves to bed every night wishing that they had a non-ahole boyfriend.
The courts are lagging behind but there are some good changes there too for men and fairness.
As far as PG I see a few key words… liberal and INDEPENDENT. No masculine man wants an independent woman unless it’s for quickie and even then they are a turn-off. PG is either a female or a hippie submissive type “male”. I’ll take Fox News over the feminist Clinton News Network anyday. Fox News has some hot Rrright wing chicks too (Grrr baby!) that give the Libs total hell in interviews.
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Re: American Womans, suck it up, Biznatches!
Post by niordsixfour on Nov 18, 2005, 6:29am
Tyger we are on the same page… some of those questions I have brought up or the women have brought up first. I had had enough of girl’s bullshit by age 14 to learn to be verrry selective with females and scope them out as fully possible.
I’ll primarily answer those questions based on the girl that I spend most of my time with right now, a country girl that grew up in Western MD (Appalachia) but lives near Nashville, TN now…. I’ve asked her a good number of those things already. Some of the rest I won’t be asking her just for homework on dontmarry.com lol… we get along real well and she isn’t at all the Feminist type, never has been. If I had met her 10-11 years ago when I was 25 and she was 21 i might have married her. Now I’m in no rush. I like having options.
1. If she allows a man to penetrate her without a condom, whose responsibility is birth control at that point? We’ve discussed this… birth control methods without a condom are pretty limited and only somewhat effective… better with practice though. I prefer sex without a condom myself so I consider it both partners responsibility and so does she; she knows it takes two to tango…. I’d never have sex without a condom with a girl that didn’t worship my ass like I was Jesus Christ (and she does). I’m very good and careful with withdrawal method (used it for multiple serious girlfriends and none got prego) and sometimes I combine it with the rhythm method… and no I’m not a Catholic.
2. Is it true that one in four women are raped? The only place that I’ve run into a lot of women that really believed that Feminist bullshit line was back in my Univ. of Michigan days. But Ann Arbor is the most Socially Liberal non-black city in Michigan~by far. I’ve never asked her that rape stat thing but she hates Communism/Liberalism with a passion and she knows how Feminists lie with statistics all the time. She hates Feminists; they have made it harder on her type of woman… she is a combination of two of the things that Feminists really hate ~ she is the submissive type and she is a country girl.
I have told her that she is the submissive type and she was a little confused when I came out and just said it but she agreed. I probably shouldn’t have come out and said it but she wasn’t offended at all. She doesn’t want to be on top in the relationship. I’m four years older than her and a little age difference helps keep that in check with any woman.
3. Since the congress is 95% male, is this proof that men conspire to hold women down? The Congress isn’t 95% male anymore I don’t think. And for sure the Senate isn’t 95% male. She actually trusts men far more than women so I’m sure that that would be fine by her. She considers men generally smarter than women (so did my last girlfriend). That’s one of my first weeding out questions to women actually… I let them know about how IQ studies have shown that women’s IQs average around the middle of the bell curve and men’s IQs tend to be on one of the ends of the bell curve… either very bright or very dull. And that this is why there’s so few female Noble Prize winners in Science and why smart men are better at math than smart women. And this is why dumb men end up spending their Life in and out of Prison. Some women look at me in shock and confusion when I tell them about that IQ study… those women I avoid like the plague.
One interesting question that I’ve asked maybe 30-40 female coworkers and girlfriends over the years is “who would you rather work with a man or a woman?” Every single one said “I’d rather work with a man, women backstab each other”. And it is true, if ya think about it a lot of women are hard on men but they are 10 times as hard on each other lol. Which explains the sky-high domestic violence rate with lesbians.
4. Should women be allowed access to men’s only clubs? Never asked her this but I know that she could care less about that feminist issue. She isn’t politically anti-male at all… she is a proud Rrright-winger White girl. Think a much younger and shorter, Ann Coulter like Politically (the Conservative pundit), with a truly submissive attitude and a softer voice, a Western Maryland Appalachian accent and that is about her. The best women are in the South or the in Hills or in the Inter-Mountain West like Montana. Much prettier women in those regions too often. Though I have known some good anti-feminist women in the suburbs too.
5. Should men be allowed access to women’s only clubs? She isn’t in any women’s clubs and she would wonder why I’d want in one lol. I have no problem with male-only or female-only clubs nor does she I’m sure. Bigger issues interest the both of us much more. She hates the gender war. And the nasty Feminists hate her type… the pretty, meek, best at home breast feeding the babies type rather than the climbing the career ladder type of woman.
6. Is it rape if she decides later on she was taken advantage of? She worships me and she doesn’t have quick same-night casual sex. That is more an issue with very very young women that are confused as shit. She is very Conservative sexually~no skanky tattoos~no weird lip/tongue piercings. I knew her for a month before I sexed her (though I never hide my sexuality with a woman) and never wait that long lol. I took it slower than I could have probably but with her type of girl it is best to go a lil slower.
7. Is the man the head of the family? She wouldn’t have it any other way… she is a country girl with a Marine for a daddy. When I tell her she looks tired and to go to bed she goes to bed. When I tell her to go to the doctor for that cold she goes to the doctor the next day. She is actually submissive (and I don’t mean BDSM).
8. Is it slavery to cook for a man? LOL no. She was baking cookies to take to her Aunt’s bday party tonight when I talked to her. She cooks for me all the time without asking~she likes it and considers it an important skill for a woman. Saves the $$$ over eating out too.
9. If the woman works, should the man still pay her way?
She offers to help in any way she can, $$$, cooking, sewing, cleaning. I make more than she does though. But I prefer it that way. She is cautious with money and not very materialistic. I’m quite sure that she has never even seen a Neiman Marcus store let alone been in one. Because she isn’t materialistic I have no problem dropping a few bucks on her. But I do mean a few… no trips to Venice anytime soon lol. I want to be able to retire someday and I don’t want a relationship based on money. We both agreed not to spend more than $50 on each other for Christmas.
10. Is family law fair? (child custody, alimony, property distribution) I’ve talked to her about this… she knows that it is very anti-male and that bad family law is part of the reason that the two-parent family is dying out. It saddens her greatly. I’m not religious at all – she is moderately religious but I consider that a good thing when it’s the old-fashioned type man on top kind of religion. She hates ALL forms of Liberalism from Adultery-Welfare. She is pro-family and knows that women have to help out however they can. She keeps her home clean and she helps clean my place too.
Also, FYI, Texas and maybe a few other States are no-alimony States. North Texas has some of the nicest prettiest women in the whole USA too. Not a bad place for guys looking to relocate. I have a female friend that married a guy that quit working and smoked pot all day… she divorced him after a few mos and she had to pay HIM alimony for 6 months. It can actually go both ways. Also most States are ending or have ended lifelong alimony… often now alimony is only to allow the less-moneyed person to become self-supporting over a specific period of time.
11. If women do really make 76cents on the dollar, is that because of women’s career choices, or is it cause of men? I’m sure you have gotten the jist of it but men are her friend not her enemy.
12. Is affirmative action for women just? I’ve discussed this with her… she loves her culture (Caucasian/European American) and hates ALL Affirmitive Action.
13. If women actually were held down since the advent of civilization, is that justification for women screwing men over today? I’ve discussed this with her a bit before too in relation to our affirmative action talk… she see’s it as anti-White and anti-male Communist bullshit. Remember she had a career Marine for a daddy. Commies ain’t cool.
I showed her this t-shirt and she loved it http://www.thoseshirts.com/commies.html
As far as that question I’d say that if you yell that at a woman on a first date you will scare off the good ones lol. Be somewhat subtle and nice as you discuss this stuff with a chick… unless ya know she is a bitch then just walk away.
14. If a man doesnt want to date a single, overweight mother, is he a loser? She knows that American women are getting too damn fat and she is very careful to avoid becoming one of them. She is 5′ nothing and petite.
Aside from the Marine daddy, the fact that she is a country girl and moderately religious one thing that didn’t hurt is that she has an associates degree not a 4-yr degree so she was never exposed to Leftist professors. Though I really doubt in her case that it would have had an impact.
She is not the only man-loving, anti-Liberal chick that I have known or dated or that my friends have dated etc. Are they endangered? Yes, for sure in some areas but in other areas feminists are endangered. Feminism became a bad word with most women in the early ’90s. Now we have the slut culture though which isn’t ideal either for long-term lol.
Be nice to girls like this… they deserve it. And keep in mind that Feminists HATE the sweet, somewhat submissive and nurturing type women with a passion. More than they hate us men. I’ve told this chick that I’m in no rush to marry and she is ok with it; like I said she worships me. The nice ones deserve some honesty and the rude ones deserve the cold shoulder. As ya get a lil older it gets easier to sort out which is which before you waste too much time on them.
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Re: American Womans, suck it up, Biznatches!
Post by anonymous on Nov 18, 2005, 7:01am
Nov 18, 2005, 4:35am, TyHigs wrote:I suspect PG is a woman. “Threatened by women”? Those STRONG women? hahaha Oh obviously. Pfft.
Nah the nonstop orgies he had at his liberal arts college are just going to his head (not going to say which one).
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Post by johnyquest on Nov 18, 2005, 7:53am
Nov 18, 2005, 4:27am, PG wrote:And strangely enough, I have no real problem with American women
So marry one then. I dare you.
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Post by scholarlee on Nov 18, 2005, 9:26am
all right – let’s whip out both x chromosomes and hit the essay questions (with short answers for those of y’all who want the executive summary without all the blather):
1. If she allows a man to penetrate her without a condom, whose responsibility is birth control at that point? I would think that this particular question would have been settled prior to the actual moment of penetration. In the throes of passion is not the time to be wondering. I’d have to say that if I let it get to that point without at least talking about it, the onus is on me. short answer: hers.
2. Is it true that one in four women are raped?
I’d think you’d need an extremely broad definition of rape in order for that statistic to be true. if “rape” = sexual penetration with physical coercion, probably not; but if “rape” = being looked at cross-eyed, then sure. I do think one out of four women has been looked at cross-eyed. but as Mark Twain said – there are lies, damn lies and statistics. short answer: No.
3. Since the congress is 95% male, is this proof that men conspire to hold women down? I think 95% of congress are lying sacks of crap, and that is proof enough that lying sacks of crap conspire to hold the truth down. let’s burn the whole thing to the ground and start over. short answer: No.
4. Should women be allowed access to men’s only clubs? what do you mean by “club”? social club? sports club? professional organization? beats me – never really thought about it. I’lll defer to Groucho Marx on this one – I would never join any club that would have me as a member. short answer: I don’t know.
5. Should men be allowed access to women’s only clubs? see (4) above
6. Is it rape if she decides later on she was taken advantage of? oh, buyer’s remorse. I’ve been there. but taking advantage is vastly different than rape. I’ve been sweet talked into bed by nefarious cads, and I’ve been coerced at knifepoint by someone I thought was a family friend. If I had to choose, I’d prefer the former. short answer: no. of course not.
7. Is the man the head of the family? that may depend on the temperament of the man. does every family need a head? It often works best for families if one individual has ultimate veto power with no chance of appeal. Often it works best when that individual is male. short answer: maybe.
8. Is it slavery to cook for a man? only if you’re his slave.
I never realized what a pleasure it was to cook for a man until I met Man, and he really dug my cooking. previous partners were indifferent or outright hostile, no matter what I did. My exhusband threw full plates of food against the wall if something displeased him. (don’t get me wrong; I tried everything – sometimes mistakes happen in the kitchen, sometimes what he loved on monday he hated on friday, sometimes, well, I don’t know what happened. It’s not like I indifferently just threw food together. I really tried.) it’s no fun to cook for someone like that. you start to have serious doubts about your capability and sanity. at our house during the week, the person who gets home first makes dinner. some days it’s him, some days it’s me. on the weekends, the kitchen is MINE ALL MINE! I got mad kitchen gangsta! short answer: no.
9. If the woman works, should the man still pay her way? if it’s her birthday. or a wager is made, the stakes being dinner, and the man loses the bet. in some cases it’s nice to be taken out to dinner by someone with whom you have mutual affection. on the other hand, ain’t nothing free. I should absolutely be prepared to cover the entire check at any given time, or we probably shouldn’t be doing what we’re doing. (unless it’s a birthday or a bet, in which case the host/ess or loser pays regardless of gender.) short answer: no.
10. Is family law fair? (child custody, alimony, property distribution) yes, to the lawyers. not to the families. short answer: goodness no.
11. If women do really make 76cents on the dollar, is that because of women’s career choices, or is it cause of men? wow, someone could write a master’s thesis on this subject. I believe more research is needed. it’s not because of men – it’s because of market demand. some labor needs to be cheap. classify a job as “women’s work” and it becomes cheap. short answer: no.
12. Is affirmative action for women just? it’s not only unjust, it’s illogical. why do women need extra help? we’re not crippled…wasn’t that part of the point of the “feminist” movement? and if we do need extra help/are crippled, then maybe we should consider a line of work for which we don’t need extra help.short answer: nope.
13. If women actually were held down since the advent of civilization, is that justification for women screwing men over today? justice does not equal spiteful meanspirited revenge. even if women were routinely hunted and killed for their tooth ivory and delicious earlobe meat until the late 19th century, I’m not sure it would legitimize the criminal stupidity and bald spite that passes for justice in 2005. short answer: no.
14. If a man doesnt want to date a single, overweight mother, is he a loser? a man is a loser only if he doesn’t want to date me (j/k). seriously – I can’t make judgments like that. I’m not god. If I were single, I wouldn’t want to date married guys with alcohol problems. does that make me a loser? short answer: I don’t know.
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Re: American Womans, suck it up, Biznatches!
Post by morpheus on Nov 18, 2005, 9:51am
Nov 18, 2005, 9:26am, scholarlee wrote:4. Should women be allowed access to men’s only clubs? what do you mean by “club”? social club? sports club? professional organization? beats me – never really thought about it. I’lll defer to Groucho Marx on this one – I would never join any club that would have me as a member. short answer: I don’t know.
I believe this refers to, say, men-only (not anymore) country clubs.
Nov 18, 2005, 9:26am, scholarlee wrote:5. Should men be allowed access to women’s only clubs? see (4) above
I think a good example of this is, say, women-only aerobics classes.
Then there are the tales of “ladies’ nights” at night clubs. Men have actually filed discrimination lawsuits about that– and have won.
Nov 18, 2005, 9:26am, scholarlee wrote:11. If women do really make 76cents on the dollar, is that because of women’s career choices, or is it cause of men? wow, someone could write a master’s thesis on this subject. I believe more research is needed. it’s not because of men – it’s because of market demand. some labor needs to be cheap. classify a job as “women’s work” and it becomes cheap. short answer: no.
Someone has written a book on the matter: “Why Men Earn More: The Startling Truth About The Pay Gap– And What Women Can Do About It” by Warren Farrell, Ph.D. Trust me, there is no shortage of research on the matter. Shorter answer on the pay gap matter: It’s imaginary.
Nov 18, 2005, 9:26am, scholarlee wrote:14. If a man doesnt want to date a single, overweight mother, is he a loser? a man is a loser only if he doesn’t want to date me (j/k). seriously – I can’t make judgments like that. I’m not god. If I were single, I wouldn’t want to date married guys with alcohol problems. does that make me a loser? short answer: I don’t know.
It doesn’t make you a loser because you are female. I think it is called “woman’s prerogative” when you make a choice like that. Men are simply pigs when they think the same way.
Actually, on re-reading your response I realized that your not wishing to date married alcoholics makes you extremely smart. But there is that odd segment of the female population that can’t resist such a challenge.
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Post by A on Nov 18, 2005, 10:00am
” If women do really make 76cents on the dollar, is that because of women’s career choices, or is it cause of men? “
I’d say she’s doing better on her taxes then I am! I take home perhaps 50 cents on the dollar…and I don’t pay child or spousal support. They probably only take home 10 cents on the dollar.
Hell, I want equal rights too! Is there a tax form I should get?
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Post by scholarlee on Nov 18, 2005, 10:25am
Nov 18, 2005, 9:51am, morpheus wrote:
Someone has written a book on the matter: “Why Men Earn More: The Startling Truth About The Pay Gap– And What Women Can Do About It” by Warren Farrell, Ph.D. Trust me, there is no shortage of research on the matter. Shorter answer on the pay gap matter: It’s imaginary.
off I go to the library then. thanks for the recommendation.
A further thought on the “Pay Gap” matter – American businesses built many factories in Puerto Rico in the ’30s-50s, as part of “Operation Bootstrap”. So, plenty of factory work was available in both skilled and unskilled trades. however, to keep the cost of labor down women were encouraged to work in the factories (at both skilled and unskilled jobs). women working = lower labor cost. this left the men out of work, but they were encouraged to emigrate to the mainland.
reasons why this might not matter – 1) that was then, this is now, and 2) that was there, this is here. the situation of a tiny colony in the 30s is vastly different than the situation of a major world power in the 21st century. but I do find it interesting that well before the advent of “women’s lib” feminism in the US, thousands of women were already working full days in the factories and taking care of things at home, as a matter of necessity rather than political posturing.
Nov 18, 2005, 9:51am, morpheus wrote:
It doesn’t make you a loser because you are female. I think it is called “woman’s prerogative” when you make a choice like that. Men are simply pigs when they think the same way.
goose/gander, in my opinion. trying to judge people’s personal preferences is pointless and rude.
Nov 18, 2005, 9:51am, morpheus wrote:Actually, on re-reading your response I realized that your not wishing to date married alcoholics makes you extremely smart. But there is that odd segment of the female population that can’t resist such a challenge.
well, you live and you learn…
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Post by thechief on Nov 18, 2005, 10:34am
I can’t quote chapter and verse, but Thomas Sowell has a good refutation to this business of the pay gap–if Big Business were in some sort of deep, evil conspiracy to only pay women 76 cents on the dollar, why would they hire anybody other than a woman for most jobs? Saving 24% on labor costs would be a HUGE advantage for any business. Most businesses would put aside their evil, nasty, patriarchal chauvinism just long enough to hire all women for their factory jobs and reap a huge windfall on their lower labor costs.
The truth? Having children is often the reason women make less. They drop out of the labor force for anywhere from nine months to five years or even longer to raise the little tykes. God bless ‘em for doing so, but this does mean they lose seniority, acquired skills, etcetera, etcetera. In fact, women often purposefully choose a career field that will allow for these sorts of extended absences. A high school teacher, for example, can quit working for five years and then go back to work having lost little in the way of skills and development in her field. A computer technician, on the other hand, will find herself with a very steep learning curve if she tries to go back to work after a five year absence. And I’m sorry, but most computer technicians get paid more than most teachers–in part because they are required to continually renew their knowledge and skills.
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Post by scholarlee on Nov 18, 2005, 10:46am
Nov 18, 2005, 10:34am, thechief wrote:I can’t quote chapter and verse, but Thomas Sowell has a good refutation to this business of the pay gap–if Big Business were in some sort of deep, evil conspiracy to only pay women 76 cents on the dollar, why would they hire anybody other than a woman for most jobs? Saving 24% on labor costs would be a HUGE advantage for any business. Most businesses would put aside their evil, nasty, patriarchal chauvinism just long enough to hire all women for their factory jobs and reap a huge windfall on their lower labor costs.
well, I have just one thing to say about that, Mr. Thinks-he’s-so-smart:
D’oh!
I don’t know why I was unable to think of that for my own self. I feel super dumb. I know – I’ll blame the matriarchy!(j/k)
seriously – thanks for pointing out this particular flaw in my logic, and for the author recommendation.
Nov 18, 2005, 10:34am, thechief wrote:A high school teacher, for example, can quit working for five years and then go back to work having lost little in the way of skills and development in her field. A computer technician, on the other hand, will find herself with a very steep learning curve if she tries to go back to work after a five year absence. And I’m sorry, but most computer technicians get paid more than most teachers–in part because they are required to continually renew their knowledge and skills.
(/threadhop)
maybe that’s part of the reason why the education system sucks donkey balls. if teachers were required to constantly renew their knowledge and skills, maybe the caliber of teaching would rise.
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Post by John Ross on Nov 18, 2005, 11:04am
Nov 18, 2005, 10:46am, scholarlee wrote:maybe that’s part of the reason why the education system sucks donkey balls. if teachers were required to constantly renew their knowledge and skills, maybe the caliber of teaching would rise.
The PUBLIC education system sucks donkey balls because it is unionized, a system which seeks to get the greatest amount of pay for the least amount of lowest-quality work. Private school teachers get paid LESS for being BETTER because they want to effectively teach, not be stuck in an environment with less-competent colleagues and kids that don’t want to learn.
As the author might say, “Are all public schools like that? Of course not. Does that describe the public school in your neighborhood? Possibly.”
JR
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Post by TyHigs on Nov 18, 2005, 1:24pm
15. If a woman hits a man, should she then be surprised if that man hits her back? Should a woman ever hit a man? Should a man ever hit a woman, even in self-defense?
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Post by thechief on Nov 18, 2005, 1:34pm
Nov 18, 2005, 1:24pm, TyHigs wrote:15. If a woman hits a man, should she then be surprised if that man hits her back? Should a woman ever hit a man? Should a man ever hit a woman, even in self-defense?
No, only in self defense, and only in self defense, respectively.
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Post by CuriePoint on Nov 18, 2005, 2:22pm
Nov 18, 2005, 4:27am, PG wrote:I’m an American Male and I’m laughing my ass off at how pathetic you guys are.
I’ve been with a bunch of American women (and some foreign ones) and haven’t had any of the problems you muggs are whining about. With one or two exceptions I’ve been with smart and indpendent women, and that’s the way I want it. And I’ve had none of the crap that you guys are crying about.
But then, I’m not threatened by women as you obviously are.
And BTW, the women with me have to be politically Liberal, like I am. I can’t fathom being with a Faux News-brainwashed wingnut. And strangely enough, I have no real problem with American women too. Hmmm…..
Well, good for you!
What do you want, a medal?
If your life is going so great with women, then you obviously don’t need to hang with us poor pathetic losers who can’t get laid. One man’s experiences does not a statistic make, and you won’t garner any points nor influence here.
You are, of course, welcome back when you get burned to the ground and have something more in common with the rest of us who have seen the truth up close and personal.
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Post by antiriad on Nov 18, 2005, 3:36pm
Nov 18, 2005, 4:27am, PG wrote:I’m an American Male
No you’re not and here’s why:
Quote:But then, I’m not threatened by women as you obviously are.
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Post by Lee on Nov 18, 2005, 3:45pm
Nov 18, 2005, 4:27am, PG wrote:I’m an American Male and I’m laughing my ass off at how pathetic you guys are.
I’ve been with a bunch of American women (and some foreign ones) and haven’t had any of the problems you muggs are whining about. With one or two exceptions I’ve been with smart and independent women, and that’s the way I want it. And I’ve had none of the crap that you guys are crying about.
But then, I’m not threatened by women as you obviously are.
This is something that usually only women say, write or post. Manipulative shaming language is the purvey of women or bottom-feeding salesmen.
I will assume you are lucid and intelligent and male.
We aren’t threatened by women, we don’t like some women, the one’s who ball-bust, shame, have feminist attitudes and the like.
I used to be a card-carrying liberal and dated only liberal women. Then I grew up and got tired of hearing the women I dated bust on men all.the.fucking.time.
I am a man, I deserve respect, and if she doesn’t like what men do, in the end she won’t like me.
Now why would I want to be with a woman who doesn’t like me? Liking a person is a prerequisite for a relationship.
Maybe you like being with women who complain about men. I didn’t and I got out.
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Post by antiriad on Nov 18, 2005, 3:54pm
Women like PG are very useful when they post to this board -
a) they demonstrate the level of misandry present in our culture today
b) they make it clear how simplistic and predictable the mentality of the average ameriskank really is
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Post by chrisvet on Nov 18, 2005, 3:57pm
Nov 18, 2005, 6:01am, niordsixfour wrote:Riskbreaker is absolutely correct… we ARE winning. I see it all the time in women that are so happy to finally talk with a man that is both very masculine and very nice (when they deserve it) and just plain awesome (ME).
Remember without ME it’s only AWESO
“Me” is vain.
Now, confidence – real confidence always commands respect.
Quote:The good women hate the thug type but all women (except the feminists) like masculine, confident men.
Correct
Quote:Say it with me guys…
Remember without ME it’s only AWESO
Repeat this 3 times: my biggest fear is being “gay and black” – and we’ll get to the root of the problem.
Quote:A lot of these younger women are actually a lot better than some of the 1980’s Gen X women that I grew up with; they’re finally ready to be submissive again…
Wrong. Annoying female “girl power” is at an all time high. The men’s movement has grown exponentially in the past 2 years for good reason – the internet, nastier women, and more fucked up laws.
Quote:The courts are lagging behind but there are some good changes there too for men and fairness.
Bullshit. Give us some examples, and I’ll throw 352 new things the courts did in the last 2 years to further enslave our rights as men. The courts are getting worse, as crime definitions are expanded.
The special interest organism both depends and lobbies for tougher laws each year to maintain a WEDGE and conflict between people. I suggest you focus on less blabber, and more study. Rape no longer means Rape. DV no longer means assault or bodily contact. SH is watered down to shit.
Quote:No masculine man wants an independent woman unless it’s for quickie and even then they are a turn-off.
In the vast majority of the cases – precisely, and reasons CEO’s marry their secretaries, and 9/10 guys Marry “down.”
Quote:
I’ll take Fox News over the feminist Clinton News Network anyday.
Fox, ABC, NBC, and all the networks are censored garbage. The real stuff is kept away from us and everything else is PC govt indoctrinated / regulated bullshit.
Please get your facts straight, its just not good having a guy around who hates blacks, asians, jews, gays, and thinks the US courts are becoming more FAIR towards men.
Put your thinking cap on.
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Post by chrisvet on Nov 18, 2005, 4:02pm
Nov 18, 2005, 2:22pm, CuriePoint wrote:
Nov 18, 2005, 4:27am, PG wrote:I’m an American Male and I’m laughing my ass off at how pathetic you guys are.I’ve been with a bunch of American women (and some foreign ones) and haven’t had any of the problems you muggs are whining about. With one or two exceptions I’ve been with smart and indpendent women, and that’s the way I want it. And I’ve had none of the crap that you guys are crying about.
But then, I’m not threatened by women as you obviously are.
And BTW, the women with me have to be politically Liberal, like I am. I can’t fathom being with a Faux News-brainwashed wingnut. And strangely enough, I have no real problem with American women too. Hmmm…..
Well, good for you!
What do you want, a medal?
If your life is going so great with women, then you obviously don’t need to hang with us poor pathetic losers who can’t get laid. One man’s experiences does not a statistic make, and you won’t garner any points nor influence here.
You are, of course, welcome back when you get burned to the ground and have something more in common with the rest of us who have seen the truth up close and personal.
Precisely. If the subject is female, its understandable.
If male, he will be back – there’s no doubt about it.
The only difference between him / us is reality.
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Post by Gallowglass on Nov 18, 2005, 4:45pm
Nov 18, 2005, 3:57pm, chrisvet wrote:Repeat this 3 times: my biggest fear is being “gay and black” – and we’ll get to the root of the problem.
No Chris, the root of the problem is your inability to accept non PC opinions, and I don’t mean to be rude here, but your above response does come across as emotional guilt projection.
Quote:Please get your facts straight, its just not good having a guy around who hates blacks, asians, jews, gays, and thinks the US courts are becoming more FAIR towards men.
There’s no hatred in not wanting to politically correct.
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Post by niordsixfour on Nov 18, 2005, 8:39pm
try again gallows
I guess I like confusing people so let’s confuse chrisvet yet again. I’ve had friends of all races (other than black) at one point or another.
Although I do put a real preference on friends of my own tribe… Anglo/Celtic or some sort of Caucasian. And I mostly just hang with them now.
Another thing that has impacted me (in resisting Political Correctness) is that I grew up watching Westerns (Gary Cooper rocks in High Noon) with my dad, watching Super Friends (Thor with his big hammer), and watching Woody Woodpecker…. none of them were PC. Woody was as heterosexual as they come.
And yes Chis the courts are actually becoming more fair in America (I don’t known about your little Socialist country of Canada though). Is the Congress still crappy? Sure, often, but local courts have at least as much power in the American system.
I know one thing about homos… a lot of them HATE women with an unnatural passion; even the ones that keep faghag friends around. They hate people that have kids too; male or female. Real men have more of a love/hate relationship with women. With a lot of the queers they just see women as bugs to be squished. Fortunately most women are tougher than gays.
Chris seems to hate women (and masculine men) with a passion. Too much mommy too little daddy. Go watch the Good, the Bad and the Ugly Chris. A good non PC man’s movie can do wonders for your soul. Men on top (which is the only workable society) doesn’t mean burning ALL women at the stake like witches Chris.
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Post by Gallowglass on Nov 18, 2005, 9:11pm
Nov 18, 2005, 8:39pm, niordsixfour wrote:Hi again gallows
Yep, hi.
Quote:Although I do put a real preference on friends of my own tribe… Anglo/Celtic or some sort of Caucasian. And I mostly just hang with them now.
Yeah, that’s quite natural. What gets me is, how often Chris uses ad hominems against you, it’s quite something.
Quote:I know one thing about homos… a lot of them HATE women with an unnatural passion; even the ones that keep faghag friends around. They hate people that have kids too; male or female. Real men have more of a love/hate relationship with women. With a lot of the queers they just see women as bugs to be squished. Fortunately most women are tougher than gays.
They do? damn, I hadn’t known of that, any idea why the gays hate women so much? do they see the women as competition taking away the men?
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Post by niordsixfour on Nov 18, 2005, 9:48pm
Nov 18, 2005, 9:11pm, Gallowglass wrote:
Yeah, that’s quite natural. What gets me is, how often Chris uses ad hominems against you, it’s quite something.
Yup when someone is just plain right they can’t attack your idea so they attack you on the basis of some irrelevant fact. All Leftists do this. It’s why I now treat ALL Liberals as children… I don’t even try to bother with having an adult debate with them. Waste of time.
As far as homosexuals being so anti-female I’m very sure that part of it is that they compete with women in trying to find a man that is more masculine than they are.
I used to work with a straight guy from Oakland, CA and he filled me in a bit on how homos work. A lot of age 40+ homosexuals are divorced guys with not only issues from divorce but their own sexual confusion… they hate women like Palestinians and Israelis hate each other he said. A lot of younger gays are nice to women… but it’s more in a way that a lot of women are nice to each other… just to get something. The entire gay culture is a culture of users… everyone uses each other.
Also the gay culture is very BDSM centric… which in a straight context doesn’t bother me but they take it to extremes and that can mess ya up in the head. Remember the story of that gay in Germany that CONSENTED to being eaten/cannibalized by another gay male? Or our friend Jeffrey Dahlmer… if ya passed him on the street ya might think he was just a “sweet nice cleancut gay guy” lol.
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Post by Gallowglass on Nov 18, 2005, 10:31pm
I hear you niord, cheers for the info.
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Post by SM777 on Nov 18, 2005, 11:35pm
Feminazi Troll.
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Post by george on Nov 19, 2005, 6:03pm
Probably a mangina
Nov 18, 2005, 4:35am, TyHigs wrote:I suspect PG is a woman. “Threatened by women”? Those STRONG women? hahaha Oh obviously. Pfft.
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Post by TyHigs on Nov 19, 2005, 7:10pm
Nov 18, 2005, 4:27am, PG wrote:I’m an American Male and I’m laughing my ass off at how pathetic you guys are.
I’ve been with a bunch of American women (and some foreign ones) and haven’t had any of the problems you muggs are whining about. With one or two exceptions I’ve been with smart and independent women, and that’s the way I want it. And I’ve had none of the crap that you guys are crying about.
But then, I’m not threatened by women as you obviously are.
And BTW, the women with me have to be politically Liberal, like I am. I can’t fathom being with a Faux News-brainwashed wingnut. And strangely enough, I have no real problem with American women too. Hmmm…..
That’s either a woman or a woman in a man’s body, which would make him a lesbian.
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