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Why Modern, Western Marriage Has Become A Bad Business Decision For Men

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Why Modern, Western Marriage Has Become A Bad Business Decision For Men

This writing seeks to educate men about the realities of what they may be getting into when they marry a Western Woman. An informed decision is less likely to be one that may be regretted later in the marriage. The intent is not to dissuade men from marrying, but to encourage them to communicate frankly their concerns and expectations regarding marriage with their potential spouses. The secondary aim of this essay is to enlighten women to a few of the reasons why increasingly larger numbers of successful, eligible, unmarried men, who would otherwise prefer monogamous long-term relationships, are turning their backs on marriage.

Society typically paints a negative stereotype of men who hesitate, delay, or elect not to marry.

They are labeled as either:

A) Womanisers who are unable to participate in a long term relationship, or
B) Selfish, childish or irresponsible men who can not take care of themselves or another person.

No other explanation is ever explored.

The cost of proclaiming your undying love

In University, in professional sports, in politics, in the workplace; women have the same educational and professional career opportunities as men. Contrary to commonly believed feminist propaganda, women do indeed get paid the same salary as men, given that they are willing to work the same types of jobs as men, and work as many hours as the men do. Despite this reality, many women come into marriage with very few assets, and often are saddled with substantial quantities of debt. In general, men are the ones who save and invest. Don’t believe me? Count the number of women of marrying age that you know who subscribe to financial services magazines or newspapers. A significant number of 20-something and 30-something women spend all of their disposable income on luxury rental apartments, upscale restaurants, frequent exotic vacations, leased cars, spa treatments, and excessive amounts of clothing, purses, shoes and accessories. Yet ironically, in the media, men are the ones who are portrayed as reckless, irresponsible spendthrifts.

When marriage enters the picture, double standards and financial imbalances leave responsible men to pick up the slack and fix the mess she may have made of her finances. Men are forced to spend their hard-earned savings, or take out an usurious loan, on a diamond ring. Women justify this relatively recent, mid-20th Century ritual, which was spawned by a brilliant 1940’s mass-brainwashing campaign launched by DeBeers, by insisting that a man wants to buy her a diamond and that it makes him proud to be able to proclaim his love and affection towards her in this fashion. Granted there are some men who may be inclined to declare their commitment to a life-long partner in this way, but there are plenty of men whom seek a lifelong partnership and commitment who have no interest in buying diamonds. What choice do these men have? None! To many young men, the ring, catered wedding, and honeymoon in an exotic locale at a five-star hotel is an unwelcome land mine on their journey towards adult financial stability and independence. To add insult to injury, he is now locked into a lifetime of insurance payments for this grossly overpriced jewelry. Contrary to popularly held belief diamonds are not rare at all, but instead are common and inexpensive. Their high price is due to their supply having been artificially manipulated. Some men are more concerned with realising their dream of owning a home and becoming financially stable enough to begin a family and responsibly provide for their welfare. Men worry about these matters, because, ultimately, it becomes their sole responsibility.

The purchase of the diamond ring is a predictor of things to come. Immediately after buying it, the man may be rewarded with bridal demands to finance all or part of a lavish wedding, depending upon the size of his bank account and the ambitions of his fiancée. The average costs of today’s Western Weddings frequently exceed that of a house down payment or, in certain parts of the world, the entire cost of the house itself. If a man enters a marriage having saved up a down payment for his dream home, it can suddenly be snatched right out from underneath him. Many men may object to spending such a large sum of money on what is basically a very expensive one-day, four-hour party. He also will be spending a year of his life planning it, when he could use the same time to further his career or education. However, what a man wants is really not of any concern anymore at this point in the proceedings. His wants, desires, hopes and dreams are ignored almost in their entirety. Her opinions regarding the wedding are frequently non-negotiable. A wedding is no longer an event that is equally for the bride and groom. As many of today’s Bridezilla’s will gleefully remind you, “Today is MY day!”. This gives her licence to become selfish, irresponsible, demanding and childlike. A man who balks at spending his entire life savings, or shouldering a five-figure debt load, for the ring, catered wedding and honeymoon in an exotic locale at a five-star hotel, can and will be labeled as a selfish cheapskate or not a “Real Man”. If a woman leaves such a man for him suggesting that they try to keep their costs under control, she would have the full support of everyone around her as she dumped him.

“She can do better”, “Clearly, he doesn’t love her”, “He doesn’t deserve her”, and similar sentiments will be muttered in quiet circles just out of his earshot. This is a sign of her good self-esteem and healthy self-image, and a sign that she won’t settle for anything less. She is the poster girl for the Modern, Independent Woman.

Imagine if a man demanded equal treatment and asked that she buy him a new bass boat, and a two-week bear hunt in Siberia as a condition of marriage. This would be viewed as absurd, yet women do it every day. Modern Western Marriage is supposedly an equal partnership, isn’t it?

The injustices go from bad to worse when children enter the picture. If he can afford to carry the entire familial financial burden, the woman may now elect to stop working entirely. She will often make this decision regardless of how he may feel about it. The day she stops working is the day that all of her past financial baggage unequivocally gets tossed onto his shoulders. If the woman has racked up substantial credit card debts, these are now his payments to make; if the woman has not bothered to pay off her student loans, these become his responsibility; if she owes an enormous sum on her luxury car note, it is up to him to pay it off. Irony of ironies is that he is now paying for her degree and she isn’t even working anymore! Can he object? Can he say: “No Honey, you made your mess, and it should not be my job to clean it up. You knew that you wanted kids even before you met me, and you should have planned ahead.” No, he cannot. The payments can’t be deferred until she is once again able to continue repaying them herself, not if he wants to retain a clean credit rating to get a loan for their dream home. If he even suggested that she return to work to pay off some of her own debt load, he opens himself to criticisms of being an unsupportive husband and bad father who is endangering the welfare of his children. Now the noose tightens and the responsible husband compensates for the mother’s freewheeling and irresponsible past, and begins slowly to pay off her old debts. In the most twisted turn of events yet, the debt he is paying off may often be on credit cards used to finance Vacations, Hotel Rooms and Christmas gifts shared with previous husbands, boyfriends, fiancés and lovers. Caveat Emptor! This is the reward for today’s man who works hard, makes sacrifices, plans ahead, and invests wisely. By getting married to the typical Modern, Western Woman, the man is certainly susceptible to being railroaded into this situation, because it is completely acceptable within today’s gender roles and societal norms.

Marriage can mean career slavery

Anyone who says, “Slavery is dead” clearly has not contemplated the predicament of the average Western Husband, where a good paycheck can mean career slavery. Merriam-Webster’s English Dictionary defines slavery as “…(T)he state of a person who is a chattel (an item of tangible movable or immovable property) of another person.” If the husband earns enough to support both of them, he would be hard pressed to make an argument to preserve equality and have her continue working as he does. If the wife decides to stop working, the man who has been left holding the financial bag finds his options very limited. He may find himself working in a career that he hates, for abusive and exploitative management, excessively long hours, in a position that is physically dangerous or demanding, in an organisation that has no growth potential, far away from home. At this point, considering the corner he’s been painted into, he is often powerless to affect any positive, meaningful change in his own life. He may have been harbouring delusions that once his wife was able to return to work, he would be able to gain some flexibility to rectify some of the shortcomings in his own career. Perhaps changing careers or accepting a lower salary at a different firm in exchange for better hours, a shorter commute, or more fulfilling work. Nevertheless, the distinct reality is that he will continue to shoulder the financial responsibilities of his family alone. His reward for working hard and getting ahead is to become trapped into his career, and become a specialised beast of burden to an emotionally and financially dependent family. Does it really pay to work hard anymore and apply oneself to his full potential?

If she stops working, she may never work again.

There are many debates about the merits of a stay-at-home mother vs. a working mother. My goal here is to simply educate the prospective husband on frequently unseen risks he is taking on when he agrees to accept 100% of the financial burden to allow his wife to stay at home. An informed decision is less likely to be one that may be regretted later in the marriage.

Every parent will agree that staying home with children is backbreaking and often mind-numbing labour. Many new fathers may concede that it is much easier to go to work than to stay at home with several children. However, the greatest imbalance in efforts and contributions to a marriage can manifest once all of the children are of school age. The house is now empty from 8am-3pm. The wife has 7 hours to herself while the kids are at school and the husband is at work. After a few years of hard work at home, many wives may feel entitled to “kick back” and take it easy. The good, supportive husband, however, has worked those same years, has done his 50/50 of the housework, and is still working just as hard to support the family once the kids are in school. His workload has not diminished, and it may have even increased as her expectations rise. He is rarely afforded the same option to scale back his daytime efforts.

What motivation does the modern wife have to return to work? Very little. For several years now, the man’s salary has been enough to live on. Otherwise, she would have been working to make ends meet. Unless tight finances dictate that she must return to work, the husband really has little say in this matter. The wife can hide behind many different excuses in order not to work, despite having little to do from 8am-3pm. Among the commonest are:

“I’m busy with the housework”
It is easy to exaggerate the labours of daily housework. Yet how long does it take to throw clothes or dishes into the washer, and remove them later? Vacuuming can be done in 1 hour a week. Grocery shopping is another hour per week. A decent meal can be prepared in under an hour. Does all of this add up to 7 hours a day? The lie that housework is hard, time-consuming drudgery is no longer as persuasive as it may have been in the past, because in an age of later marriage, many men are already experienced in cooking, cleaning, and general housekeeping and know that it doesn’t take that much effort or time. Humourously, not every stay-at-home-wife even performs all of these duties.

“I can’t find a job”
She has been out of work too long, and therefore is unable to find a job. This may be true, but many men do not consider this risk when they agree to support her while she “temporarily” stops working. Hopefully now they will, and can make a more informed decision. Many wives may use this as a convenient scapegoat to stop looking for any job at all. The next section describes how this can be used against him in the event of divorce.

“It doesn’t pay for me to work”
In the short run, the expenses of returning to work such as gas, lunch, clothes and day care may not make it worthwhile for her to return to the workforce. This may be true, but does that justify her playing tennis, drinking lattes and ‘catching up with her friends’ while her husband toils away? Many couples may be too shortsighted to thoroughly and comprehensively think through this issue. Initially, the cost to benefits ratio may not be ideal, but her returning to work will improve her job skills and network of contacts and over time the return on investment will improve. More so than strolling through the local mall every afternoon and window-shopping for new window treatments. Over time, as her career gets back on track, and she becomes qualified for better jobs, her salary should also improve.

It should be duly noted that some working wives view their salary as “personal spending money”, and still expect the man to pay all or most of the bills. Western Women are often heard to claim that, “What’s mine is mine, and what’s his is ours.”

Even more unfair double standards that favour wives

Cheating
If a married man cheats, he’s the scum of the earth. He is a selfish jerk that has jeopardised the family unit, done his ‘thinking with his little head’, and disrespected his wife and children. However, when the woman cheats, she’s portrayed as the victim of an insensitive and inattentive husband. “Poor thing, he ignores her. It is for her empowerment, to boost her ego. She deserves it after bearing and rearing his children.” It’s good for her self-esteem. Worse, her cheating is portrayed as the man’s fault. If he works long hours to provide for her and the children, he works too much. If he is tired at the end of the day from 13 hours of manual labour, then he doesn’t compliment her as much as she wants. Into this vacuum of conflicting expectations steps the first man who “makes me feel like a Real Woman again…”. You read that correctly; the man who is scrambling to pay the mortgage and car payments and is working double shifts to pay for the consumer goods she demanded to have is now considered a negligent and emotionally abusive husband. The man who may be working two jobs to allow her to be home with her kids is now considered a candidate for Domestic Violence.

When a woman cheats, the first thing people ask is what he did, or more often, didn’t do, to drive her into the arms of another man.

When a man cheats, no one ever asks the same question.

When a woman cheats, the reaction will be; “Oh, poor thing, I guess her husband couldn’t get the job done in the bedroom”.

When a man cheats, no one ever stops to think; “Oh poor fellow, his wife was horrible in bed.”

Let’s not forget what happens if a man were to leave his wife for a younger woman. This will become fodder at the coffee shop for months. It is automatically assumed that he is a shallow sex maniac whose only motivation was to be with a younger woman. The possibility that his wife was of a generation of women who were taught to hate men and that younger women do not, that she was lazy, or a reckless spendthrift, or verbally or physically abusive, or grossly overweight, or an incompetent mother, are rarely considered and are often totally ignored. The myth is that the only reason a man leaves his wife is to be with a younger, more attractive woman. Never mind if she is a better match for him and a more supportive, nurturing mate.

Pre-Nups
If a man insists on a Pre-Nup, he is selfish and unromantic. However, when is the last time a woman who demanded a Pre-Nup was called “unromantic”? On the contrary, if a woman requests a Pre-Nup, she is being fiscally responsible, sensible and looking out for herself. (Note: If your fiancée refuses to sign a Pre-Nup, she has just shown her hand. Best to leave now.) Why is it that a woman can refuse a Pre-Nup, and it is accepted by society? In reality, the man should be outraged that she is after a legal contract, and not love.

What is astounding is the hypocrisy of the usual reaction towards Pre-Nups. Women can conveniently assert that a man is unromantic if he suggests a Pre-Nup. After all, how can a man pollute true love with the signing of legal paperwork! However, what is a marriage licence? Nothing more than a legal contract entered into between the man, woman and local and state government authorities. A woman does not seem to balk at signing this legal paperwork, which entitles her to at least half the assets a man has accumulated as well as half of everything he earns in the future, and obligates him to support her in perpetuity in the event of a breakup. Why aren’t men allowed to note how unromantic this contract is? The distraction of bridal magazines, place setting selection, floral arrangements, wedding dresses, receptions, wedding showers, and honeymoons have clouded the legal reality of what men are getting themselves into. Marriage is as much an unromantic legal contract as a prenuptial agreement is.

Initially, Pre-Nups were devised as a way to protect women. Nuptial agreements were popularised in the 19th century, mostly to protect heiresses from marrying men who were “out for their money”. Until the Married Women’s Property Act of 1848, under English Common Law, a woman’s property, upon marriage, was usually transferred to her husband.

“Stupid, Irresponsible” Men
Men are severely abused in our media, quite frankly. Just watch any TV commercial or sitcom and see how they portray men as idiots, dolts, or well intentioned, if bumbling, buffoons. If women were portrayed in commercials in the same fashion, “Women’s Organisations” would have a fit. If it weren’t for their wives in these shows and ads the men would be lost “animals”, unable to feed themselves or perform even the simplest of tasks. Other commercials make it appear that men act without thinking, only responding in an impulsive and irrational manner, and that the wife is the brains of the family. Even many women will agree that women often are the ones who act upon emotions and make judgments solely based up on emotional attachments and not logic or reason. Almost every “couples budgeting” article will portray the woman as the one who has to rein in the man’s childish spending, when in truth it is usually the woman who cannot control her expenditures.

Job Loss
If a husband loses his job and is having trouble finding work, the wife is completely and totally justified in threatening to leave him. However, can you imagine the reaction if a husband threatened to leave a wife who was in the exact same position? He would be vilified! If a man loses his job, the woman is justified in resenting the fact that the financial burden lies on her. He is no longer a ‘good provider’. When is a man allowed to resent this very same predicament? If a man is laid off and cares for the household and kids while the wife is working, he may be accused of not pulling his weight! Yet this is exactly the same situation that women demand more recognition for with each passing year! No matter what role the man plays, he loses!

Traditional Roles
It is perfectly acceptable for a woman to demand that a man make a certain salary, drive a certain car, live in a certain part of the city, have a certain job, have the ‘right’ manners, talk a certain way, walk a certain way, behave a certain way, have a degree from the ‘right’ University and dress in a stylish fashion, to be deemed “marriage material” and be able to provide her with the stability she feels she deserves. If a man demands his wife do the cooking and cleaning, he can now be labeled old fashioned and sexist. If he asks her to carry her weight financially, just as he does, he may be criticised as an inadequate provider. If a man insists that his wife honor the conjugal requirements of the marriage contract, he can and will be accused of sexual abuse, sexual assault or rape.

To add insult to injury, some women have gotten so pampered that they not only quit their jobs the day they find out they are pregnant, but they then go out and hire as many nannies, cooks, gardeners and pool boys as their husband can afford. Many Western Wives stay at home and hire someone else to rear the kids and clean up, while they drink lattes and go shopping all day with other pampered “stay-at-home” mothers. Does it pay to work hard and get ahead anymore, if this is how your hard-earned money is squandered?

The concept of the pampered wife is a relatively new one. Most of Western Civilisation was primarily an agricultural economy even up until the 1920’s and 1930’s. Western Wives contributed to the well being of the household by helping on the farm. A man needed a wife as an equal partner. It was not until the 1950’s that the first generation of Western Wives, first in The States and later in Europe, Australia and New Zealand, began to emerge as dead weight. Perhaps this coincides with the spiking of the divorce rate in The States, and later Europe and the other English Speaking Nations, and the rise of Feminism. Perhaps men have become tired of giving so much, while getting so little in exchange.

Divorce

43% of Western Marriages end in divorce, and 70% to 93% of these divorces are initiated by women.

All men should consult a legal professional before marrying, and understand the implications of divorce, because the chances are 1-in-3 that they will participate in one whether they like it, want it, inititate it or not.

Upon divorce, all assets accumulated during and prior to a marriage are subject to division. It has become, simply put. a licence to steal. Even if the woman has not worked in years, and has spent the intervening decade(s) shopping and lunching from 8am-3pm, she is entitled to half, or more, of everything the man worked for during the course of the marriage. Is this fair? How many people would ever agree to a job contract that stipulated that in the event of separation that one party would have to return 50% of the gross amount of everything in the pay packet? No one in his or her right mind would knowingly sign such an agreement. Yet Western Men unknowingly agree to the exact same insanity each time they sign their marriage contract!

“Assets accumulated prior to a marriage are exempt from a divorce”. In theory this is true, in practice it is not. If funds from an account are commingled or combined, it can become marital property. How do funds become commingled, or mixed? If even the smallest sum from a prior account is spent towards the marriage, all of that account will now be considered marital property. Buy your child a lollipop from your own account, and a good lawyer will take one-half of it for your ex-wife when you divorce. If a woman moves into a home the man owned prior to the marriage, it is not safe from divorce. If she so much as hangs up a sheet of wallpaper, puts up draperies, paints a wall, or installs a light fixture, the home is now classified as joint marital property, and is now subject to equal division. Worse actually, the man can be ejected from the home if she makes a false claim of domestic violence, physical abuse, verbal abuse or child abuse. Where is the equality and fairness?

Note: “Equal Division” is also somewhat of a misnomer. Often, she can get upwards of 70% – 90% of the assets, while the man gets the majority of the debts! She gets all of the benefits, he gets all of the responsibilities. This, of course, is just and right and is his reward for working so hard all of those years. He can afford it; she can’t because she was not working.

If you pamper your wife, it can be used against you

Imagine that in the spirit of generosity and kindness that you gave a beggar a hot meal. A generous act, indeed. Now imagine your reaction if that same beggar sues you in court. He is petitioning the judge to have you keep providing him with the food that you gave him willingly, freely, out of a big heart. The judge orders you to keep feeding the homeless man meals, indefinitely, forever, because he has become accustomed to eating those meals! This is categorically absurd, yet this happens to Western Men in divorce court every day. Instead of thanking you for paying her bills for all those years, what you get is the privilege of being legally forced to pay her bills forever!

After having children, many women demand to quit working and stay home. Before the kids came along, many of these same women may have been in careers they hated, working long hours, and enduring long commutes. It is the man’s generosity and dedication to his own career that enables her to walk away from her own career. During a marriage, a man with a stay-at-home wife might work long and grueling hours in order to support her. He will pay the mortgage, the property tax, grocery bill, phone bill, cable bill, Internet bill and electric bill. He also pays for her car, gas money, clothes, and vacations.

As one final slap in the face, the man may be punished for working hard enough to allow his wife to have the luxury of staying at home with the kids. As noted above, after the children are in school, the wife may enjoy a life of leisure and relaxation that is afforded to her by her man’s hard work. In the event of divorce, he will be legally obligated to support her for years or decades to come. Because she stopped working and led a life of leisure, the ex-husband is now responsible for supporting her, forever! History has a tendency of rewriting itself. Originally, a woman may have had a career that she may have hated, and was begging to leave. Western Women often “play” at work and career for a few years after University, and then when they near 30 or grow tired of the workplace they seek out a man to “take her away from all of this”, whatever “all of this” may be. In fact her desire to leave the world of work may have been her motivation to have kids in the first place. But now, in her eyes, and definitely her lawyers eyes, she “gave up” her career for her man and his kids. She is now “owed” all of her “lost income”. His gift of leisure and support to her has now become twisted and is viewed as her sacrifice! Another way in which the situation is turned against him is that he will be characterised as being threatened by her having her own career, and that he forced her to quit her “lucrative career” and stay home with the children. Her lawyer will now attempt to convince the judge that he wanted to “oppress” his wife and “keep her down”. Truthfully now, how many men do you personally know that are upset at having a wife that earns a good living? Many of these misleading stereotypes still run rampant in our society, and are routinely used to the woman’s advantage during a divorce. As a result of her not working, regardless of whether she was minding the home or not, she remains a financial liability.

Generous, caring men who spoil their wives should certainly think twice about how this generosity can later be used against them. The phrase used in divorce court is “She has become accustomed to a certain lifestyle”. A husband’s reward for spoiling his wife today is the legal obligation to spoil her indefinitely, forever. Buy her a luxury car today, and you may be obligated to buy her luxury cars after she leaves you for another man! Yet, imagine a husband that became accustomed to eating a home cooked dinner, or regular conjugal visits. Now imagine the courts obligate the ex-wife to continue cooking for him and sharing her bed with him and his new girlfriend each night, despite being divorced! Inconceivable, but it happens the other way around every day!

The ultimate insult, however, comes when the man loses half or more of his life’s assets even when she has decided to leave him. Yes, a wife can unilaterally decide to kick a man out of his own home, and have the courts force him to continue paying the bills, while she is sleeping with her new boyfriend in the very house the husband worked so long and hard to buy! She can, and often does, spend her alimony check on gifts for her new boyfriend or lover! How is it that the legal system supports a woman who feels entitled to this?

The risks are clear, yet what exactly are men getting out of marriage? Many times, the reasons men get married are unfounded.

Many of the traditional reasons why a man gets married are a myth.

“I won’t die alone”
Wrong. The simple fact is that one spouse WILL die alone. Visit the hospital and go to the terminally ill or cardiac departments. Few people have the time to sit with an ill relative all day and all night. Yes, you may get visitors, but they aren’t having the same thoughts as you are. You’re contemplating your mortality, while they’re wondering what food the hospital cafeteria offers. In the end, even with a loving and supportive family, most of us will leave this world alone, unless you both die simultaneously in an accident of some kind. Your spouse may die fifteen years before you, or you may be in the hospital for your last year. Ultimately, we all die alone. Married or not.

“I won’t grow old alone”
Not necessarily. A marriage can self-destruct at any time. Your partner may initiate divorce at age 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, 45, 50, 55, 60, 65 or 70. Many married people end up in the same position (alone) as if they had never married at all. Now they enter their twilight years broke, as a result of being stripped of half or more of their life’s assets, losing half their retirement and pension funds, and being assessed alimony payments. Experiencing financial devastation from one divorce often may preclude a man from ever marrying again. This is a common observation of many middle-aged Western Women. Q: “Where are all the men?”. A: “He is broke from the divorce settlement, alimony and child support payments.” Thus these women don’t find him marriable, and he grows old alone and poor.

Men are led to believe that not marrying implies only one destiny; that of a solitary monk in a cave, a shunned loner. However, life is not so black and white. Not marrying does not mean you cannot continue to date or have meaningful relationships throughout your life. There are plenty of single people in all age brackets. A bad marriage can be the loneliest of institutions, because most of your emotional outlet and companionship is concentrated into one person who gives back nothing in emotion, affection or support. Young men in their 20’s and 30’s should be more aware of the alternatives that exist in life. They should be aware that marriage is a choice, and is not the only path life has to offer. An informed decision is less likely to be one that is later regretted.

“I’ll get regular sex”
Not from Modern, Western Women. Access to regular sex is the oldest and the most frequently cited reason to marry. Many men now know that Modern, Western Women frequently stop having sex after just a short time of being married. There are plenty of “sexless” marriages. Talk to a few married couples that are honest about their relationship. One or both partners may stop wanting sex after kids, or the sex may be as infrequent as once a year or once every six months, or the wife may only have sex when she wants the husband to buy her something, take her somewhere, or remodel the house. Read the honest opinions of married men on the Internet. Most Western, Married Men will have more sex with their Western Wives in the first six months of their marriage than they will in the next 40 years. Lastly, it remains to be seen whether sex with one exclusive partner for forty years or more is even a natural act, or just a man-made convention. In many Western Nations, the wife is no longer required to have sex with her husband. She can deny him at any time, for any length of time. She can, if she wishes, deny him sex forever and there is nothing that he can do about it. In fact, if he insists that she honor her end of the marriage contract by being available for sexual relations, he can and will be accused of, charged with, and arrested for Domestic Violence, Sexual Assault or Rape.

Marriage is hardly a guarantee of regular sex, as many people are led to believe.

“I’ll have someone to cook and clean for me”
Not necessarily. While a Modern, Western Woman is perfectly justified in quitting her job in the name of staying home with the kids, she can also demand that the husband pay for a cook, a maid, and a nanny. This leaves the man to earn the money, and leaves him to pay for maintenance of household and children, while the wife gets to play at being a housekeeper. Today’s woman is empowered by not performing the traditional housewife duties, regardless of whether she is working or not. If a husband asks that his wife perform traditional household duties because she is not working, he will often be labeled sexist, abusive or controlling, even if he is doing his “traditional role” of paying all the bills, providing for his family, and performing the traditional manly duties of vehicle repairs, maintaining the lawn and house upkeep.

“I have to be married to have kids”
Not anymore. Her ovaries do not physically need a contract at the government center in order to be fertilised by your sperm. Cro-Magnon man had children long before lawyers invented marriage contracts. Often, you do not need to be married in order to share health benefits. You do not need to be married to designate your partner on a life insurance policy. You do not need to be married to own a dream home together. It is ironic that responsible parents who raise a healthy family, but never actually sign marriage paperwork, get less respect than divorced parents or married parents who are ineffective, inattentive or incompetent.

-Having a lifelong, faithful, committed relationship has nothing to do with being “married”.
-Owning a beautiful dream home together has nothing to do with being “married”.
-Rearing healthy, happy, and successful children has nothing to do with being “married”.
-Building a family and life together has nothing to do with being “married”.
-Growing old together has nothing to do with being “married”.

In fact, recent changes in cohabitation, partner and marriage law have proven that the only tangible consequence of marriage is having a formalised separation process that usually requires the talents of an attorney.

You do need to be married in order to throw an extravagant four-hour party, and share the same last name.

You do need to be married in order to involve the state and government in your romantic affairs.

You do need to be married in order give away half of everything you own.

Besides that, marriage does nothing more than introduce lawyers and social workers into your life. These are people that otherwise would have nothing to do with your life or your relationship.

Men need to stop and ask themselves:

“Why exactly am I getting married? What exactly does marriage mean to me in today’s world? What is the benefit to me to get married?”

It is no longer a lifelong commitment, because it can be reversed overnight on her unilateral whim.

Marriage was originally created as a way for families to merge land, property, political power and influence; perhaps people should return to viewing it as just that and nothing more. The rest of it is fake modern TV Fantasy and Tabloid Gossip and Hype polluting the minds of today’s impressionable youth, and a way to keep the multi-billion-per-year wedding industry chugging along. Perhaps the only criteria should be to ask oneself: “How excited am I for us to merge our finances and assets?” When all the fluff and hype are boiled away, that may be the only remaining reality. Spend a day in divorce court, and you’ll see exactly what is real and tangible and lasting about marriage. You’ll see women who signed the marriage contract under romantic pretenses who are now expert laymen attorneys who can cite case law. Bouquet throwing ex-brides now embroiled in warfare to get everything that is coming to them and more! The rest are myths, lies, bold unsubstantiated promises, and maybes. “For better or for worse…”

The Western Divorce rate is 43%. It is higher in some parts of the world such as California, Great Britain and Australia. In Japan the recent change in pension law may have many pensioners out on the street. In India new changes to dowry law have men being threatened by their wives. Consider the number of people who are in a bad marriage, but elect to stay; Men who don’t want to lose 50%, women who know they can’t support themselves alone. Next, think of how many more couples stay together just for the sake of the kids. Of these “forced marriages”, consider how many of these marriages involve infidelity, no sex, or sleeping in separate beds or separate rooms. I estimate the percentage of happy and monogamous marriages to be under 5%. Are these odds you would take in a business venture, investment or loan? Most of the risk-averse population would not. Yet they seek this exception to the rule everyday through marriage.

Written by dontmarry

November 21, 2008 at 4:44 pm

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  1. Oh, shut up already, Heather. You have no intellect. You married an abusive, deadbeat man and had children with him. That alone makes you an idiot.

    Robert

    October 4, 2014 at 7:48 pm

    • Good one, Robert. Why do women like Heather think they are some kind of feminine hero just because they married an abusive man who turns out to be a deadbeat father? There is a wonderful old expression: “With whom you are is what you are.” You can’t pick out a decent man who would be a wonderful husband and father? What does that say about you?

      Kirk

      October 4, 2014 at 7:53 pm

      • U crazy

        Anonymous

        October 4, 2014 at 8:14 pm

        • Again you reveal your true identity. So u crazy and u stupid.

          Kirk

          October 4, 2014 at 8:23 pm

      • 🐰CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG ?!🌷💋

        Valkyrie

        October 4, 2014 at 9:37 pm

        • Only if you apologize.

          Kirk

          October 4, 2014 at 10:02 pm

        • Planning on writing any more autobiographical cookbooks?

          Kirk

          October 5, 2014 at 8:33 am

        • Not with femi-nazis.

          Kirk

          October 5, 2014 at 8:40 am

        • Hi !!….I’m Brian Fellows. Marriage is crazy!

          Lamar

          October 6, 2014 at 6:36 pm

      • Hmm never heard that one ? Actually heathers been very sweet. You mustin shout. Such things She is a Hero. To her family and friends x

        Valkyrie

        October 4, 2014 at 9:40 pm

        • Who is shouting? And Heather should be a hero to everyone.

          Kirk

          October 4, 2014 at 10:02 pm

          • Yes she’s. The kindest person True hearted.

            Valkyrie

            October 4, 2014 at 10:06 pm

            • Then she should apologize too.

              Kirk

              October 4, 2014 at 10:18 pm

            • Well, she had kids with a man who was abusive so she wasn’t kind as a mother. Why would a kind mother have kids with an abusive man? Why would she subject those kids to that? Or maybe he was kind and she just dumped him claiming that she was the victim? You know, like you have been doing on this blog. That would also be cruel to the kids.

              Kirk

              October 5, 2014 at 8:39 am

        • I’ll bet the people in your fantasies are very sweet. Try being sweet in the real world and you may actually meet some heroes.

          Kirk

          October 5, 2014 at 8:33 am

        • Perhaps Heather was sweet to the man whom she claimed was abusive. She probably isn’t sweet to any good men – you know, like the typical woman.

          Kirk

          October 5, 2014 at 8:37 am

          • Oh my. Typical woman ? Sounds like woman hater.
            You need to apologize . Please stop. Cussing. It’s quite abusive . Note
            In protical thus site is to enlighten women , not abuse and verbally batter them.

            Valkyrie

            October 5, 2014 at 3:23 pm

            • Shaming language? Typical man-hater. You need to apologize. “Heather” is the one who blamed her troubles on a man so blame her. No one cussed. Are you referring to the voices and personalities in your head? The purpose of this site is to provide support to men, not to accuse, blame and shame them. Please stop. Get help. Stop stalking, abusing, and battering men. It’s against the law.

              Kirk

              October 5, 2014 at 5:06 pm

              • Come on now……anyone named “Heather”, “Jennifer”, etc., should be kept at arms length. These quintessential American names are the embodiment of what’s wrong with the institution of marriage. Young, predatory women who aspire to marry a 6’2″ talk dark handsome man, strong but sensitive, but not a wimp, not too controlling, and will make a kick ass living so that she can eventually take her foot of the gas pedal and let him do all the heavy lifting. It’s called pimping my friends. Cajoling a man into tying the knot and then manipulating him in order to get what she wants. If he doesn’t comply he’s abusive, selfish, etc. Women want to pimp you out …don’t you all get it? Live free or die.

                Lamar

                October 6, 2014 at 6:51 pm

                • You should check out femi-commie Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Femi-commie teachers are allowed to go to work showing more cleavage than a stripper of the 1980s (and I’m being very conservative here).

                  Those sluts and the Slut Walk movement really showed the true colours of feminism. Luckily none of my relatives have enrolled their children to any public school in Canada, and they always keep check on the teacher.

                  Those female teachers who expose too much of their bodies in class should not be allowed to teach. It gives a bad example for students.

                  Kim Gervais used to flaunt her cleavage in class, and look where she is now–in jail, not because she flaunted her cleavage to Grade 6 students, but she used her cleavage to groom and lure under-aged students to her house.

                  Stuart

                  October 7, 2014 at 1:20 pm

            • Stop stalking me. You are violating the Uniform Code of Military Justice. If you are a soldier, you should know that you are out of line.

              10 USC § 920a

              § 551. OFFENSE OF STALKING UNDER THE UNIFORM CODE OF MILITARY JUSTICE.
              (a) Establishment of Offense –

              (1) NEW PUNITIVE ARTICLE- Subchapter X of chapter 47 of title 10, United States Code (the Uniform Code of Military Justice), is amended by inserting after § 920 (article 120) the following new section:

              § 920a. Art. 120a. Stalking

              (a) Any person subject to this section —

              (1) who wrongfully engages in a course of conduct directed at a specific person that would cause a reasonable person to fear death or bodily harm, including sexual assault, to himself or herself or a member of his or her immediate family;

              (2) who has knowledge, or should have knowledge, that the specific person will be placed in reasonable fear of death or bodily harm, including sexual assault, to himself or herself or a member of his or her immediate family; and

              (3) whose acts induce reasonable fear in the specific person of death or bodily harm, including sexual assault, to himself or herself or to a member of his or her immediate family.

              is guilty of stalking and shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.

              (b) In this section:

              (1) The term “course of conduct” means —

              (A) a repeated maintenance of visual or physical proximity to a specific person; or

              (B) a repeated conveyance of verbal threat, written threats, or threats implied by conduct, or a combination of such threats, directed at or toward a specific person.

              (2) The term `repeated’, with respect to conduct, means two or more occasions of such conduct.

              (3) The term `immediate family’, in the case of a specific person, means a spouse, parent, child, or sibling of the person, or any other family member, relative, or intimate partner of the person who regularly resides in the household of the person or who within the six months preceding the commencement of the course of conduct regularly resided in the household of the person.’.

              (2) CLERICAL AMENDMENT- The table of sections at the beginning of such subchapter is amended by inserting after the item relating to section 920 the following new item:

              § 920a. 120a. Stalking.

              (b) Applicability- Section 920a of title 10, United States Code (article 120a of the Uniform Code of Military Justice), as added by subsection (a), applies to offenses committed after the date that is 180 days after the date of the enactment of this Act.

              Kirk

              October 5, 2014 at 5:18 pm

      • “With whom you are is what you are”

        It would be nice if the men here could apply that to themselves. If you are worried that the woman you want to marry is demanding an expensive wedding, not going to work, etc then you’re probably picking the wrong woman. Pick someone who has a compatible financial and lifestyle mindset.

        A lot of the article is generalizing to a huge extent. None of my friends had huge weddings. We are all English graduates and we know well and good what our finances are like. One of my friends who recently married did NOT demand a diamond ring. Instead she and her husband both got matching brushed metal wedding bands, without gems. Very affordable and I know it has a lot of significance for them both. All of my married female friends work and plan on working throughout their lives. We did not attend school for 7+ years to become stay-at-home mothers. Even if my friends (or I) decided to stay home to raise children, it is likely that we would continue to work from home as writers, designers or online teachers, etc and transition back into the workforce once our kids reached school age. The fact is, we love our jobs and frankly, it’s impossible to live securely in a one-income household. What if the husband gets fired or laid off from work?

        I’ll be getting married in less than a year. I will not be asking for a diamond ring. I am not even planning on having a large traditional ceremony. I’m signing legal papers and having a small party with close friends and family. I will be cooking the food and decorating the venue with handmade decorations, perhaps with the help of friends. My wedding dress will be NOT be an expensive wedding gown. I’ll be wearing a vintage dress instead. I do not plan on starting married life in debt…

        So, before generalizing, please realize that not all women are demanding and materialistic. And even if many are, look closely at what society and media has guided us to think is expected or a “norm”. If you are annoyed that women “expect” a diamond ring, stop and think about who planted that expectation in their heads in the first place. If movies and magazines and tv shows and music and even parents tell you from an early age that part of getting married is getting a big fancy ring and a white princess gown, what else do you expect?

        Anon

        October 14, 2014 at 4:13 pm

        • You’ll note that we’re advocating that men not get married. We did apply “that” to ourselves, and we rejected those relationships or those offerings.

          Most of us are here to warn other men of the larger problem:

          What we’re pointing out, that most of you shamers miss, is that the court system, along with our culture, has a huge bias and double standard. It refuses to hold women accountable, but it holds men accountable for what she does, while rationalizing and minimizing her role.

          They (courts, culture) infantilize women. Sure, not all women, but the person who’s ethics we may admire today won’t have them when she decides, with the courts and societies cheers, that we’re no longer welcome company, for whatever trivial reason she rationalizes.

          And women lie to make themselves victims, to rationalize the narcissistic evil they’ll do to their husbands and to their children. And the rest of you will nod your heads and say “you go, Grrrrrl! Stick it to him! He’s a jerk and a loser, and doesn’t deserve you!”

          So, I’m genuinely happy that you’re getting married, and focussed on what matters, rather than the narcissistic orgy of bridal extravagance. Personally, I like bridal dresses – many of them are stunningly beautiful (or, at least with the models they’re pictured on). Good for you for having the foresight to not start in debt.

          The fact remains, though, that if and when you want to terminate your relationship with your husband:
          1. it doesn’t matter what he did or didn’t do, or what you’ve done
          2. You’ll get the kids, unless you’re really a train-wreck
          3. He’ll be a visitor in the kids lives – quite likely 4 to 6 days a month.
          4. Because you’ll get the kids, you’ll get the lion’s share of the marital assets, and
          5. He’ll get the obligation to pay off the marital liabilities, and
          6. You’ll get a subsidy or two for the decision you made, regardless of who initiated the divorce, or who was the bad actor in the divorce.
          7. The attorney general and the court will only be interested in one aspect of your divorce decree: weather or not he pays. Nothing about asset division, child custody and access, geographic restrictions, etc, receives federal funding and the state’s attention for enforcement.

          basically, what happens for the rest of his life is largely in your hands, and your whim.

          You may plan today that you’re going to stick with your career, and have promised your husband that you’re going to work. If you change your mind tomorrow, and decide to stay home, there’s nothing he can do about it. Heading into court, you’ll still have an advantage. In fact, if *he* decided to be a stay-at-home husband, the court would still grant you the more favorable divorce terms. We’re back to this: you can do as you please, and he’s expected to work his ass off.

          That’s great that you don’t intend to, *today*. What’s important is that you can hold him accountable, but he can’t hold you accountable, regardless of your respective vows. This asymmetry in responsibility and accountability is what we’re pointing out – and no amount of “you picked the wrong person” is going to fix a fundamental problem with the law and the outcomes of family court.

          If *you* picked the wrong person, the court is there to help you. If *he* picked the wrong person, the court is there to help *you*.

          Wayne

          October 14, 2014 at 6:39 pm

        • @Anon

          You typed: “With whom you are is what you are” It would be nice if the men here could apply that to themselves.

          We are applying it to ourselves. That’s why we choose not to marry. We don’t want to be with users and homewreckers who care nothing about men and children.

          You and your friends didn’t have big weddings because you couldn’t afford them. But no doubt when you decide to divorce and take the kids, you will make the man pay even if he is a good man — with the assistance of the legal system.

          You and your friends should continue to work. And you shouldn’t get the assets and income of your husbands when you decide to divorce them just because you all get bored.

          You continue to talk about the wedding and the diamond ring and how you don’t care for those things. But the real question is, will you demand your alimony and marital property distributions when you file for divorce? Will you take the kids away from their father, prevent them from seeing him too often and still demand huge amounts of child support?

          Claiming that you are not materialistic and shallow just because you don’t want a diamond ring and a big wedding proves nothing. It’s the way you treat your husband during the marriage that counts. If you decide to divorce him on a whim and break up a family just because you are bored and just so you can take it all, then you are indeed a materialistic, shallow person.

          Until the legal system changes and treats men with the respect they deserve, men should not marry. No one should have to live at the mercy of someone else’s selfish desires.

          Kirk

          October 14, 2014 at 10:18 pm

        • If be happy getting married in a meadow. Barefoot. In a white Cotten dress. Simple sweet undivided love of honor and loyalty.

          Valkyrie

          October 16, 2014 at 1:10 pm

        • I looked up Islamic marriage laws- they are fair to men and women; simplicity is advocated at the wedding, and the marriage has to be balanced between taking and giving on both sides.
          In Islam, in fact, women are advised to be grateful to their husbands since the husband is expected to be the provider and maintainer. Women are expected to put their fair share in as well to maintain a mutually beneficial relationship so that both sides’ needs are met.

          Tea

          October 19, 2014 at 10:30 am

          • Even Muslim men are having problems in dealing with their wives! Liberalism and feminism has affected all religions and men of all faiths! We would all be better off staying single and going to hookers to get our sexual satisfaction!

            Don

            October 19, 2014 at 11:27 am

        • You truly are an intelligent woman! I have seen more women have big white weddings that cost their parents thousands of dollars and end up getting divorced within a year or two! You are truly wise beyond your years! I wish I had married a woman like you!

          Don

          October 21, 2014 at 10:34 pm

  2. you know guys debate is good but in the art of debate when name calling starts you have lost I’m friends with Val she is a good person these personal attacks on her and what I’ve read on here show me that all this site is a woman hating group are there bad women yup I’ve a few of them but there are just as many bad men too you have to take them as individuals so all I ask is LEAVE VALKYRIE ALONE

    Lary Last Gunfighter Lemin

    October 5, 2014 at 3:09 am

    • Can we wrap up this episode of sock puppet theater now, please?

      Kirk, I normally like following your posts here, and with all due respect there is an old adage about arguing with idiots like Ms. Multi-personality here. Might be time to just let her shut the fuck up and go away already. My email inbox is beyond cluttered by the time I get to it as it is.

      Little Big Autobot

      October 5, 2014 at 6:49 am

      • I understand how you feel but I believe it’s better to stand up to internet trolls and bullies. They have to learn that they are not going to get their way, much like the femi-nazis are learning that they are not going to get their way either.

        Kirk

        October 5, 2014 at 8:30 am

    • You look like a cop, so why don’t you apprehend the female pedophile teachers?

      Ventura

      October 5, 2014 at 10:31 am

      • How can you say Kirk looks like a cop, when you can’t see him? And why does he have to apprehend the female pedophile teachers when the cops should be doing it? Don’t you think they should be apprehended? What kind of question is that? Would you tell someone to apprehend the male pedophile teachers or would you demand the police do it?

        Sally the Nurturing Goddess

        October 5, 2014 at 11:13 am

        • Sally, thank you for your loyalty to me, but I believe Ventura was addressing Lary Last Gunfighter Lemin, who has a Facebook page. But then, anyone can set up a fake Facebook page. In fact, there was a troll on this blog who went by the name Anonymous (another version of Valkyrie) who admitted to setting up fake identities.

          Kirk

          October 5, 2014 at 5:16 pm

      • If I were a cop, Ventura, I would apprehend them. But I have helped with a number of arrests. Now, what are you doing about it?

        Kirk

        October 5, 2014 at 11:14 am

    • Since Valkyrie is the one who started the name calling, she should leave this site alone. There are plenty of femi-nazi sites out there where she can spread her hatred. This is a support site for men. Now, to a femi-nazi, a support site for men is a woman-hating group just like a support site for Jews is a German-hating group to the Nazis. There are bad men and bad women out there but the bad women always get more support just like the Nazis got a lot of support. So all I ask is VALKYRIE, LEAVE THIS WEBSITE ALONE. DON’T WANT ANY MORE COMMENTS? DON’T COMMENT AND UNSUBCRIBE FROM THE WEBSITE. YOU KEEP COMING BACK SO YOU ARE THE BULLY.

      Sally the Nurturing Goddess

      October 5, 2014 at 11:11 am

    • Maybe you are Valkyrie?

      Don

      October 19, 2014 at 12:56 pm

      • No kindly. That was clarified. Brian can verify that. Also someone wrote not Valkyrie. That very strange.

        Valkyrie

        October 19, 2014 at 2:17 pm

  3. I agree!
    I always enjoy reading Kirk’s posts, and his linear, exacting and inexorable destructions of what some idiot posts here. But it seems to me that he is attempting to empty the ocean with a teacup with this.
    Feed a troll and it breeds.
    Ignore the troll, let it starve.

    Brian

    October 5, 2014 at 7:01 am

    • Thanks, Brian. But I don’t think this troll will starve by ignoring it. It needs to be challenged, just like the femi-nazis need to be challenged. Hate must always be challenged or it spreads like a virus.

      Kirk

      October 5, 2014 at 8:31 am

      • Kirk, the troll successfully hid those posts about Commie Canada female teachers.

        Looks like the female pedophile teachers in Canada are scared about their operations in Canada’s public schools.

        Ventura

        October 5, 2014 at 10:33 am

        • As well they should be. Posts are never hidden for long.

          Kirk

          October 5, 2014 at 11:16 am

          • Who are trolls. And who are you referring to?

            Valkyrie

            October 5, 2014 at 3:51 pm

            • Google trolls for a definition. What makes you think I am referring to someone? Is everything about you and your personalities?

              Kirk

              October 5, 2014 at 5:03 pm

  4. Simone de Beauvoir was a lesbo pedophile so its no amazement that one of the biggest femiNazi cities in the world Toronto,Canada contains so
    many female pedophhile teachers.

    Ventura

    October 5, 2014 at 10:30 am

    • And they should be stopped as all pedophiles should be.

      Kirk

      October 5, 2014 at 11:18 am

  5. for those of you who don’t believe Val she is the daughter of a Hollywood gun coach who instructed actors including James Arness,James Garner, Kevin Costner her dad is seen in the opening credits of the TV show Gunsmoke getting shot by James Arness she is trained in martial arts and has acted in TV and movies you can look her if you know her name. I am a single dad of 3 who happens to be a friend of hers and learning her father’s quick-draw style of shooting if I thought she was a bad person I would not defend her but she is a stand up lady who does not deserve these personal attacks

    • For those of you who don’t believe, Kirk is the son of a famous, wealthy celebrity who then started her own Fortune 500 company. He is trained in medicine and the martial arts and you could look him up if you knew his name. I am a married mother of 6 who is happily married to a wonderful man whom I respect and if I thought Kirk was a bad person, I would not defend him, but he is a great guy who does not deserve these attacks from a femi-nazi.

      Sally the Nurturing Goddess

      October 5, 2014 at 11:23 am

    • Never mind stating who she is the daughter of and what her training is. You want to verify who she is then just state her name. If she is a real actress, why wouldn’t she reveal her name? Why wouldn’t you reveal her name?

      Kirk

      October 5, 2014 at 1:06 pm

      • Because there are cruel predictors about. And like you said why would you care

        Valkyrie

        October 5, 2014 at 3:07 pm

        • You are the one who brought it up. If you are so desperate to be believed, then why not just go all the way and state your name? If you don’t care, then why do you keep coming back in so many forms?

          Kirk

          October 5, 2014 at 4:59 pm

    • Thank you Larry
      You are a great Sherriff
      They will mimick back what you say
      Thank you for your kindness xo

      Valkyrie

      October 5, 2014 at 3:10 pm

      • Thank you Sally.
        You are a great nurturer.
        She will come back in more forms.
        Thank you for your nurturing loyalty xo

        Kirk

        October 5, 2014 at 5:00 pm

  6. My name is Tonio Nolaws. I happy married to woman for 20 years and have 4 childs.
    one day, evil happen. wife turn to feminism. she threaten to leave and take childs.
    she cheat. very angry.
    i find priestess – Rev. Lanika Lenoki. she cast spell. wife forget about feminism. now she knows that feminism is evil. she come back to me and loves me.

    Tonio Nolaws

    October 5, 2014 at 1:09 pm

    • That’s sweet. I hope you will be happy

      Valkyrie

      October 5, 2014 at 3:06 pm

      • Then you should go to the Rev. Lenoki, Valkyrie. She can cure you of your femi-nazism and then maybe you will find a good man.

        Kirk

        October 5, 2014 at 5:01 pm

  7. So Valkyrie, was your father Chuck Roberson? Verify your credentials since you seem to be obsessed with everyone on this blog believing you.

    Kirk

    October 5, 2014 at 5:12 pm

  8. I heard about this site. And I could not believe what I was told. But after reading the post and attacks on women. I can only say is real men do not treat women like this. This is a hate women page. So if your hating women you must have a women that was very wise and left your butt. So pull up your big boy pants buttercup and move on.

    Now for attacks on Valkyrie I can assure you this lady is one of the sweetest people I know. So leave her alone.

    Marine

    October 5, 2014 at 6:50 pm

    • I heard about this site too. I heard that this is a wonderful support site for men but there was this female troll posting under different names and making hateful comments about men. I can only say that real women do not treat men like this. This is a man-hating troll. So if you hate men, you must have a man that was very smart and left your ass. So pull down your big girl dress, hag, and move on. Stop stalking a male support site.

      Now for the attacks on Kirk (and all of the other men), I can assure you this gentleman is one of the most generous, caring and strongest men I know. So leave him alone. You don’t deserve him or any man with your consuming hatred.

      Navy Seal

      October 5, 2014 at 6:55 pm

    • If you believe this is a hate-woman page, why do you keep visiting it? There are PLENTY of hate-man pages out there so visit those. The legal system is a hate-man legal system, the social service system is a hate-man social service system and the media is hate-man media. You are not satisfied?
      A few sites exist that focus on men’s issues and women are threatened. A woman could have a whole mansion at her disposal but a man sets up his own sanctuary in a corner of the basement and she has got to invade that immediately. Let the guys have their man caves already before the they disappear and then who will be able to afford the mansion? Look at the poverty out there. Can we afford to put down a group of people? We are going to need everybody to rebuild our faltering society and that’s not going to happen with the shrinking tax base, a recessive economy and an immoral society that focuses on group rights over universal rights.

      Pete

      October 5, 2014 at 9:28 pm

      • Amen to that brother! Go see that new movie with Ben I cannot spell his last name I think it is affelt but anyway it is about his wife disappearing ! Great movie and shows how evil a woman can be that is scorned!

        Don

        October 5, 2014 at 11:22 pm

      • Don’t be surprised if all of these trolls came from the teachers unions in Femicommie Canada….Kirk and a few guys were posting about how female vice principals and principals were covering up child sex abuse cases in schools…but as soon someone blew the whistle of female child predator teachers in Canada.

        There looks like to be a troll campaign by the teachers unions, probably in Marxist Ontario. The Premier is a Lesbian and a former Trustee of a school board.

        It looks like the female sexual deviants in Commie Canada are steaming mad that men are waking up from the socialist Marxist feminist system!!

        Just the other day the government funded full-day kindergarten in Canada…while thousands of families can’t afford food in metro Toronto because of insufficient social services for the poor.

        Heck, even the top earning public sector workers in Ontario are Femi-Commie teachers…but for a femi-Commie school board and teacher union to troll MGTOW pages is a tad Marxist and totalitarian.

        Stuart

        October 7, 2014 at 1:10 pm

        • I think you may be onto something, Stuart. It’s funny how the troll came out after an extended discussion about female child molesters. But then again, this troll acted up this time last year. Perhaps it’s her birthday and she realizes she is one year older and still doesn’t have a man. Or, it could be the time when she was divorced and she realizes what a mistake it was. Who knows. Just because someone is in pain doesn’t meant that s/he should abuse others.

          Kirk

          October 7, 2014 at 6:17 pm

          •  The weather is getting colder, especially up north. That’s when our instincts tell us to cocoon somewhere safe with our mates. When you long for the warm comfort of someone beside you in through the short, sharp days and those long, dark, bitter nights.  The holidays are coming, with all that cheery, family joy to share together. Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years, Valentines Day. Those wonderful bright times when it is so nice to have someone to share it with, warming the long, cruel Canadian winter. And of course, teachers get all those holidays off. Mayhap our troll is looking down at another hard, cold winter, and its holidays……….alone. Yeah, that might do it.  “Truth forever on the gallows, lies forever on the throne”

            Brian Shipley

            October 7, 2014 at 6:36 pm

            • Exactly right, Brian. Another insightful post from you. People do become more depressed during the fall and winter season. Those that are wise learn from their mistakes, change their ways, and move on. But others refuse to change, blame others and become bitter. Hopefully, these people will find the guidance they need but in the current age of self-entitlement, political correctness and personality disorders, that may not be the case.

              Kirk

              October 7, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    • Where you a marine? I was in the 101st airborne and some of us became the 160th. We were a part of what you call night stalkers! When did you serve? that is if you served. My dad was in Korea during the war in 51 and flew on the b-26 ‘s back then They use to fly 50 feet over the water. He is 83 now and I took him to an air show 2 years ago and he knew every plane there. He cant walk to good now but he is tough as ever! Take care

      Don

      October 5, 2014 at 11:28 pm

      • Yes he is one. And I’ll give this over to General Chuck Yeager. And his wife Victoria. To view. Known Chuck as a young girl. Why do doubt the credability if a US. Soldier ?

        Valkyrie

        October 6, 2014 at 12:17 am

        • Funny, you keep throwing out names to prove your “creditability,” but you won’t give us your name. Then you ask why we doubt you. Your posts should be shown to the proper authority to see if you are impersonating a Marine.

          Kirk

          October 6, 2014 at 3:00 am

          • I requested kindly several times to stop you’re demeaning me constantly.
            I never said I was a Marine. My husband is US Army .
            Thank you

            Valkyrie

            October 6, 2014 at 10:24 am

            • Valkyrie, or whatever your name is, I don’t care if you request 1,000 times, you deserve to be treated the way you are being treated. You post anti-male comments under different names and you have been doing it for years. You claim to be on the side of men but you still haven’t challenged the anti-men comments made by people (which we know are all you) on this blog. You claimed to have conducted illegal social security searches on another poster, Susan, and now you claim to be a US Army soldier or married to a US Army soldier. Add impersonating military personnel to your list of offenses.

              You also claim to be an actress and a firearms specialist who is trained in the marital arts. But you know what? You act like a child. You get your “husband” and “friends,” which are all you again, to fight your battles for you and then you claim you are going to report me to the US Army because you are offended. You are like a little brat who called the other students names and is now threatening to run to the teacher because they called her names right back.

              Plus, you claim to be the daughter of some guy who taught some famous actors on how to use guns in movies. But you don’t give your name.

              Do you think you are impressing anyone? Do you think you are scaring anyone? Do you think you are going to control anyone here? Grow up. I will keep posting here and challenging you even if you claim to take this to the President of the United States.

              Even if you did take this to the US Army or the President, what do you think they will do? Do you seriously believe they will take the time out of their busy schedules to reprimand others just because you got your feelings hurt after you have been lurking and harassing people on this blog? They will know that you are a disturbed person and will either 1) ignore you, 2) tell you to stop visiting and posting on this site if you don’t like it, or 3) track you down to see what crimes you have committed because you really do sound like a nut job. From what I understand, you are being tracked.

              So you can keep posting 1,000 times and I will post right back at least 1,000 times. You have no control over here and you never will. Go back and try to control your own life because it is seems to be spiraling out of control.

              Thank you.

              Kirk

              October 6, 2014 at 10:44 am

    • Sounding like a typical mangina white knight from Commie Canada, in particular Toronto or Vancouver.

      So pointing out that female sex offender teachers are given a free pass in society is “hateful”? Only the female sex offenders and feminists in Canada would react with Marxist totalitarian force, like the trolls on this forum.

      Stuart

      October 7, 2014 at 1:13 pm

  9. Female pedophiles in Canada often try get jobs as an elementary of high school teacher, daycare worker, tutor or any means to access alone time with the child in the preferred age group.

    A Toronto Star report claims that the Toronto District School Board uses the administrative policy of “passing the trash” when female teachers are accused of grooming and molesting underaged students.

    The passing the trash is whereby a female teacher who is accused of molesting students is given the opportunity to hide all evidence and transfer to another school so that parents and the media
    will not be aware of the misconduct. In addition, when passing the trash occurs, the accused female teacher is allowed to use the legal attorneys from the Ontario Federation of Teachers/ Elementary Federation of Teachers/ Toronto District School Board/ Ontario Principals Council to censor anyone from posting the allegations of the internet.

    When looking out for a child sex offender, don’t be fooled by the teacher’s appearance, outward respectability or importance in the community. One teacher Kim Gervais, was viewed as a likeable teacher by students and friends, but she was convicted of luring preteen boys into her house for her sexual advantage. Kim Gervais was a white anglophole woman, she was given a 6 month sentence and she is free to continue acting on her sick deviant fantasies under the protection of the feminist movement in Canada.

    Child molester teachers of the Toronto District School Board tend to have a higher level of power in the organization which makes it difficult for teachers to report their suspicions to the police. One informer claimed that teachers at an Etobicoke High School was aware that a female administrator was luring a minor into her car, but the teachers knew that if they reported the inicdent to the Toronto police, the police will side with the female administrator. The police received a backlash from the feminist movement, so as an act of remorse the Toronto police appears to be lenient to female sex offenders. Thus, if these indicators, combined with a pattern of behavior that arouses suspicion, are present, the female child molester teacher will be let off the hook. This was defintely the case when the female administrator was allowed by the Toronto District School Board to work at another school.

    Parents must learn how to detect warning signs to keep children safe from predator teachers, because the Toronto District School Board is busy defending the rights of pedophiles, lesbians and other sexual deviants.

    Stuart

    October 7, 2014 at 1:04 pm

    • Kim Gervais was showing her cleavage to lure three students into her home…what a perverted bitch. Commie Canada gave her 6 months prison time for exploiting minors.

      Kev

      October 11, 2014 at 3:56 am

  10. listen my wife has friends that are all controlled by their husbands and I myself could see they had all lost their identities! When my wife pointed out that i was being insecure and jealous it made me take a good look at myself and i have made changes within myself! She has friends of the opposite sex as I do and I have no problem with that and either does she! I look at her sisters and see how controlled they are it is so sad!

    Don

    October 7, 2014 at 2:04 pm

    • Very sad, but it’s good you both have each other.

      Valkyrie

      October 7, 2014 at 4:21 pm

      • I do not know you Valkrie but you seem to be nice person thanks!

        Don

        October 7, 2014 at 4:35 pm

        • Thank you Don
          I am sincere. As it is getting more rare to have that Love.
          I from my heart if hearts. Am only just me. I don’t understand why. I am thought of as many people. I think you can have only one email.

          Valkyrie

          October 7, 2014 at 5:12 pm

    • I believe that more husbands are controlled by their wives and as a result, it’s the husbands who lose their identities. Then the wives file for divorce, take the kids, the assets and a good chunk of the husbands’ income and the husbands lose their identities as fathers and providers. These men wind up with few friends as they gave them up during the marriage to please their former wives. They also wind up more controlled than ever – being told when they can pick up their kids, when they are supposed to bring back the kids, are threatened with jail if they miss even one child support payment and so on. That is the real tragedy. The kids, especially the boys, are the ones who lose a part of their identities because their fathers have been removed from their lives. Now they don’t have a strong male role model any more. It happens all of the time.

      Kirk

      October 7, 2014 at 6:13 pm

  11. this article is so dead on, I was happy and relieved that other people saw women’s action abusive, gold digging, and hostage takers. My two ex wives did exactly those things!!! and here I sit on 10 year old furniture, drive a 9 year old truck, and live in a 2 bedroom apartment that is low income all because the courts cited with them.I will die alone before remarriage!!!!!! I paid everything in the marriage, they ran up the debt!! and I got stuck with it all. They cheated and I was to blame for not giving them enough attention!! I can’t buy a house, i can’t even buy a new car, i can barely afford food for me and my daughter. I can’t afford to take care of my dental issues. Marriage is a bad loan for the man, he will never be done paying for a piece of ass until he dies…………..oops thats not true. She can claim ssn and retirement while he is dead and gone. DO NOT GET MARRIED!!!!!

    gary

    October 8, 2014 at 5:25 pm

    • I am so sorry! It has been a real hardship on good men in today’s society with cheating wives and the bad boys they go after! Why do women abuse all the good guys and go after the losers? Take care and I will think of you and your daughter! I have bad luck just like you!

      Don

      October 9, 2014 at 11:57 pm

  12. Wise men don’t marry, the advise here is fantastic. Luckily for me I have property wealth and happiness and am never short of girlfriends. They are always told I wont marry and the reasonable reasons why, the good ones have no problem with this because they are genuine and not after my money. The gold diggers leave as my screening process and honesty means they bail and look for some poor sucker who is not as wise as me.

    Richard

    October 12, 2014 at 11:41 pm

    • The wise men in Canada are MGTOW, but the female teachers in Canada tend to end up the ebophilia and pedophilia ways and enter the teaching profession to molest underaged students.

      Mary Gowans, Tania Pontbriand, Kim Gervais, Jennifer Mason..Those perverted female child molesting teachers are only the drop in the bucket about pervert teachers in the TDSB and other school boards across femiNazi Canada.

      Scooter

      October 15, 2014 at 12:56 pm

  13. It’s not just the fact that women molest children frequently. They also tend to kill them as well as those who are the most defenseless. Here is a story about a nurse in Italy who killed “annoying patients.”

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/uknews/nurse-arrested-over-killing-annoying-patients/ar-AA6LN8A

    “Italian police are investigating a nurse suspected of killing at least 38 of her patients because they or their relatives annoyed her.”

    “Pictures reportedly found on the nurse’s mobile phone showed her posing next to a patient who had died minutes earlier. In one of the images, she reportedly had her thumbs up.”

    “Another co-worker has made further allegations about the nurse, claiming that she gave strong laxatives to patients as her shift ended to make work more difficult for the nurses taking over.”

    So much for the kinder, gentler sex. So much for the nurturing earth mother.

    Kirk

    October 14, 2014 at 11:06 am

  14. Feminism is a sociopath movement….What happened to professional standards in the office profession? Men are wearing suit and ties and the women are dressing like whores to work… and what the hell? Female Canadian teachers are dressing like sluts too…aye no wonder the SlutWalk was born in Toronto.

    The decadence is getting worse. The other day a female teaching assistant was doing twerking as a side job how do these types of people get into the professional sector?

    Feminism has made women into whores, perverts and sociopaths. It isn’t a surprise that the Marxist school boards in Canada and the USA allow whores and perverts to corrupt innocent students. Those types of substandard teachers should have been barred from teaching and kept away from kids.

    Scooter

    October 14, 2014 at 4:34 pm

    • Isn’t it sad! Women will pay the ultimate price as men wake up and start realizing that they are better off being single and go to a prostitute to get sexual relief! Women will end up by themselves being used by men that are angry and all men will want is sex! Women will have their cats but maybe that is all they really want!

      Don

      October 14, 2014 at 8:29 pm

      • Don, the white knight social Marxist conservative government is trying to criminalize male clients of adult escort services. Even the Justice Minister called those adult men who pay for sex with adult women as “PERVERTS”.

        The female teachers in Canada are acting batshit crazy. They had a few incidents where male students were drugged up with Ritalin because the female teacher was offended that her cleavage and panty line was the topic of the class. Whore teachers.

        The Toronto District School Board harbors many of these crazy cat lady teachers who molest and groom under aged students. Any sane person can read about the news headlines about Mary Gowans and determine that the woman did indeed groom that 14 year old student for sex, but in Canada there are too many white knights and pussy beggars.

        The best solution is to take your offspring out of the public schools so these femiNazi child molesting female teachers can fuck off and leave innocent children alone.

        Scooter

        October 15, 2014 at 12:49 pm

        • If the law is so crooked there in Canada for men. Then they shouldnot marry. What strange laws. I’m sorry

          Valkyrie

          October 16, 2014 at 1:05 pm

        • What ever happened to LOVE? is there not any women out there that wants to have a wonderful loving take and give relationship with decent men? I am married but sometimes I think my wife would just be with me for sex and nothing else?! Women are very complicated now days! My wife got caught up in a romance scam and after 23 years together if the guy was not a scammer and a 40 year old guy who was really interested in her she would have left me and our 4 dogs and cat! My ex heard about it and felt bad so we met for lunch one day { NOTHING ELSE ] I asked her to bring her boyfriend and her response was no I am my own woman! My ex left me because I was a young jerk! Anyway you think you are going to grow old together but women now days would rather meet a younger guy or hang out with their friends that is unless they need something!

          Don

          October 17, 2014 at 12:40 am

          • Don. , that is sad. I know what you mean woman do seen worst It scares me. Not all woman of course but a lot
            I do hear more woman say marry a rich man. I feel it’s not you. You sound lije a sweet loyal loving good man.
            It seems like an intrigue thing. My dad and mom loved each it here through all ups and downs. Like you I cannot relate. To that kind of woman. I pray your hurt will pass. And you will have true live with a woman that deserves you

            Valkyrie

            October 17, 2014 at 12:54 am

            • Thanks for the compliment yes I am but I am getting hard towards women because of all the bullshit I have put up with!I am really very pissed off at my wife now because of shit she just told me tonight! She has put me through so much shit lately I could just walk out on her! I am burned out with her but stuck!

              Don

              October 20, 2014 at 6:59 pm

              • When I read this it makes me literally sick. That. When a man puts his heart of hearts and is slain
                I’m sorry. I have seen people turn around inside themselves spiritually and change. It seems like. Right when you think everything is good, out of the blue you get a new shock.
                There’s that saying. Would you rather fight with them. Or live without them.
                So hard and the energy. Health wise mentally all so exsausting. I pray for your happiness she will wake up and be kind and loving to you

                Valkyrie

                October 20, 2014 at 7:29 pm

        • You absolutely MUST HAVE bus loads of money and high status in the society before you even might think about approaching a Canadian female. That is why I left Canada and I don’t give two fucks about my country of birth because the Marxists have infested Canada with no end in sight.

          I might be a bit concerned about all of those female teachers sleeping with the younger men in school, but if that bitch Mary Gowans was portrayed as the cupcake and the male victim the oppressor of Mary Gowans, the parents should think about all the fuckery which goes on with these immoral teachers in Canada’s public schools.

          Left Canada and Happier

          October 17, 2014 at 2:20 pm

  15. I know this couple that has a daughter. She is in love with a man but he can’t provide. She dropped him and found a man that has all the material and money she desires. She is a chameleon; she lives through him by going back to college to earn a degree in his field. She hasn’t been employed in over 10 years and that was between school and first marriage. Now she collects alimony, child support, and 30% disability for her knee from the VA. Yes she did nasty guard for 6 months after high school. She is still on her ex-husband health care. She lives with her parents and does not pay for anything. She uses them as full time babysitters, while she walks in the door at 7 am before the child wakes up for school. She is a hoarder, rude, user, manipulator and isolates her parents. She gets jealous if they send or buy something for their son. I hope and pray that my daughter won’t turn out to be like her. females have what men want and take full advantage of their gender. When in reality after years of realizing that us men have what they want and need.

    gary

    October 14, 2014 at 6:46 pm

    • That’s very sad terrible to treat thst man like that. In Canada. If she goes to the VA, is she Military?

      Valkyrie

      October 14, 2014 at 9:19 pm

      • yes she goes to the va, no she served in the national guard for 1-3 yrs but hurt her knee. I only have seen her wear a knee brace once. i’m not judging but if you knew her….You would think twice about her knee being hurt.

        gary

        October 15, 2014 at 4:36 pm

        • That’s horrible. I. Am shocked.

          Valkyrie

          October 16, 2014 at 1:02 pm

          • Arvo Ojala?

            Brian

            October 16, 2014 at 4:05 pm

            • Brian What does ARVO OJALA have to do what I said. Just wondering. Why do you ask?

              Valkyrie

              October 16, 2014 at 10:01 pm

              • Brian. Yes. That is my father

                Valkyrie

                October 17, 2014 at 12:12 am

                • I had not believed you Val. That’s why I posted that with no context. I figured if you were truthful, you would pick up on it. If you were not, I was not going to give you any clues to help you lie.
                  I do remember “Gunsmoke” so I guess that dates me pretty far back.

                  Brian

                  October 17, 2014 at 5:02 am

                  • Brian. Very sweet. That you know my dad. He. Was a very good man But my dad did Silverado , three Amigos. Ect. We are doing a Gun Smoke. Remake. Ect. I worked with him on a few and still do. I don’t want to interfere with this site. With this. But kind of you to know I am really me. And am very concerned about what I’ve seen here. And men’s rights.

                    Valkyrie

                    October 17, 2014 at 10:45 am

  16. A 62-year-old woman married a 9-year-old boy.

    http://www.bollywoodshaadis.com/articles/a-9-year-old-boy-shocked-the-world-by-marrying-a-62-year-old-woman-twice-3220

    The article is entitled “A 9-year-old boy shocked the world by marrying a 62-year-old woman.” How can a 9-year-old boy marry a 62-year-old woman? He is a minor. He doesn’t know what’s going on. If a 62-year-old man married a 9-year-old girl, would they claim that the girl married the man?

    There is even a picture of the 62-year-old woman kissing the 9-year-old boy on the lips. By the way, the 62-year-old woman has a 67-year-old husband and 5 children.

    I wonder where all of the outrage is.

    Kirk

    October 14, 2014 at 11:11 pm

    • Wow holy fuck ! I must’ve mistake that for femiNazi Ontario, Canada.

      If you were a private investigator investigating the Toronto District School Board for female child molester teachers, you would make a TV series in competition with Chris Hansen to Catch a Predator.

      That article you shared is just a reflection of Canadian femiNazism. The feminist whores of Babylon target the weak, young and innocent just like those female teachers who sleep with their students and dress up like whores to attract their students. Sick and pathetic.

      Scooter

      October 15, 2014 at 12:53 pm

      • I didnot think that was permissible to marry a minor. What a horrible strange law

        Valkyrie

        October 16, 2014 at 1:04 pm

        • Yes and surprisingly, not that many people are protesting. Where are all of the feminists and the women’s studies majors to defend the oppression of this little boy?

          Kirk

          October 17, 2014 at 4:47 pm

          • Kirk. The reason I stayed here was because when I saw what was written I was shocked.
            I couldn’t in good conscience Just walk away. This must go national. So you can fight back. About men being treated so horribly. A young child. At 9??? What terrible child abuse. !!!
            What do you think or want done?
            What would help? Can I do anything from the US?

            Valkyrie

            October 17, 2014 at 5:20 pm

            • You are an actress. Perhaps you could call more attention to the situation. Raising awareness is extremely important.

              [Sexual violence against men, including rape, is under-reported, poorly addressed and has a severe impact on both men and their families, according to a presentation at the annual Sexual Violence and Research Initiative (SVRI), held in Cape Town, South Africa.

              A study by Mervyn Christian, of the US-based Johns Hopkins School of Nursing, using community focus groups and in-depth interviews with seven male rape survivors in Bukavu, in South Kivu Province, eastern Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), found that armed combatants had anally or orally raped men in a nearby forest, while at least two were raped in their homes in front of their families.]

              Kirk

              October 17, 2014 at 6:29 pm

              • This has made me cry! I mean really! Is it ok Kirk if I copy what you wrote to show a publicist Friend of mine? Is that ok?

                Valkyrie

                October 17, 2014 at 9:09 pm

                • I found it on the internet. If you want to go to the website and copy it, feel free. Thank you.

                  Kirk

                  October 17, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    • @ Kirk /…..The 9 year old boy can never consent to marriage………but in the feminist countries, if a 62 year old woman accuses a 9 year old boy of sexual assault, the pigs will no more than often label the 62 year old old pervert as the victim………………………..so i;m not surprised that female paedophilia is becoming a growing nusiance in today’s society….and it’s all part of a decadent agenda…….there is a reason why the public schools are forcing explicit subjects onto young students under the disguise of LGBTQ equality, tolerance, diversity and all of that crap…

      If you study history, decadence was common in ancient empires, until they declined morally, spiritually and economically…………

      Mark Isenwitz

      October 16, 2014 at 11:20 am

  17. I was watching Judge Lynn on Television divorce court. I could not believe!! how the Judge and audience reacted to the wife confessing!!! she was physically violent towards her husband. The audience freaking laugh and so did the Judge. The husband showed pictures of his wife’s violence. Then she cried and said my husband spends to much time away from home and they all turned against him. What the heck is going on in this country? IF the roles were reversed the husband would have been put in handcuffs and charge with domestic violence. This country has automatically chosen the female as victims even when they are clearly the abuser.

    gary

    October 16, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    • I’ve lived and worked in Toronto for 10 years and lived to see these ballbusting women controlling their husbands……………………….NEVER had any luck with dating Canadian politically correct fat and ugly whales of a woman with a Princess syndrome. As a result I gave up, left Canada for good and now I’m happily married in Eastern Europe!

      Let those deluded and immoral feminists rot in hell.

      Left Canada and Happier

      October 17, 2014 at 2:17 pm

      • ANY MAN THAT GETS MARRIED NOW DAYS IS CRAZY! MY WIFE JUST INFORMED ME THAT SHE IS TAKING CARE OF HER FRIENDS 17 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER WHILE THEY ARE AWAY! YES I SAID 17 HOW RIDICULOUS! DURING MY BIRTHDAY TO SO SCREW ME! I AM SO SICK OF HER I AM GOING TO GO TO MY EX’S CHANGE HER OIL AND CLEAN HER CAR AND CHECK EVERYTHING ELSE ON HER CAR FOR HER! SO SCREW MY WIFE!

        Don

        October 20, 2014 at 6:53 pm

        • Don.
          As for myself. A birthday is a very special day. I always make that a birthday week for someone
          That’s me though.
          I was babysitting 6 month olds. And 2. And three year olds at 12. For sometimes a weekend. Yes She should make your birthday a special day. If it was urgent and the girl younger perhaps. I’m sorry

          Valkyrie

          October 20, 2014 at 7:37 pm

          • I wish you somehow a beautiful birthday as I’m sure all your friends here do too

            Valkyrie

            October 20, 2014 at 7:39 pm

            • Thanks Valkyrie you truly are a great person with a heart!

              Don

              October 21, 2014 at 10:38 pm

              • Thank you don
                Did you have a somehow good birthday?

                Valkyrie

                October 22, 2014 at 7:57 am

                • No my birthday is the 2nd of november and I guess the reason I am so upset is these so called friends of ours are taking advantage of my wife by asking her to babysit their spoiled 17 year old grand daughter affecting our anniversary and my birthday while they take off for a month. I do not mind so much of my wife helping out but these people have tons of money and have offered nothing to my wife while she babysits their spoiled 17 year old! I just sent a text to the wife telling her that usually when a friend asks another friend to do something they pay them for their time especially when it affects their anniversary and husbands birthday! I am tired of people and all their selfish attitudes when they have tons of money!

                  Don

                  October 23, 2014 at 4:57 am

                • By the way Valkyrie thank you for asking I am up at 530 in the morning steaming! I am just tired of selfish rich people! Take care you are truly a good person!

                  Don

                  October 23, 2014 at 4:59 am

                  • Don
                    You seem like a caring sensitive person.
                    I don’t know how your birthday went.
                    But. I hope somehow you felt appreciated .
                    Val. Aka. Valkyrie

                    Valkyrie

                    October 23, 2014 at 11:12 pm

  18. Government needs to make it illegal for any male to be unmarried after 35. The public would support this and also a yearly tax penalty for not being married.

    You are inferior beings who are only good for material wealth/gain and sperm. Men must be punished for their arrogance and immature behavior. Women will not be denied what is rightfully theirs and neither should the government.

    After all, it’s for the children.

    FlamingMassachusettsLiberal

    October 17, 2014 at 4:30 pm

    • Government needs to make it illegal for women to divorce without the permission of men. The government should also impose a penalty tax on women who have children without being married. It should also require women on welfare to pay back all of the welfare benefits they received with interest. Women should also be required to pay for their own abortions. After all, college students have to pay back their student loans in the U.S. so why shouldn’t women who make bad decisions be required to pay back the taxpayers for funding their bad decisions?

      The public would support this because they are tired for paying for all of the bad decisions that women make.

      Women are inferior beings who are only good for catering to men. Women can’t create or build great societies on their own as they demand too much and are incapable of doing anything without the support of men and the government.

      Women must be punished for their arrogance, promiscuity, poor judgment, and especially their poor parenting skills. Single mothers are more likely to create criminals.

      Men will not be denied what is rightfully theirs and neither should the government or society in general.

      After all, it’s for the children.

      CoolNewJerseyConservative

      October 17, 2014 at 4:45 pm

    • @FlamingMassachusettsLiberal

      Sounds like you have a severe case of penis envy. Learn to love your vagina and then you will learn to love others.

      CruisingCaliforniaHippie

      October 17, 2014 at 6:32 pm

      • Wait…. Did I hear this right? This person feels men must be forced to be married. I’m sorry. But that is sooo wrong. That has to a joke And. Why. ? On what reasoning g would a man have to be married? I’m a woman and that’s. Nonsence. NO ONE SHOULD BE FORCED to be married. And by the sounds of it in Canada. I would run for the hills if I was a man

        Valkyrie

        October 17, 2014 at 9:04 pm

        • Thank you.

          Kirk

          October 17, 2014 at 9:10 pm

          • FML seems to be a fantasist, and I bet she looks like something that would gag a maggot. Believe me, not even the law could force a man to marry that!
            She exposes more about herself than she knows. It is not necessary to marry for women to exploit men, under force of law. We have that now. Men pay all the taxes, women get all the benefits. Throwing that marry by 35 in there exposes FML as desperately lonely. After all, the sisters don’t need men right? They are strong, we are inferior, yada, yada, yada. Uh-huh. Secretly, she is dying for a d__k..
            One thought does come to mind. Now that marriage is a right, at least for gays, although no one else, all a guy has to do is marry another guy to get out of the trap FML wants to set for men. You don’t even have to be gay. Just do it for convenience.
            Its only a matter of time before heteros start taking advantage of this, I could marry some unemployed guy, who would watch the kids, maintain the house. We could adopt kids, because as presumed gays we are more than equal under the law, and would get a pass from the intense scrutiny a single male adopter would receive. Then we get tax breaks etc,
            We could also copy the illegal alien scam. Move to an illegal alien magnet state, where real citizens are second class to illegals. Use a fake name, get a drivers license, and suck up the huge welfare benefits and free health care, while paying no taxes.
            We have sown the seeds of our own destruction. The party of the left has been stealing from the productive to buy the votes of the unproductive for decades. It will only get worse. What FML suggests seems outrageous, but its no different than what we are doing now.

            Brian

            October 18, 2014 at 12:13 pm

            • Brian, you have something there as usual. While in general, feminists have supported gay marriage, an increasing minority of them are becoming afraid of it.

              One feminist argument against gay marriage is that there tends to be more gay men than lesbians so gay men will reap far more than lesbians will of the benefits of marriage. These feminists also argue that straight men will be tempted to marry each other in order to avoid their responsibilities to women. They are also against surrogacy because men will simply hire women to carry their children rather than marry or live with women. They feel that women will miss out on alimony, child support and all of the other benefits that marriage bestows on women. Furthermore, they argue that gay marriage will simply reduce women to vessels of lust and nothing more.

              Funny, when surrogacy, egg donorship and gay marriage came out, most feminists supported it. Why? Because they believed that it gave women an advantage over straight men (whom they refer to as the evil patriarchy). They arrogantly proclaimed that women don’t need men any more.

              But now that more and more men are refusing to marry women and that more men (both gay and straight) are becoming single fathers by choice (through surrogacy and adoption), feminists are becoming more threatened. They are starting to realize that perhaps men don’t really need women. Men can simply hire women for household chores, sex and procreation. This means that women won’t get the benefits of alimony, welfare and child support, which they currently enjoy to excess.

              I have heard these arguments over the years and didn’t really think about them at the time. But in light of what is happening, they are becoming more relevant.

              And whose fault is that? That’s right, the feminists. Those that arrogantly proclaim that they don’t need others often find that no one needs them.

              Kirk

              October 18, 2014 at 7:22 pm

    • I’m going to take FML as a spoof that proves the point. As ridiculous as his statement appears, that’s *exactly* how entitlement minded women think, and how liberals think in general when it comes to assigning obligations to people who work and take care of themselves, and enable another class of people to become entitled to the work of others.

      What he’s said here isn’t too different from what we have now. Single people, largely working men, are taxed to pay for the stupid, selfish, wreckless decisions of others, mostly (deliberately) single moms.

      We’ll stop having a problem when we stop rewarding women for being helpless, selfish and stupid. I’m not saying that we should punish them, but we should stop allowing women to hijack the work of others for making their situation worse.

      Since the 1970’s, no woman has been compelled to carry a baby to term, married or otherwise. Women have all of the decision making when it comes to reproduction – therefore, women should bear all of the unilateral responsibility for their unilateral decisions in this regard, *especially* in regards to single mothers and women who divorce without cause. I can respect that a husband bears some responsibility to support his children, but it should be support that he provides *directly* to his children, not a check to the mom for whatever she damn well pleases – that process has invited abuse, by both mom and the government eager to get it’s “cut” of the transaction.

      Wayne

      October 18, 2014 at 10:43 am

      • MGTOWs must take every pro-feminist comment seriously whether it looks like a genuine psychopathic feminist or a troll.

        By the way, the female accomplice of child rapist and child killer Paul Bernardo, Karla Holmoka or Renee Bordelais. Fucking scum slut got a conditional sentence for helping Bernardo kidnap, rape and murder two young teen girls. Talk about Karla Holmoka and the PUSSY PASS.

        Read more at the article: Karla Homolka is back in Quebec, Magnotta trial hears

        michele-mandel
        By Michele Mandel, Toronto Sun ”

        There might be bets placed if Karla Holmoka will become a teacher in Canada. After all, child rapist teachers have it easy in Canada.

        And the feminists will defend Karla Holmoka for her crimes against two kids. Fucking scum feminists.

        Craig Ben

        October 18, 2014 at 3:17 pm

  19. This article is right on the money.

    Mike

    October 18, 2014 at 2:50 pm

  20. Though the teacher pedophiles faced significant opposition from the Canadian parents,
    The Toronto District School Board is accused of defending and assisting predator teachers.

    The identity of scores of bad teachers and dozens more each year is kept a secret by the nepotists
    in the Toronto District School Board because organized child molesters have more authority in the school board.

    The innovator of the controversial Sex-Ed Program, pervert Benjamin Levine, was accused of luring a preteen girl
    for the purposes of sexual entrapment ( See: Ben Levin letter raises questions – Toronto Sun).

    When we think of sexual predators, the image that springs to mind is usually a man such as Paul Bernardo.

    However, there are many recorded cases of female sex predators in the Toronto District School Board
    because they tend to collude with their female administrators in preventing any report of the female predator teacher.

    Extraordinarily, in the vast majority of cases involving female sexual abuse (of both boys and girls),

    the female teacher of the Toronto District School Board turns out to be involved in that abuse, whether offending alone
    or colluding with other teachers.

    Female sex offenders research is limited, though Canadian statistics show an alarmingly high rate of sexual abuse by women
    yet the Toronto District School Board, Elementary Federation of Teachers and Ontario Federation of Teachers deny that predator
    female teachers can molest children because the Canadian Marxists view the female sex offender as the victim.

    It is no surprise that Karla Homolka received a 10 year prison sentence for her accomplice with Paul Bernardo
    in the horrific murder of three adolescent girls in the 1990s. Upper class female privilege in Canada is an astounding yet disturbing
    trend in Canada. Is it any surprise why Mary Gowans was a free woman despite luring a student to her home, grooming with text messages and gifts, and
    sending derogatory text messages to the student.

    The Toronto District School Board school is the last place a parent would send their child to school, because the pedophiles and
    sex offenders are the upper class of teachers.

    Canadian Parents

    October 19, 2014 at 8:06 am

    • Jim Black, a whistleblower who spoke out against the reinstatement of sexual offenders would agree!

      Lee

      October 20, 2014 at 4:02 am

  21. There are a growing number of child predators around on a daily basis in the Toronto District School Board in Canada.
    So, is it possible to spot a child predator teacher? Yes. But the TDSB cronies will deny the accusations and defend the pedophile.

    Many female sex offender teachers in the TDSB often offend where they won’t get caught — when they have misdirected people’s attention
    Often married or in relationships such as Mary Gowans and Tania Pontbriand.

    Female sex offenders are often women teachers who become sexual predators to fulfill their own needs such as when Kim Gervais
    was wearing sexualized clothing to entrap 12 year old boys into illegal oral sex at her home.

    Female teachers in Canadian society have been portrayed as victims, but somewhere within their victimisation they have learned that to abuse children gave teachers like Mary Gowans, Tania Pontbriand, Nathalie Champagne, Jennifer Mason and Kim Gervais a sense of power, control, agency, and therefore they use the abuse of children to gain those things.

    It was reported that top management of the Toronto District School Board wrote letters to court seeking leniency for ‘child predator’ teacher Mary Gowans after phone records revealed that Mary Gowans exchanged sexually charged messages to a 14 year old student.

    It shows that the Toronto District School Board defends the deviant teachers who use the teaching profession to groom, molest and sexually abuse students, which is despicable and should be condemned and seek a remedy. The TDSB needs to change their ways and desist from supporting predator teachers.

    Anonymous

    October 20, 2014 at 12:33 pm

    • Why is it after your post about the Toronto school board that a mass rubbish poster spammer tried to D-Dos the message board? What kind of commie country is Canada?

      Egersmith Yukerverg

      October 21, 2014 at 2:22 pm

  22. Some of us are not on strike. Even if things improved we still would not opt for it. Its not a strike if you quit.

    Big Mobe (@Big_Mobe)

    October 22, 2014 at 6:07 pm

  23. Why the hell are child molester public school teachers trying to shut down this forum?

    Kre Well

    October 23, 2014 at 4:26 pm

    • How can anyone shut down this forum?
      This is a very important place for men to speak To speak openly the truth .
      I pray none if these people described can harm this forum

      Valkyrie

      October 23, 2014 at 11:17 pm

    • Bcoz the piddle mafia wants to use the state to control children.

      Throughout most of history schooling was done with private tutors or by the parents. Some small schools were available and their fees were cheap.

      Beginning in the 1960s with the sexual revolution, feminism, and most recently schools overstepping boundaries by teaching children about same-sex marriage and the government-mandated view of homosexuality, severe bullying, and an increasing amount of decadence such as teachers having sex with their students. Modern public schools aren’t good if the parent wants respectable children and grandchildren.

      DON’T MARRY abolishes the status quo for these government pidolefiles who use the state to act on their sick impulses.

      Mayb its why the pidolefile teachers are doing their worst on this mgtow blog.

      Walter Sunberg

      October 25, 2014 at 5:58 pm

  24. Censorship may be direct or it may be indirect, in which case it is called soft censorship.

    The Toronto District School Board sometimes engages in both direct and indirect censorship
    over matters of fraud, teacher incompetence and teacher perpetrated child abuse.

    Orwellian Political correctness is another form of censorship called self-censorship.

    Yet like censorship, self-censorship denies citizens their right to be informed; self-censorship denies journalists their right to press freedom.
    If criticizing a white female predator teacher is labelled as misogyny, then paedophiles and child exploiters such as Ben Levin will use the same
    argument that he is a victim of a hate crime when the truth is all institutionalized child abuse are CRIMES against children.

    The Supreme Court repeatedly has found that such attempts to censor the media are presumed unconstitutional, but the role of feminism
    in Canada creates a justice system where the rights of female teacher overturns the rights of children. An example is the court case involving
    Mary Gowans and a former student who claimed she groomed him. Despite the evidence, the TDSB, teachers unions and the media
    portrayed Mary Gowans as a victim of a male hate crime labelled as misogyny. Sickening, because the pedophiles are using political
    correctness and feminism to defend their treacherous sex crimes.

    China is ramping up its internet censorship program, as pro-democracy protests sweep Hong Kong.

    BUT will China allow paedophile teachers to violate children? Of course not. Only the Canadian school board Toronto District School Board
    would condone such horrible teacher misconduct and censor its critics worse than Communist Red China.

    1st amendment journalism

    October 25, 2014 at 10:06 am

  25. “Here are some of the people licensed in Ontario to teach your children.

    A teacher who disciplined students by warning they would “spend time with a pedophile” and if the behaviour got worse it “would be without vaseline.”

    A high school teacher whose female students said he called them “sluts,” “pole dancers,” “whore” and commented that tongue studs were for “oral sex.”

    A teacher who shut Grade 8 students in a storage cupboard to discipline them.

    A teacher who repeatedly took photos of Grade 8 girls with his cellphone.

    A drunk teacher who sexually assaulted a store clerk.

    A teacher who stole money students deposited with her for school trips to Europe.

    A teacher who scared female Grade 6 students by drawing pictures depicting one girl’s death and tacking them to her dormitory window during a three-day outdoor education trip.

    A principal and vice-principal who did not report a child’s allegations of sexual abuse, as required by law.

    A gym teacher who frequently came late to school, smelled of booze and fell asleep in class.

    The identity of scores of bad teachers and dozens more each year is kept secret by the profession’s watchdog — the Ontario College of Teachers.

    That’s because the watchdog — a self-regulatory body — granted them anonymity after the teacher pleaded guilty or “no contest” to certain allegations. Typically, the teachers received a reprimand or short suspension.

    In its investigation, the Star also found teachers who help students cheat on provincial EQAO tests; a teacher who ridiculed students’ religious beliefs; a teacher who repeatedly hit or manhandled students; a teacher who flirted with a Grade 7 girl, sending her what a judge ruled (though the teacher was acquitted of sexual assault and exploitation charges) were “sexually charged” text messages including “lots of love” and “can’t stop thinking about you, I didn’t want you to leave today.”

    In some cases, a summary is published on the watchdog’s website and in its quarterly newsletter, without the teacher’s name or school. Some of the cases — particularly those dealing with incompetence — are never published at all.

    Parents, these teachers could be in your school.

    The Star has found that three years ago the backlogged Ontario College of Teachers began making more and more of these secret deals. These are not the worst of the worst — cases where a teacher was convicted of a criminal sexual assault on a student — but they are still serious abuses of trust. The Star reports on the more serious cases Saturday and the teaching profession’s inability to reduce the attacks 12 years after retired judge Sydney Robins probed that problem.

    When it comes to keeping secret the names of some offenders, College Registrar Michael Salvatori said it is done if the teacher had a “momentary lapse of judgment.” Salvatori said that they make the decision in “the public interest.” Salvatori said College rules prevented him from commenting on any of the cases.”

    Source from Toronto Star. No copyright infringement intended.

    Tom

    October 25, 2014 at 10:12 am

  26. Somebody has too much caffeine in their diet.

    Brian

    October 20, 2014 at 4:23 pm

  27. What’s this about. Who’s doing that
    Tho good comment Brian

    Valkyrie

    October 20, 2014 at 11:37 pm

  28. it must be some Canadian paedophile teacher or a feminist because after Anonymous’s post the rubbish spammer tried to shut down the comments section.

    Egersmith Yukerverg

    October 21, 2014 at 2:24 pm

  29. Brian was referring to some mass spam troll whose posts were removed.

    The mass posting of rubbish started after Anonymous post about the Canadian school board.

    Canada is rightfully a commie cesspool.

    Egersmith Yukerverg

    October 21, 2014 at 2:21 pm

  30. I was not aware it was a cyber attack. I thought someone’s PC had frozen and they kept hitting Send. Seems we have found a sensitive spot on the TDSB. For all the defense of molesting we saw here, their consciences are not so dead that they do not fear the law. If it gets enough attention, and media interest, they are doomed.
    Possibly, one of the posters telling us about how institutionalized it is, is an insider who knows, and they are in fear.
    Good. Very good.

    Brian

    October 21, 2014 at 3:07 pm

  31. Are referring to all those dots. Is everything Okay then?

    Valkyrie

    October 21, 2014 at 5:02 pm

  32. The pay raises of these nebulous teachers are obscenely wealthy, but when other Canadians spend their paychecks they are finding that they don’t stretch as far as they once did. The cost of living continues to rise at a much faster pace than wages are rising, and this is especially true when it comes to the price of food.

    The Canadian school boards such as the TDSB will censor anyone who posts critical remarks about the paedophile teachers in the schools. Nobody wants to lose their comfy overpaid government job in socialist Canada would they?

    Alex

    October 24, 2014 at 7:35 pm

  33. This is really horrible. I have send information to a national dept. Television in Los Angeles to see if they can get assistance for men’s rights in Canada. I’m trying

    Valkyrie

    October 21, 2014 at 5:08 pm

  34. I am so overwhelmed by all this I feel like taking a trip to canada with a news station to get these horrible perverts and child molesters in the act.

    Valkyrie

    October 24, 2014 at 9:08 pm

  35. Good luck. The teachers unions have paid out most of the Canadian journalists that it would take a miracle to put the pedophile teachers of the TDSB into the media spotlight.

    The recent news about pedophile teachers are:
    Bad teachers: Ontario’s secret list | Toronto Star
    http://www.thestar.com/…/bad_teachers_ontarios_secret_list.html

    But the article does not consider that female child predators are a growing trend in the TDSB and other school boards in Canada.

    Tom

    October 25, 2014 at 10:09 am


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